# 24: Season 4: Episodes 23-24 (5:00am - 7:00am) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 23, 2005, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episodes-23-24-5-00am-7-00am/305139 "2005-05-23T19:06:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episodes-23-24-5-00am-7-00am/305139/61 "2005-05-24T02:15:23Z")
Spoilers from Season 5, 7:01AM: [spoiler]Jack whizzes on the railroad tracks. And whizzes. And whizzes. And whizzes. And whizzes. And whizzes. 7:08AM: Jack stops in his tracks, looks back at Tony. “Damn, was that a 7-11 I saw back there? I need a beef jerky and a slushy.” 7:26AM: Jack pays for his beef jerky, slushy, ding dongs, peanuts, and Hustler magazine. He then drops to the floor and dies. “Damn”, he says, in his last breath. “I’ve been bleeding to death from that hand wound from 40 minutes ago. Oh yeah, and that self-inflicted gut wound from FREAKIN’ LATE FEBRUARY!” 7:31AM: Buster tries to give Jack a shoulder massage. Ukulele music ends. Tick tock, tick tock, tick tock, tick tock, tick tock.[/spoiler] ---
**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episodes-23-24-5-00am-7-00am/305139/62 "2005-05-24T02:16:00Z")
Lamest. Ending. Ever. They get us all hot and bothered about a nuke missile and then its destruction is treated as barely an afterthought? Please. The ending smacked of “Keifer isn’t contracted for another season…and he hasn’t decided yet.” ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episodes-23-24-5-00am-7-00am/305139/63 "2005-05-24T02:19:26Z")
> [@Stephe96](#): > > They get us all hot and bothered about a nuke missile and then its destruction is treated as barely an afterthought? Please. The same thing happened in Season 2 when the nuke blew up over the desert. > [@](#): > > The ending smacked of “Keifer isn’t contracted for another season…and he hasn’t decided yet.” [Keifer on board for season 5](http://www.24spoilers.tvheaven.com/) ---
**Author:** ![Greywolf73](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d9b06d/32.png) [@Greywolf73](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greywolf73)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episodes-23-24-5-00am-7-00am/305139/64 "2005-05-24T02:23:11Z")
Okay, I think the writers almost redeemed themselves for the rest of this season but they still didn’t answer the one question that I know is on everyone’s mind…okay, maybe just mine: What happened to Berhooz??? ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episodes-23-24-5-00am-7-00am/305139/65 "2005-05-24T02:23:42Z")
Maybe Jack’s heading back down to the Salazar ranch. Pick up the pieces and start up his own drug empire. Find himself another Mexican babe. Maybe CLOWdia had a sister. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episodes-23-24-5-00am-7-00am/305139/66 "2005-05-24T02:29:03Z")
> [@Greywolf73](#): > > Okay, I think the writers almost redeemed themselves for the rest of this season but they still didn’t answer the one question that I know is on everyone’s mind…okay, maybe just mine: > > What happened to Berhooz??? Yeah, where’s the B’hver? Curtis is going to be kicking himself in few minutes, now that the action has died down. “Crap! I promised that kid we’d follow them and keep him safe!” And I wonder if the Chinese security guy is really going to let Agent Ratfink go? If so, I have a feeling he won’t be winning the CTU Employee of the Year award. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episodes-23-24-5-00am-7-00am/305139/67 "2005-05-24T02:33:08Z")
Oh, and anybody notice how Logan used the phrase “MY administration”…? Um. Yeah… when the REAL president gets out of the hospital, you’ll just go back to being his bitch. So chill out, Veep Boy. “Thank you David for all your help. But now it’s time for you to leave, while I take credit for your work…” ---
**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episodes-23-24-5-00am-7-00am/305139/68 "2005-05-24T02:34:38Z")
[Keifer on board for season 5](http://www.24spoilers.tvheaven.com/) [/QUOTE] OK, so Jack is back for next season. Still, how much better would it have been to have Jack’s death be the cliffhanger until next season? Anything would’ve been better than the actual ending tonight. I thought it was pretty much a letdown. They should’ve killed off _somebody_ important! ---
**Author:** ![PigBoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/97f17d/32.png) [@PigBoy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PigBoy)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episodes-23-24-5-00am-7-00am/305139/69 "2005-05-24T02:35:23Z")
> [@Monstre](#): > > Yeah, where’s the B’hver? > > Curtis is going to be kicking himself in few minutes, now that the action has died down. “Crap! I promised that kid we’d follow them and keep him safe!” My guess is that he is alone in a room somewhere, and in that room is a single sheet of paper. On that paper are written the words Jack whispered to Nina in Season 2 that seemed to frighten her so much. That one still bugs me. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episodes-23-24-5-00am-7-00am/305139/70 "2005-05-24T02:37:32Z")
> [@Monstre](#): > > “Thank you David for all your help. But now it’s time for you to leave, while I take credit for your work…” First, it’s “The death of millions of people will on your head.” Then it’s “Thanks for not making my brief, but suckass reign as the prez one for the record books.” Flip-flop much? ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Cheatem\_Undhow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/13edae/32.png) [@Dewey\_Cheatem\_Undhow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Cheatem_Undhow)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episodes-23-24-5-00am-7-00am/305139/71 "2005-05-24T02:54:47Z")
Anyone think Jack, Tony, Michelle and Chloe will ride around next season in a black van righting wrongs on behalf of the defenseless? “In 2005, Agent Jack Bauer was charged with a crime by a Chinese tribunal that he, uh, did in fact commit. He promptly escaped from a CTU holding cell into the Los Angeles underground. If you have a problem, and if you can find him, maybe you can hire…The JB Team.” ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episodes-23-24-5-00am-7-00am/305139/72 "2005-05-24T03:37:43Z")
> [@Dewey Cheatem Undhow](#): > > Anyone think Jack, Tony, Michelle and Chloe will ride around next season in a black van righting wrongs on behalf of the defenseless? > > “In 2005, Agent Jack Bauer was charged with a crime by a Chinese tribunal that he, uh, did in fact commit. He promptly escaped from a CTU holding cell into the Los Angeles underground. If you have a problem, and if you can find him, maybe you can hire…The JB Team.” [Sane World] Agent Ratfink: His name is…Jack Bauer! Chinese Agent: Jack Bauer? Oh, shit. We don’t want any of THAT. You’re free to go. Tell Mr. Bauer we’re sorry for anything we, China, or any of our immigrants to your country have ever done. Just don’t tell him you ever saw me. [/Sane World] I mean, hell, doesn’t Jack have a kill total higher than most armies? -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episodes-23-24-5-00am-7-00am/305139/73 "2005-05-24T03:40:56Z")
> [@Dewey Cheatem Undhow](#): > > Anyone think Jack, Tony, Michelle and Chloe will ride around next season in a black van righting wrongs on behalf of the defenseless? And don’t forget Kim’s ex-boyfriend with no legs from season 2, Scruffy-Doo! “Now, let’s find out who Marwan **really** is!” _tugs mask_ “OLD MAN WITHERS!!!” “And I would have gotten away with it, too, if it weren’t for you meddling CTU agents!” ---
**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episodes-23-24-5-00am-7-00am/305139/74 "2005-05-24T03:47:17Z")
I was waiting for Paul to unzip that black bag he was lying in, tap Audrey on the shoulder and say “It was all a set up, I’m still alive.” 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Bob55](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Bob55](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bob55)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episodes-23-24-5-00am-7-00am/305139/75 "2005-05-24T04:06:02Z")
> [@Monstre](#): > > Maybe Jack’s heading back down to the Salazar ranch. Pick up the pieces and start up his own drug empire. Find himself another Mexican babe. Maybe CLOWdia had a sister. My first thoughts too when they told him to head for the border 😃 ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episodes-23-24-5-00am-7-00am/305139/76 "2005-05-24T05:08:45Z")
Everything that happened tonight was predictable beyond belief. I was sitting with a group of friends watching this, and we called out every “twist”. And no way the Chinese are going to buy the idea that Jack is dead. They’ll want to see the body. They should have had Chloe picking up Jack as he walked down the rr tracks. ---
**Author:** ![shelbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@shelbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shelbo)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episodes-23-24-5-00am-7-00am/305139/77 "2005-05-24T05:51:21Z")
> [@bouv](#): > > Oh, and I didn’t notice the lack of rain, but I did notice that the cell conversation had the car explosion on it…how could it, since the instant it expleded the cell would be gone and no signal to transmit an explosion? But the lack of rain works equally well. 🙂 And no car door closing! By the way, and I haven’t read the thread yet, having just finished watching, Paris Hilton is smoking hot. Who knew!? ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episodes-23-24-5-00am-7-00am/305139/78 "2005-05-24T05:55:59Z")
(Haven’t read the thread yet, so please forgive me.) Holy crap. First time I have seen an entire season. What a finale. Favorite moments: Hot Terrorist Babe tasers Tony just to keep him occupied. HTB has a thigh-mounted holster. HTB…, well, anything HTB does. The men’s locer room apparently has a glass wall. :eek: :eek: :eek: President Allstate: “Jack, I have bad news. President Wussy is going to turn you over to the Chinese in 10 minutes.” Jack: “I understand.” … Jack: “Chloe, I have a few minutes to spare, and some beer in my locker. Would you like to rehash the day’s events in the commissary?” Chloe: “Sure! I just have to clear my buffers!” :rolleyes: “(He noticed me! He noticed me!)” ---
**Author:** ![shelbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@shelbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shelbo)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episodes-23-24-5-00am-7-00am/305139/79 "2005-05-24T06:05:31Z")
> [@emacknight](#): > > This episode is pretty cool, and has mostly made up for a lot of crap. But I just don’t get Chinese story line. Is the Chinese Government THAT unreasonable that the POUS couldn’t say, “look, Yun, I’ve had a rough day, I’m not even the real President. I’m not sure if you’ve heard or not, but we’re kind of under a massive terrorist attack, and at the moment a nuclear warhead is less than 1.5 hours from landing in one of our largest city. We’ve already had a train explode, Air Force 1 was shot down, a power plant went critical, and our secretary of defence was taken hostage. Do you think you could cut us just a _little_ slack?” Or howbout, “your embassay was holding a Chinese national that was directly involved in the theft of a nuclear warhead and the launch of a missile carrying that warhead against the second largest city in the United States. Rather than turning him over, you protected him in your embassay. Had that warhead impacted on its target, the United States would have held China directly responsible for the lives that would have been lost. Jack Bauer _was_ at your embassay. He did take the man you were protecting. His actions almost single handedly stopped the missile. He is a national hero of the highest rank. He is in Los Angeles, awaiting your apology for your role in the attempted murder of over 1 million Americans. (Oh, yea, sorry about your counsel, but he was killed by your own men.)” ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Love](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Dr.Love](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Love)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episodes-23-24-5-00am-7-00am/305139/80 "2005-05-24T06:12:08Z")
> [@shelbo](#): > > Paris Hilton is smoking hot. > > Who knew!? Paris Hilton? I think, in the next season, Jack and NakedMandy should team up to fight terrorism. They could travel around in the van with Michelle and Tony (and throw in Chloe too). Their one and only rule would be that all disagreements would be settled with bra and panties all girl pillowfights. Ratings would be at an all time high. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episodes-23-24-5-00am-7-00am/305139.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episodes-23-24-5-00am-7-00am/305139.md?page=5)