# 24: Season 5: Episode 14 (8:00pm - 9:00pm) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 20, 2006, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-14-8-00pm-9-00pm/349214 "2006-03-20T23:18:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Greywolf73](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d9b06d/32.png) [@Greywolf73](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greywolf73)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2006, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-14-8-00pm-9-00pm/349214/41 "2006-03-21T14:46:08Z")
> [@Cluricaun](#): > > How did the people who shot up Wayne’s car get past the roadblock? Nobody knew he was coming until after the troops were deployed. I was assuming it’s an inside job and they were already there. Ordered by the VP? But…how did they know Wayne was on his way there? The first couple of minutes of the episode were funny to me. End of last episode: Jack: _Sobs_ Tony, noooooo! Beginning of this episode: (2 minutes later) Jack: (Talking to CTU officers who are putting Tony into a body bag) Well, wrap him up and put him on ice. I’m late, gotta go! If nothing else, CTU is certainly efficient at disposing of dead CTU agents. ---
**Author:** ![MrsMonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e8cbc/32.png) [@MrsMonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrsMonkey)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2006, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-14-8-00pm-9-00pm/349214/42 "2006-03-21T14:50:13Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > They called it a distribution center. No idea how that’ll work for spreading a nerve gas, but I’m supposing we’ll learn it’s something that will disperse the toxin far beyond just the initial “target”. Perhaps like a water treatment plant or something of that vein. > > I don’t think the implication is that there’s 200,000 people piled into one place. This is a quote is from E Online’s Kristin’s weekly chat… One of the next targets is some sort of natural gas system that will reach thousands of people. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2006, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-14-8-00pm-9-00pm/349214/43 "2006-03-21T14:51:17Z")
> [@Stephe96](#): > > Mission Impossible The Recruit with Collin Farrell and Al Pacino also had “NOCs”. It doesn’t matter if CTU’s personal was reduced by 50% because Bauer and Chloe are the only ones who do any damn work! ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2006, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-14-8-00pm-9-00pm/349214/44 "2006-03-21T15:11:39Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > The Recruit with Collin Farrell and Al Pacino also had “NOCs”. > > It doesn’t matter if CTU’s personal was reduced by 50% because Bauer and Chloe are the only ones who do any damn work! Untrue. The redshirts had a very important role - bullet catchers. BTW, Curtis sure forgave Jack fast for the knockout a few hours back, after the mall. ---
**Author:** ![Plynck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Plynck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plynck)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2006, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-14-8-00pm-9-00pm/349214/45 "2006-03-21T15:17:06Z")
> [@Monstre](#): > > They should have been playing a little Mamas & Papas while Stoller was threatening Curtis with the gun. He runs out into the jungle… And ends up in L.A.! Damn, L.A. really _is_ five minutes away from everything! > [@Monstre](#): > > “24”, Season 6: Chinese and German agents resort to terrorist operations on U.S. soil and battle each other, as well, in their attempts to apprehend Jack Bauer. Oh, and three middle eastern coutries get in on the action, too. Actually, that was my guess for Stoller’s revenge. He must know (or will find out) that Jack is thought dead by the Chinese. It wouldn’t surprise me at all that he sells this information to get back undercover. My guess: It will really turn out to be Karen Hayes (Homeland Security Denmother) who leaked the schematics to Collette as part of an uber-patriotic coup, in collusion with VP Leland Palmer. ---
**Author:** ![Cluricaun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Cluricaun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cluricaun)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2006, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-14-8-00pm-9-00pm/349214/46 "2006-03-21T15:18:22Z")
> [@Papermache Prince](#): > > I assumed the people who shot up Wayne’s car were already inside the roadblock - perhaps part of the evil VP’s evil team. I’ll fully agree that the VP is in like Flint with a large part of this plot. I’m thinking that he must have duped Audrey somehow into sending the schematic to Evil Broker Woman, but I don’t think that the VP was behind the attack on Wayne’s car, unless we’ll speculate that the VP orchestrated David Palmers assassination too??? I think these turn out to be the same people who were behind that. Are we going with the VP has a Secret Terrorist Army at his disposal? ---
**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2006, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-14-8-00pm-9-00pm/349214/47 "2006-03-21T15:27:34Z")
> [@HPL](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > Y’know, if they kill off enough of the regular characters, we might finally see Chloe in command of CTU. > > Well, Jack still outranks her, and without Jack there is no show. He’ll be one of the last to die. Jack isn’t really part of CTU anymore though, as he reminded us last night. Besides, he’s needed in the field. I’m thinking that after Buchanan, Curtis, Audrey and a whole lot of redshirts are killed, Chloe should get a brevet promotion. I smell a sitcom spin-off! ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2006, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-14-8-00pm-9-00pm/349214/48 "2006-03-21T15:50:25Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > Do I get credit for posting this last week? If so, then I want partial credit for a guess I made (offline). In trying to guess which good guy would be the next to be offed, my GF and I went down the list. Bill? No. Curtis? Nope. Who could be next? Wayne. I guessed Wayne. Three points for tdn. But I wish that Karen would mothball CTU, and kill the rest of the staff. Jack, Curtis, and Chloe would go renegade. It’d be like the Mod Squad. ---
**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2006, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-14-8-00pm-9-00pm/349214/49 "2006-03-21T16:23:00Z")
Darn, I guess I haven’t been paying close enough attention. Who the heck is Wayne? And where \* do \* these terrorist organizations get their legions of assassins? The twist ending of this episode makes no sense when you think about it. The bad guys originally thought they’d be moving the nerve gas to Russia. Which means that before today, they had no need for information that Collette was brokering. So sometime during the last 18 or so hours, Collette would have had to have contacted Audrey to get the info she wanted. But it’s been a \* full \* day for CTU personnel. When would she find the time? Meanwhile, bad guy terrorists who have offed people right and left all day in order to leave no tracks let info-broker babe walk out the door right before a major operation. ---
**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2006, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-14-8-00pm-9-00pm/349214/50 "2006-03-21T16:30:28Z")
> [@RikWriter](#): > > I am thinking natural gas. Do they have gas heating/cooking etc in LA? I was thinking that too, but it’s probably summer in LA, so not many people would be using it for heating. Then again, in a few months…everyone dies of nerve gas on the first cold day. ---
**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2006, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-14-8-00pm-9-00pm/349214/51 "2006-03-21T16:33:58Z")
> [@Greywolf73](#): > > I was assuming it’s an inside job and they were already there. Ordered by the VP? But…how did they know Wayne was on his way there? The guys at the roadblock called the VP, remember? No doubt he let wayne through and then called his hit squad, who just happen to be hanging out in their van smoking pot, waiting for someone to intercept going to the retreat. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2006, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-14-8-00pm-9-00pm/349214/52 "2006-03-21T16:36:00Z")
> [@Finagle](#): > > Darn, I guess I haven’t been paying close enough attention. Who the heck is Wayne? The former First Brother. Palmer’s brother. Former bad guy turned good. We saw him briefly in hour one. He was in the room when the former Pres got shot. ---
**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2006, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-14-8-00pm-9-00pm/349214/53 "2006-03-21T16:36:12Z")
> [@Finagle](#): > > Darn, I guess I haven’t been paying close enough attention. Who the heck is Wayne? > > The twist ending of this episode makes no sense when you think about it. The bad guys originally thought they’d be moving the nerve gas to Russia. Which means that before today, they had no need for information that Collette was brokering. So sometime during the last 18 or so hours, Collette would have had to have contacted Audrey to get the info she wanted. But it’s been a \* full \* day for CTU personnel. When would she find the time? Wayne is the President’s brother and during Season 3, was either his Chief of staff or campaign manager. I think Badger(yellow tie) thought the gas was going to russia, but bienko was planning on hitting CTU all along. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2006, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-14-8-00pm-9-00pm/349214/54 "2006-03-21T16:37:37Z")
> [@Greywolf73](#): > > If nothing else, CTU is certainly efficient at disposing of dead CTU agents. Practice, practice, practice. Practice makes perfect. Etc. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2006, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-14-8-00pm-9-00pm/349214/55 "2006-03-21T16:42:41Z")
> [@Merijeek](#): > > Practice, practice, practice. > > Practice makes perfect. They got plenty on day two. Slight hijack: How much time has elapsed since day one? ---
**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2006, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-14-8-00pm-9-00pm/349214/56 "2006-03-21T16:45:59Z")
> [@HPL](#): > > I said “Oh, like Jack’s never heard that before!” “Bitch, I’ve died three times in the past five years.” While I do like new Hot Russian Terror Babe, I do feel a bit betrayed that it’s not Mandy. ---
**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2006, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-14-8-00pm-9-00pm/349214/57 "2006-03-21T16:50:02Z")
I think that after this crisis is over, Jack, Curtis and Chloe should get themselves a van and disappear into the Los Angeles underground, operating as soldiers of fortune. ---
**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2006, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-14-8-00pm-9-00pm/349214/58 "2006-03-21T17:21:37Z")
> [@HPL](#): > > I think Badger(yellow tie) thought the gas was going to russia, but bienko was planning on hitting CTU all along. I thought Bienko made it pretty clear that he was having to improvise. Am I missing something? ---
**Author:** ![Plynck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Plynck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plynck)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2006, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-14-8-00pm-9-00pm/349214/59 "2006-03-21T17:36:53Z")
> [@Finagle](#): > > So sometime during the last 18 or so hours, Collette would have had to have contacted Audrey to get the info she wanted. But it’s been a \* full \* day for CTU personnel. When would she find the time? When Jack was using the men’s room? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2006, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-14-8-00pm-9-00pm/349214/60 "2006-03-21T17:39:07Z")
> [@](#): > > Slight hijack: How much time has elapsed since day one? About seven and a half years. If you assume that season 1 was set in 2004 (the first presidential election year following 2001, when the show debuted,) then it’s September 2011 now. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-14-8-00pm-9-00pm/349214.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-14-8-00pm-9-00pm/349214.md?page=4)