# 24: Season 4: Episode 9 (3:00pm - 4:00pm) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 15, 2005, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-9-3-00pm-4-00pm/290149 "2005-02-15T04:00:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2005, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-9-3-00pm-4-00pm/290149/61 "2005-02-15T23:46:27Z")
> [@Monstre](#): > > I almost forgot to mention. > > I could be mistaken, but I think last night’s episode was a landmark moment in “24 Cell Phone History”. > > It’s the first time that I recall seeing somebody actually **not** having a perfect cell phone signal. Jack, leaving the hotel room, talking to Driscoll on the cell, and he says, “Hang on, Erin, I can barely hear you”. Then the signal clears up when he gets outside. :eek: > > Before, the cell phones have always worked perfectly even in the middle of the desert. Well, I think there is an exception being when some absolutely vital information needs to be communicated then there is a distinct possibility of the coverage going out. ---
**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2005, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-9-3-00pm-4-00pm/290149/62 "2005-02-16T00:12:54Z")
> [@Monstre](#): > > I almost forgot to mention. > > I could be mistaken, but I think last night’s episode was a landmark moment in “24 Cell Phone History”. > > It’s the first time that I recall seeing somebody actually **not** having a perfect cell phone signal. Jack, leaving the hotel room, talking to Driscoll on the cell, and he says, “Hang on, Erin, I can barely hear you”. Then the signal clears up when he gets outside. :eek: > > Before, the cell phones have always worked perfectly even in the middle of the desert. I remember at least one previous occasion with a bad cell phone signal: In season 3: When Michelle had been kidnapped, but briefly escaped from Saunders’s goons, she tried to call Chloe, but the connection was bad. So Chloe said, in her usual charming style, “I can’t hear what you’re saying, and I’m really busy right now,” and hung up. Ed ---
**Author:** ![RancidYakButterTeaParty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/53a042/32.png) [@RancidYakButterTeaParty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RancidYakButterTeaParty)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2005, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-9-3-00pm-4-00pm/290149/63 "2005-02-16T00:23:21Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Yeah, that was interesting. I thought something was going to happen, but it turned out he was just going outside for the signal. What a concept. > > There was a little moment in this episode that I really liked: Jack washing his face and looking at himself in the mirror before talking to TerrorMom. He was making her wait before questioning, which made sense, but it was also just kind of a nice character moment. Jack having a second to himself, not driving anywhere or being shot at or even yelling at anyone. And we saw the Salazar tattoo, which was another reminder of how much he’s given on the job. That and Tony going along with Jack in this episode are among my favorite _24_ moments in two seasons of watching, up there (though not ahead) with Jack shooting Nina. Great call. I was very into this moment, then my wife yells out “what is he waiting for?!”. Didn’t think about the symbolism of the Salazar tatoo, but it makes sense. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2005, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-9-3-00pm-4-00pm/290149/64 "2005-02-16T00:59:14Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > There was a little moment in this episode that I really liked: Jack washing his face and looking at himself in the mirror before talking to TerrorMom. He was making her wait before questioning, which made sense, but it was also just kind of a nice character moment. Jack having a second to himself, not driving anywhere or being shot at or even yelling at anyone. And we saw the Salazar tattoo, which was another reminder of how much he’s given on the job. Yep, I thought the same thing-- excellent dramatic effect. I was also thinking that he probably wanted terrormom to see the tattoos. The one thing I thought odd, though, was that no one was really guarding terrormom as they drove into the hospital. IIRC, she was in Tony’s vehicle, but it looked like she could’ve ducked out pretty easily. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2005, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-9-3-00pm-4-00pm/290149/65 "2005-02-16T04:03:11Z")
> [@John Mace](#): > > Yep, I thought the same thing-- excellent dramatic effect. I was also thinking that he probably wanted terrormom to see the tattoos. To what end? Given the modern Islamic attitude toward tattooing, it could only serve as a reminder that he was a dirty infidel. (Not that she needed any such reminder.) It seemed like he was already planning on using the understanding “good cop” route to get her to open up as far as possible. ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2005, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-9-3-00pm-4-00pm/290149/66 "2005-02-16T04:07:09Z")
I liked Jack shooting the tire of the escaping car. That isn’t done enough in TV/ Movies IMHO. Ya, Comic Book Guy should have worried about his mother hours ago. If this wer Star Trek, they could pump the basement full of instant sleeping gas and retrieve the kid. Brian ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2005, 9:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-9-3-00pm-4-00pm/290149/67 "2005-02-16T09:27:01Z")
> [@N9IWP](#): > > If this wer Star Trek, they could pump the basement full of instant sleeping gas and retrieve the kid. That gives me an idea for either the best, or the worst, crossover ever. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/45deac/32.png) [@Evil\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_One)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2005, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-9-3-00pm-4-00pm/290149/68 "2005-02-16T20:28:01Z")
“Dammit, Jack! I’m a doctor, not a torture expert!” ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2005, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-9-3-00pm-4-00pm/290149/69 "2005-02-17T06:59:41Z")
> [@suranyi](#): > > I remember at least one previous occasion with a bad cell phone signal: > > In season 3: When Michelle had been kidnapped, but briefly escaped from Saunders’s goons, she tried to call Chloe, but the connection was bad. So Chloe said, in her usual charming style, “I can’t hear what you’re saying, and I’m really busy right now,” and hung up. Yep – you’re right. I do remember (now that you mentioned it) Chloe hanging up with that remark. > [@](#): > > _MaxTheVool_ > That gives me an idea for either the best, or the worst, crossover ever. If you say “Wesley Crusher, CTU Agent”, you’re a dead man. Oh crap… _I_ just said it! :eek: 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2005, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-9-3-00pm-4-00pm/290149/70 "2005-02-17T08:04:24Z")
> [@Evil One](#): > > “Dammit, Jack! I’m a doctor, not a torture expert!” That’s funny-- I instantly thought of McCoy when Chase went over to the freshly-sniped prisoner and pronounced “He’s dead, Jack.” That’s normal, right? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2005, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-9-3-00pm-4-00pm/290149/71 "2005-02-17T13:05:06Z")
> [@Larry Mudd](#): > > “He’s dead, Jack.” Oh, how I wish Kirk had said “Dammit!” 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2005, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-9-3-00pm-4-00pm/290149/72 "2005-02-17T13:58:39Z")
> [@Larry Mudd](#): > > That’s funny-- I instantly thought of McCoy when Chase went over to the freshly-sniped prisoner and pronounced “He’s dead, Jack.” > > That’s normal, right? Not Chase. Chase is the irritating lumpy-headed chump who wanted to be Jack Bauer ][, and instead got tortured, and, eventually, had his hand chopped off. I’m quite certain that while swinging the axe Jack was thinking, “There can be only one Jack Bauer, biatch.” Meanwhile, Tony is the super-cool dude who made one bad decision and got screwed for it. But at least it got him his soul patch back. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2005, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-9-3-00pm-4-00pm/290149/73 "2005-02-17T17:07:11Z")
Whoops. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2005, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-9-3-00pm-4-00pm/290149/74 "2005-02-17T23:00:29Z")
Who thinks Tony is going to die redeeming himself? ---
**Author:** ![BobT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e8cbc/32.png) [@BobT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobT)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2005, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-9-3-00pm-4-00pm/290149/75 "2005-02-18T03:01:03Z")
That was a discussion topic last week. I think it will just end up that Tony’s bartender-girlfriend will be the real mastermind of the whole plot, but its real aim is to just hunt down Michelle and kill her so she can have Tony all to herself! ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2005, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-9-3-00pm-4-00pm/290149/76 "2005-02-18T06:01:18Z")
> [@Just1Lurk](#): > > The stand-out moment for me was when Terrordad told Terrorsister-in-law, “You disgust me.” I mean, this guy is looking for his wife and son SO HE CAN KILL THEM but SIL’s adultery - \*that’s \* disgusting. Why didn’t he just stone her? Exactly. The moment didn’t stand out for me because it perfectly illustrated the Islamo-fascist-terrorist mind-set: men can rove around and kill perfectly innocent people, but if a woman screws around, stone her in the public square. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2005, 9:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-9-3-00pm-4-00pm/290149/77 "2005-02-18T09:38:13Z")
> [@Mr. Blue Sky](#): > > Who thinks Tony is going to die redeeming himself? Yeah, I’ve thought so since we learned his back story. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2005, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-9-3-00pm-4-00pm/290149/78 "2005-02-18T16:43:14Z")
> [@Larry Mudd](#): > > Every time I see [Terrormom](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0013037/), the first thing I think of (after “_Smokin!_”, of course,) is how eerily she resembles [Sylvia Sidney](http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/PersonDetail/personid-13958). > > (Well, Sylvia Sidney c She reminds me of [Melina Mercouri](http://www.style.com/slideshows/standalone/beauty/icon/081104ICON/07f.jpg) instead. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episode-9-3-00pm-4-00pm/290149.md?page=3)