# 24: Season 5: Episode 14 (8:00pm - 9:00pm) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 20, 2006, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-14-8-00pm-9-00pm/349214 "2006-03-20T23:18:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![5que](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/3bc359/32.png) [@5que](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5que)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2006, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-14-8-00pm-9-00pm/349214/61 "2006-03-21T17:59:06Z")
> [@HPL](#): > > I was thinking that too, but it’s probably summer in LA, so not many people would be using it for heating. > Then again, in a few months…everyone dies of nerve gas on the first cold day. But why would you need to get schematics of a gas plant from the DoD? Couldn’t you get them from Enron, or the building inspector’s office, or something? Seem like if you have to get info from a mole inside the Department of Defense, it’s got to be something bigger & more secure. BTW, does it say something about all of us that the Google ads are for ADD? ---
**Author:** ![interface2x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c0e974/32.png) [@interface2x](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/interface2x)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2006, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-14-8-00pm-9-00pm/349214/62 "2006-03-21T18:09:25Z")
> [@JThunder](#): > > I think that after this crisis is over, Jack, Curtis and Chloe should get themselves a van and disappear into the Los Angeles underground, operating as soldiers of fortune. “And I would’ve gotten away with it if it weren’t for you rotten ex-CTU agents!” ---
**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2006, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-14-8-00pm-9-00pm/349214/63 "2006-03-21T18:34:22Z")
> [@JThunder](#): > > I think that after this crisis is over, Jack, Curtis and Chloe should get themselves a van and disappear into the Los Angeles underground, operating as soldiers of fortune. I had actually suggested a season back that the only way the writers could up the ante for season 5 would be to unleash a plague across America that turned the dead into zombies, and have Jack, David Palmer, Tony, Michelle, and Chloe traveling the highways and byways of post-zombie apocalypse America in a van, helping survivors and solving mysteries (and fighting a lot of zombies with chainsaws and shotguns). ---
**Author:** ![FlightlessBird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/cdc98d/32.png) [@FlightlessBird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlightlessBird)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2006, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-14-8-00pm-9-00pm/349214/64 "2006-03-21T18:55:09Z")
Seriously, when will our government learn that trying to usurp power from CTU only ends badly for the usurpers. I mean in Season 1, Bauer had help from Palmer to do what needed to be done. Now he has to argue just to use a top-secret document (easily retrieved by Chloe) as a bargaining chip against a friendly but easily ticked-off government. Geez. ---
**Author:** ![aleong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4af34b/32.png) [@aleong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aleong)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2006, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-14-8-00pm-9-00pm/349214/65 "2006-03-21T19:03:38Z")
> [@Monstre](#): > > “24”, Season 6: Chinese and German agents resort to terrorist operations on U.S. soil and battle each other, as well, in their attempts to apprehend Jack Bauer. Oh, and three middle eastern coutries get in on the action, too. Don’t forget that some country in ‘Central Asia’ gets their licks in too. ---
**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2006, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-14-8-00pm-9-00pm/349214/66 "2006-03-21T21:52:08Z")
> [@Asimovian](#): > > I thought Bienko made it pretty clear that he was having to improvise. Am I missing something? But the whole process of attacking CTU implies a lot of planning, more then just a few hours. Particulary that whole bit with the keycard. It makes it really hard to buy that there was no thought to this beforehand. ---
**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2006, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-14-8-00pm-9-00pm/349214/67 "2006-03-21T21:55:28Z")
> [@JThunder](#): > > Jack isn’t really part of CTU anymore though, as he reminded us last night. Besides, he’s needed in the field. Jack is always “not part of CTU anymore” when the season begins(Except maybe season 3). Then he quickly gets reinstated on some kind of provisional basis. The whole “I’m not part of CTU” thing is effectivly meaningless when he always ends up rejoining them, or working with them all the time. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2006, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-14-8-00pm-9-00pm/349214/68 "2006-03-21T22:19:58Z")
> [@HPL](#): > > of planning, more then just a few hours. Particulary that whole bit with the keycard. It makes it really hard to buy that there was no thought to this beforehand. Perhaps it’s one of those plots within a plot where the Vice President, or even the Secretary of Transportation is controlling everything in a mad power grab. ---
**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2006, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-14-8-00pm-9-00pm/349214/69 "2006-03-22T00:48:56Z")
A friend brought up a good point today. Why doesn’t CTU bring in the 2nd shift to cover the 40% lost? They do have another shift, right? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2006, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-14-8-00pm-9-00pm/349214/70 "2006-03-22T01:33:54Z")
> [@HPL](#): > > They do have another shift, right? What the hell do they _do_ in the two years or so between terrorist attacks? Sit around and read _Soldier of Fortune?_ Make files on terrorists? I saw the previews from next week when I burned the DVD today; Jack slamming Audrey up against the wall. You gotta wonder what he was like in High School. Did he get jealous if the girl went out with someone else? “IF YOU GO OUT WITH THE QUARTERBACK, MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WILL DIE!” ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2006, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-14-8-00pm-9-00pm/349214/71 "2006-03-22T01:59:19Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > You gotta wonder what he was like in High School. Did he get jealous if the girl went out with someone else? > “IF YOU GO OUT WITH THE QUARTERBACK, MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WILL DIE!” You’re shitting me, right? Jack WAS the quarterback! ---
**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2006, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-14-8-00pm-9-00pm/349214/72 "2006-03-22T02:00:26Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > What the hell do they _do_ in the two years or so between terrorist attacks? Sit around and read _Soldier of Fortune?_ Make files on terrorists? They look for moles to hire. No, wait’s. That CTU HR. ---
**Author:** ![alex\_the\_grape](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@alex\_the\_grape](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alex_the_grape)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2006, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-14-8-00pm-9-00pm/349214/73 "2006-03-22T02:11:25Z")
Who played the villainess? She’s absolutely gorgeous. ---
**Author:** ![fiddlesticks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddlesticks/32/18129_2.png) [@fiddlesticks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fiddlesticks)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2006, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-14-8-00pm-9-00pm/349214/74 "2006-03-22T02:19:43Z")
> [@alex the grape](#): > > Who played the villainess? She’s absolutely gorgeous. [Stana Katic](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1065664/). No argument on her gorgousness, but she’s not quite at Mandy’s level. ---
**Author:** ![BobT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e8cbc/32.png) [@BobT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobT)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2006, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-14-8-00pm-9-00pm/349214/75 "2006-03-22T02:31:11Z")
It’s nice to know that in the “24” world that a lot of the problems are bureaucratic turf wars between which agency is in charge of what. Just like in the real world. Wouldn’t an efficient government just put all the various law enforcement people together? We’ve seen CTU arrest people and asks for grants of immunity, but who handles all the legal work? Where’s the U.S. Attorney for Los Angeles? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2006, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-14-8-00pm-9-00pm/349214/76 "2006-03-22T02:38:12Z")
> [@RikWriter](#): > > You’re shitting me, right? Jack WAS the quarterback! He was kicked off the team because he cut fingers off members of the opposing team with bolt cutters to obtain their game plan. ---
**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2006, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-14-8-00pm-9-00pm/349214/77 "2006-03-22T03:30:22Z")
> [@HPL](#): > > A friend brought up a good point today. > > Why doesn’t CTU bring in the 2nd shift to cover the 40% lost? > > They do have another shift, right? Why bother with a second shift? 98% of the time, they have nothing to do but sit around and listen to “chatter.” I figure that when there is NOT a terrorist attack happening, they work an 8-5 shift, then shut the place down at night. Maybe they leave one guy to man the phones on a graveyard shift in case something comes up at night. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2006, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-14-8-00pm-9-00pm/349214/78 "2006-03-22T03:35:25Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > They called it a distribution center. No idea how that’ll work for spreading a nerve gas, but I’m supposing we’ll learn it’s something that will disperse the toxin far beyond just the initial “target”. I’ve got it – it’s the distribution center for Krispy Kreme. Come Monday morning, and 200,000 cops will die… ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2006, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-14-8-00pm-9-00pm/349214/79 "2006-03-22T03:53:21Z")
> [@fiddlesticks](#): > > [Stana Katic](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1065664/). No argument on her gorgousness, but she’s not quite at Mandy’s level. For starters, Mandy wouldn’t have been captured just one hour after showing her face… But I’d still be happy to go on a little “under-cover” operation with either of them. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2006, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-14-8-00pm-9-00pm/349214/80 "2006-03-22T04:23:52Z")
> [@Asimovian](#): > > I thought Bienko made it pretty clear that he was having to improvise. Am I missing something? How to spell Bierko? 😉 > [@HPL](#): > > But the whole process of attacking CTU implies a lot of planning, more then just a few hours. Particulary that whole bit with the keycard. It makes it really hard to buy that there was no thought to this beforehand. Maybe they just had a bunch of contingency plans ready to go? > [@JThunder](#): > > I think that after this crisis is over, Jack, Curtis and Chloe should get themselves a van and disappear into the Los Angeles underground, operating as soldiers of fortune. I pity the fool who doesn’t tell me where the cannisters of nerve gas are!!! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-14-8-00pm-9-00pm/349214.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-14-8-00pm-9-00pm/349214.md?page=5)