# 24: Season 4: Episodes 23-24 (5:00am - 7:00am) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 23, 2005, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episodes-23-24-5-00am-7-00am/305139 "2005-05-23T19:06:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![cbawlmer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@cbawlmer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cbawlmer)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episodes-23-24-5-00am-7-00am/305139/101 "2005-05-24T15:29:47Z")
> [@Merijeek](#): > > So, what’s this, Jack has gone towards the light twice now? Or am I missing one? Twice on this show, and several times in _Flatliners_. I hope next year, the newly-undead Bauer will be in charge of a bunch of young vampires menacing a beach community. Then the next year, he can be a cowboy! ---
**Author:** ![silk1976](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@silk1976](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silk1976)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episodes-23-24-5-00am-7-00am/305139/102 "2005-05-24T15:29:50Z")
Favorite part: HTB is holding Tony hostage with a gun to his head, and asks Jack (paraphrasing here): “Do you really have what it takes to shoot me and kill him in the process?” Pause… “Yes” ---
**Author:** ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episodes-23-24-5-00am-7-00am/305139/103 "2005-05-24T16:06:56Z")
> [@Finagle](#): > > And what’s with leaving the departure until the last minute? I don’t care how hot terrorist babe is, I wouldn’t be waiting around for her if I knew a nuke was on its way. Which bring to mind the question “Why the hell did Marwan have them aim the missle at the city he was in? Isn’t that f\*cking stupid?” ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episodes-23-24-5-00am-7-00am/305139/104 "2005-05-24T16:11:35Z")
> [@Trion](#): > > Which bring to mind the question “Why the hell did Marwan have them aim the missle at the city he was in? Isn’t that f\*cking stupid?” He assumed all along that his plan was perfect (albeit overly-complex). He figured he’d land on his ship just in time to see the mushroom cloud. ---
**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episodes-23-24-5-00am-7-00am/305139/105 "2005-05-24T16:13:28Z")
One thing- I myself am sick of LA being the focal point of half the movies/shows out there, but _of course_ they’re going to send the missile to LA. _That’s where the characters on the show are!_ They’re not going to send the missile to Tampa and expect us to watch and/or give a crap about the CTU yahoos they got there. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episodes-23-24-5-00am-7-00am/305139/106 "2005-05-24T16:14:26Z")
> [@Trion](#): > > Which bring to mind the question “Why the hell did Marwan have them aim the missle at the city he was in? Isn’t that f\*cking stupid?” Well, he had 10 whole minutes to get to his ship which was out of the zone of a nuclear blast. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episodes-23-24-5-00am-7-00am/305139/107 "2005-05-24T16:16:42Z")
> [@Troy McClure SF](#): > > One thing- I myself am sick of LA being the focal point of half the movies/shows out there, but _of course_ they’re going to send the missile to LA. _That’s where the characters on the show are!_ They’re not going to send the missile to Tampa and expect us to watch and/or give a crap about the CTU yahoos they got there. Now that Jack is a “free agent”, he could end up at any CTU office in the country. It would have been interesting to have the show set in New York. Nearly every episode would show Jack in Manhattan traffic. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episodes-23-24-5-00am-7-00am/305139/108 "2005-05-24T16:26:41Z")
> [@Finagle](#): > > I don’t care how hot terrorist babe is, I wouldn’t be waiting around for her if I knew a nuke was on its way. Did you buy gas? Damn, I knew I forgot _something!_ ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episodes-23-24-5-00am-7-00am/305139/109 "2005-05-24T16:28:32Z")
Murder isn’t a federal crime. Can the President give pardons for state crimes? ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episodes-23-24-5-00am-7-00am/305139/110 "2005-05-24T16:29:03Z")
Hell, why pick a city thousands of miles away, couldn’t he have targeted Chicago and not given CTU all that time to find the missile? ---
**Author:** ![interface2x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c0e974/32.png) [@interface2x](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/interface2x)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episodes-23-24-5-00am-7-00am/305139/111 "2005-05-24T16:58:20Z")
> [@Mr. Blue Sky](#): > > As for the Chinese wanting to see Jack’s body: if we assume they don’t know what Jack looks like, they could use Paul’s body. It’s pretty shot up. That way, Paul could saves Jack’s bacon twice. We actually can’t assume they didn’t know what Jack looks like - that one head Chinese dude sat there and talked to him face-to-face back at CTU a couple of hours ago. He seemed pretty knowledgeable about who Jack is, too. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episodes-23-24-5-00am-7-00am/305139/112 "2005-05-24T17:12:17Z")
> [@interface2x](#): > > We actually can’t assume they didn’t know what Jack looks like - that one head Chinese dude sat there and talked to him face-to-face back at CTU a couple of hours ago. He seemed pretty knowledgeable about who Jack is, too. Shoot his corpse in the face, hack off his fingers and then set it on fire. They’d by that, right? I think the ploy was only meant to buy him time, CTU can’t possibly believe the Chinese would buy his death without a corpse. Then again they have agents that are stupid enough to uncover their face during covert missions, get caught and give up their supervisor’s names just by threatening them with torture. What a wuss. I bet he still gets sent to that Chinese work camp. Here’s hoping that next season is Jack breaking into that Chinese prison just to beat the crap out of Agent Wuss. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episodes-23-24-5-00am-7-00am/305139/113 "2005-05-24T17:17:13Z")
> [@Wile E](#): > > Shoot his corpse in the face, hack off his fingers and then set it on fire. Note to self: do NOT piss off Wile E. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episodes-23-24-5-00am-7-00am/305139/114 "2005-05-24T17:24:26Z")
> [@Mr. Blue Sky](#): > > Note to self: do NOT piss off Wile E. _smiles sweetly_ But he was already dead, he won’t feel it. ---
**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episodes-23-24-5-00am-7-00am/305139/115 "2005-05-24T17:26:38Z")
> [@Wile E](#): > > Shoot his corpse in the face, hack off his fingers and then set it on fire. They’d by that, right? > > I think the ploy was only meant to buy him time, CTU can’t possibly believe the Chinese would buy his death without a corpse. Then again they have agents that are stupid enough to uncover their face during covert missions, get caught and give up their supervisor’s names just by threatening them with torture. What a wuss. I bet he still gets sent to that Chinese work camp. > > Here’s hoping that next season is Jack breaking into that Chinese prison just to beat the crap out of Agent Wuss. I bet they keep George Mason’s body around for emergencies just like this… ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episodes-23-24-5-00am-7-00am/305139/116 "2005-05-24T17:53:56Z")
> [@Max Carnage](#): > > Hi guys! Miss me? I figure now I can read these threads without fear of spoilers. I even watched the “next week on 24” bit 🙂 > > Gotta say, I wasn’t sure if Keifer had signed on for another season. I’d still watch a day of 24 if Tony were in charge, which is what I thought would have happened a couple of years ago. > > Curtis’ nickname…Black Bauer? I’m disappointed. “Black Jack” anyone? > > Crap…I’m being called out to work…be back later… I’m with you here. Black Jack is way better, and Black Bauer always made me picture a bizzaro Jack Bauer that was pure evil, kinda like in the Superman and Spider-man comics… ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episodes-23-24-5-00am-7-00am/305139/117 "2005-05-24T18:03:19Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Murder isn’t a federal crime. > > Can the President give pardons for state crimes? No he can’t. Murder and attempted muder of a federal government official or presidential candidate is a federal crime _and_ a state crime. Terror Babe could still be prosecuted in state court for her crimes. ---
**Author:** ![Squee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba9def/32.png) [@Squee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squee)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episodes-23-24-5-00am-7-00am/305139/118 "2005-05-24T18:03:46Z")
I think Season 5 should have “Black Bauer”, Kiefer with a mustache and a goatee, his evil twin brother. And the finale should have some sort of KITT vs KARR reference. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episodes-23-24-5-00am-7-00am/305139/119 "2005-05-24T18:05:07Z")
> [@Squee](#): > > I think Season 5 should have “Black Bauer”, Kiefer with a mustache and a goatee, his evil twin brother. And the finale should have some sort of KITT vs KARR reference. How about a CHLOE vs KLOEY? ---
**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2005, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episodes-23-24-5-00am-7-00am/305139/120 "2005-05-24T18:10:14Z")
> [@Mr. Blue Sky](#): > > How about a CHLOE vs KLOEY? How exactly does one describe Evil Chloe? I mean, the tight leather outfit and whip are a given, but what about her _personality_? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episodes-23-24-5-00am-7-00am/305139.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-4-episodes-23-24-5-00am-7-00am/305139.md?page=7)