# 24: Season 5: Episode 10 (4:00pm - 5:00pm)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-10-4-00pm-5-00pm/346381>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 27, 2006, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-10-4-00pm-5-00pm/346381 "2006-02-27T22:11:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-10-4-00pm-5-00pm/346381/81 "2006-02-28T23:30:38Z")

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> [@Finagle](#):
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> I question the tactics of the guy in the front seat of the limo. The limo has stood up to an RPG blast, automatic weapon fire and a flamethrower. And he opens the door to fire back. Admittedly, he’s apparently taken the Jack Bauer Never Miss pistol-shooting course, but if he takes a bullet, the limo is wide open.

There’s a HUGE difference between “stood up to a flamethrower” and “has stood up to a flamethrower for a couple seconds so far”.

-Joe

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**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-10-4-00pm-5-00pm/346381/82 "2006-02-28T23:40:16Z")

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Just a thought…

When the Chechens ran up the Russian Presidents limo, did anyone else think for a second that they were going to(try to) open the door and Kidnap the Russians and the first lady? Or was it just me?

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**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-10-4-00pm-5-00pm/346381/83 "2006-02-28T23:48:50Z")

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> [@Evil One](#):
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> I feel silly asking this as I have watched every episode…but have we seen any mention of the Vice President at all? Who is he?

He’s busy shooting lawyers…

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-10-4-00pm-5-00pm/346381/84 "2006-02-28T23:50:33Z")

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> [@kidchameleon](#):
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> He’s busy shooting lawyers…

Oh no you di-int!!

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-10-4-00pm-5-00pm/346381/85 "2006-02-28T23:52:51Z")

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> [@kidchameleon](#):
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> He’s busy shooting lawyers…

Pull!  
_nolo contendere_  
BAM!

Pull!  
_habes corpus_  
BAM!

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**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2006, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-10-4-00pm-5-00pm/346381/86 "2006-02-28T23:56:58Z")

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> [@Evil One](#):
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> I feel silly asking this as I have watched every episode…but have we seen any mention of the Vice President at all? Who is he?

Nope.

I keep thinking that there’s no way Logan would want someone more competant then him in a position to directly suceed him.

And then I thought better of it.

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**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2006, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-10-4-00pm-5-00pm/346381/87 "2006-03-01T02:41:42Z")

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> [@Gangster Octopus](#):
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> Oh no you di-int!!

Well, in 24land they’d be evil, terrorist lawyers…

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**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2006, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-10-4-00pm-5-00pm/346381/88 "2006-03-01T03:20:31Z")

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> [@kidchameleon](#):
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> Well, in 24land they’d be evil, terrorist lawyers…

Like that Amnesty Global guy in Season 4.

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**Author:** ![Wolfian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7ea924/32.png) [@Wolfian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolfian)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2006, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-10-4-00pm-5-00pm/346381/89 "2006-03-01T05:47:39Z")

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> [@Finagle](#):
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> The limo has stood up to an \*\*RPG \*\* blast,\</snip\>

The terrorists have [Buster Swords](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=359202)? Sweet!

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**Author:** ![mack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mack)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2006, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-10-4-00pm-5-00pm/346381/90 "2006-03-01T12:49:53Z")

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> [@RancidYakButterTeaParty](#):
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> Didn’t it seem wierd to anyone else that Henderson just happened to have a “clipboard bomb” sitting on his desk to conveniently take with him to the bunker?

That Staples Rewards program is really something!

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**Author:** ![5que](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/3bc359/32.png) [@5que](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5que)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2006, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-10-4-00pm-5-00pm/346381/91 "2006-03-01T14:36:40Z")

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> [@HPL](#):
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> When the Chechens ran up the Russian Presidents limo, did anyone else think for a second that they were going to(try to) open the door and Kidnap the Russians and the first lady? Or was it just me?

No, not just you – I thought it too. Like that Tom Clancy movie where the IRA faction was trying to kidnap one of the royal family, but Indiana Jones saved them.

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**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2006, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-10-4-00pm-5-00pm/346381/92 "2006-03-01T14:54:26Z")

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Quote:  
Originally Posted by Finagle  
The limo has stood up to an RPG blast,\</snip\>

> [@Wolfian](#):
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> The terrorists have [Buster Swords](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=359202)? Sweet!

Fortunately, the limo made a saving roll and resisted the flamethrower. They must have been cranking the AC.

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**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2006, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-10-4-00pm-5-00pm/346381/93 "2006-03-01T15:58:55Z")

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> [@Wolfian](#):
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> The terrorists have [Buster Swords](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=359202)? Sweet!

They might have been [gunblades](http://www.trueswords.com/final-fantasy-squall-leonharts-revolver-gunblade-p-1245.html) too.

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**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2006, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-10-4-00pm-5-00pm/346381/94 "2006-03-01T17:34:15Z")

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> [@Plynck](#):
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> The guy in the office next to me was called into a meeting this morning. I stood behind my door for an hour with a stapler, just in case.
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> That seemed a bit contrived. I wish that they had Henderson say that he recognized Bauer’s voice to at least give _some_ reason for lying in wait.

Well, there may have been more to it than just the secretary’s call – I suppose they leave that to the viewer’s imagination? I’m sure that Henderson must know about some of the things that are going on today, so on this specific day he may be more on his guard than on any random office day. Keeping an eye out for potentially suspicious things, or people showing up to question him – especially covertly (probably a mode of his own operation as a former CTU agent).

I guess the point is that this guy is not a random thug – he was a former CTU agent, too (I’m guessing field agent like Jack, although they didn’t say for sure) – so he’s going to be a competent adversary for Jack, somebody with similar training and a personal history. I like the idea of bringing this sort of element into the story.

And hey… for all we know, maybe Henderson tasers all his appointments, just to be on the safe side! 😃

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**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2006, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-10-4-00pm-5-00pm/346381/95 "2006-03-01T17:40:28Z")

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> [@HPL](#):
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> -There is no way Logan is ever getting laid again.

Tune in to next week’s show, when we’ll hear President Logan say…

“Mike, I’ve changed my mind. I want to veto that Anti-Pornography Bill that Congress just sent over. And show me how that file-sharing program on the computer works again…”

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**Author:** ![Plynck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Plynck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plynck)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2006, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-10-4-00pm-5-00pm/346381/96 "2006-03-01T18:52:15Z")

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> [@Monstre](#):
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> I’m sure that Henderson must know about some of the things that are going on today, so on this specific day he may be more on his guard than on any random office day.

:smack: Excellent point. I should have thought of that; it’s been 10 weeks for us, but only 10 hours for them so of course he would be on his guard more than any ordinary day.

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**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2006, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-10-4-00pm-5-00pm/346381/97 "2006-03-01T21:06:28Z")

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> [@Evil One](#):
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> I feel silly asking this as I have watched every episode…but have we seen any mention of the Vice President at all? Who is he?

Clearly the Vice President is Satan Incarnate, complete with large horns, cloven-hooved feet, a tail, glowing red eyes, deep scary voice that makes James Earl Jones sound like a guy who breathed helium, etc. If that weren’t the case, then Aaron or somebody would have done their patriotic duty and offed that little weasel Logan by now.

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**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2006, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-10-4-00pm-5-00pm/346381/98 "2006-03-01T21:22:29Z")

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> [@Plynck](#):
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> That seemed a bit contrived. I wish that they had Henderson say that he recognized Bauer’s voice to at least give _some_ reason for lying in wait.

I just assumed he had a security camera pointed towards his reception room (which, BTW, is bigger than my entire apartment. Christ, a room the size of an olympic swimming pool and all that it’s used for is a table for a secretary?)

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2006, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-10-4-00pm-5-00pm/346381/99 "2006-03-01T22:22:30Z")

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> [@bouv](#):
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> Christ, a room the size of an olympic swimming pool and all that it’s used for is a table for a secretary?

Nothing for the CTU guys to hide behind.  
Besides, those Uzzis really chew up the furniture. Gets expensive.

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**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2006, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-10-4-00pm-5-00pm/346381/100 "2006-03-03T17:44:05Z")

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Sorry I’m late guys, but I do have a relevant point/question here. (I finally got around to watching the episode last night – busy week.)

We were speculating a couple of weeks ago about whether the guy who stole Lynn’s keycard was going to try to sell it just for money, or whether he’s actually got some in with the bad guys.

My thinking now is, since CTU has removed Lynn from power (presumably on a permanent basis, now that they know he screwed up the intelligence they had on the motorcade), it seems to me that there’s no possible way the druggie could blackmail Lynn for money – Lynn’s been rendered irrelevant. So the keycard seems BOUND to wind up in the hands of one of the terrorists.

Is it just me?

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