# 24: Season 5: Episode 13 (7:00pm - 8:00pm) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 13, 2006, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-13-7-00pm-8-00pm/348246 "2006-03-13T23:07:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2006, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-13-7-00pm-8-00pm/348246/1 "2006-03-13T23:07:53Z")
> [@](#): > > **Rules for official “24” threads:** > > - Unboxed discussion of any events in episodes, once aired on the east coast, is fine (not counting next week’s previews). > - Speculation on upcoming episodes, based on aired shows, is fine. > > Any of the following must be in spoiler boxes only: > > - advance knowledge of upcoming shows from any sources outside the actual aired show > - speculation based on such advance knowledge > - “Next week on 24” previews. (Some folks don’t watch these, to remain truly spoiler-free). Kim’s back, and trouble has follwed her, in the form of a deadly gas cloud that’s trapped them all in a glass box. And she’s driven off Chase and picked up the new pre-requisite Annoying Boyfriend[sup]TM[/sup]. Meanwhile, if Edgar hadn’t taken that detour to the Break Room to grab the last of the jelly donuts, he might have made it to the sealed-off Situation Room in time. Now Chloe is going to have to open sockets all by herself. And the last we saw of the First Lady, she was playing Kiss-And-Make-Up with her dear hubby, the Prez. But is it for real? or was she luring him into a false sense of security before she rips out his throat with her teeth and runs off into the sunset with Aaron? And Henderson is sealed in the medical suite… with Tony. That’s going to be the fun one to watch for tonight! _24_, Season 5, Episode 13 7:00 PM - 8:00 PM SPOILERS AHEAD! 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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-13-7-00pm-8-00pm/348246/2 "2006-03-14T00:17:59Z")
> [@Monstre](#): > > Meanwhile, if Edgar hadn’t taken that detour to the Break Room to grab the last of the jelly donuts, he might have made it to the sealed-off Situation Room in time. You, Sir, are Truly Evile. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-13-7-00pm-8-00pm/348246/3 "2006-03-14T02:16:09Z")
Hmmm, releasing ALL the remaining gas at one target. Wonder where that’s going to be? And when? Tony, you could try to be a little more helpful. Wouldn’t it be more fun to help interrogate Henderson and inflict as much pain as you can, rather than just kill him outright? You need to start thinking more Jack-like… ---
**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-13-7-00pm-8-00pm/348246/4 "2006-03-14T02:16:24Z")
Who plays the Vice President? I know I recognize him from somewhere. And will they find a way to incorporate a Robocop reference before Peter Weller is gone? They managed to do an Allstate Insurance one last year, surely they can do another zinger this year. ---
**Author:** ![Wolfian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7ea924/32.png) [@Wolfian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolfian)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-13-7-00pm-8-00pm/348246/5 "2006-03-14T02:24:20Z")
Was Jack Bauer the captain of the UCLA swim team? Did Soul-Patch watch The Princess Bride before filming his scene? ---
**Author:** ![5que](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/3bc359/32.png) [@5que](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5que)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-13-7-00pm-8-00pm/348246/6 "2006-03-14T02:24:58Z")
I think that Vice President is up to no good. I know, crazy of me to think so, but I still got this _feeling_… ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-13-7-00pm-8-00pm/348246/7 "2006-03-14T02:26:19Z")
Jack, grabbing Barry’s throat: “When I want your opinion, punk, I’ll give it to you!” Well, that’s what he should have said… 😉 > [@bouv](#): > > Who plays the Vice President? I know I recognize him from somewhere. [Ray Wise](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0936403/) ---
**Author:** ![Wolfian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7ea924/32.png) [@Wolfian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolfian)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-13-7-00pm-8-00pm/348246/8 "2006-03-14T02:31:04Z")
Ru-dy, Ru-dy, Ru-dy, Ru-dy! ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-13-7-00pm-8-00pm/348246/9 "2006-03-14T02:35:19Z")
Lynn’s guard didn’t seem to like Jack’s idea too much – understandably. But you know, if they’re going out into the contaminated areas anyways, wouldn’t it be a good idea to send Lynn into the computer room, and send the other guy running for wherever the nearest gas masks are stored? Unless they’re locked in the basement or something, then at least when they open the room, he could hold his breath and make a run for them. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-13-7-00pm-8-00pm/348246/10 "2006-03-14T02:47:50Z")
Kim: “Every time I’m around you, something horrible happens. People die…” Jack: “Well, you know, sweetheart. That’s your fault, actually. You’re a danger magnet. I’m so sorry I haven’t had more time to teach you how to hang around the right kind of people, how to be a better judge of people that you babysit for, how to disarm cougar traps and such. But saving the city over and over takes just so much of my time and energy, I hope you can understand that…” ---
**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-13-7-00pm-8-00pm/348246/11 "2006-03-14T02:50:21Z")
> [@Monstre](#): > > [Ray Wise](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0936403/) A-HA! He played the president in the cut scenes for Command and Conquer: Red Alert! That’s why he’s so familiar, and why at one point I actually thought he was the prez. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![5que](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/3bc359/32.png) [@5que](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5que)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-13-7-00pm-8-00pm/348246/12 "2006-03-14T02:52:03Z")
Who is the woman? That isn’t Nina, is it? ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-13-7-00pm-8-00pm/348246/13 "2006-03-14T02:58:03Z")
Holy crap, are they killing off Tony, too?!! ARRRRGGGHHHHHH!!! So what did he put in the syringe? Just an overdose of the stuff they were already using on Henderson? Or something more lethal? ---
**Author:** ![Wolfian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7ea924/32.png) [@Wolfian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolfian)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-13-7-00pm-8-00pm/348246/14 "2006-03-14T03:00:06Z")
> [@5que](#): > > Who is the woman? That isn’t Nina, is it? I thought Nina died in season 3. Mandy’s still out there, I think. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-13-7-00pm-8-00pm/348246/15 "2006-03-14T03:00:19Z")
> [@5que](#): > > Who is the woman? That isn’t Nina, is it? You mean the chick coming in from Homeland Security? She’s a totally new character. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-13-7-00pm-8-00pm/348246/16 "2006-03-14T03:01:21Z")
Oh, or maybe you meant the one who was answering Bierko’s call. Yeah, she was kind of Mandy-ish, but she wasn’t Mandy. Similar M.O., it seems. She’s a new character, too. ---
**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-13-7-00pm-8-00pm/348246/17 "2006-03-14T03:01:54Z")
> [@Wolfian](#): > > I thought Nina died in season 3. Mandy’s still out there, I think. That wasn’t Mandy, it was someone new. OK, from the preview: What location would ensure 200,000 dead people? I can only think of a sports arena of some kind, but do they even hold that many? ---
**Author:** ![PastAllReason](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f07891/32.png) [@PastAllReason](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastAllReason)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-13-7-00pm-8-00pm/348246/18 "2006-03-14T03:03:48Z")
> [@Monstre](#): > > Oh, or maybe you meant the one who was answering Bierko’s call. Yeah, she was kind of Mandy-ish, but she wasn’t Mandy. Similar M.O., it seems. > > She’s a new character, too. Are you sure it wasn’t Mandy? Though admittedly the entries haven’t been perfect in their lists this season, according to IMDb she was in the episode. And damn them if they’ve killed Tony. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-13-7-00pm-8-00pm/348246/19 "2006-03-14T03:08:03Z")
So, what’s the next target going to be? From this ep, we know that Bierko was getting “building plans” (I think ventilation schematics, did he specifically mention?) – so it would have to be a building of some sort. Also, we know it’s a location with a bit of security around it – that seemed to be implied by the conversation with the woman on the cell phone, too. As for buildings with lots of potential casualties, one thought was LAX at peak travel times? But besides basic security checks for people boarding planes, I wouldn’t think that to be a highly secure facility, especially for the main areas. So, anybody know any huge-ass buildings in L.A. that would be likely targets? Worth using all the remaining cannisters on? ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2006, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-13-7-00pm-8-00pm/348246/20 "2006-03-14T03:10:10Z")
> [@PastAllReason](#): > > Are you sure it wasn’t Mandy? Though admittedly the entries haven’t been perfect in their lists this season, according to IMDb she was in the episode. Yeah, I see now that IMDB did list her. But the one in this episode didn’t look like [Mia Kirshner](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000477/) to me. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-13-7-00pm-8-00pm/348246.md?page=2)