# 24: Season 5: Episode 19 (1:00am - 2:00am)
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/354022
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [April 24, 2006, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/354022 "2006-04-24T18:31:03Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)
#### Post date: [April 25, 2006, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/354022/41 "2006-04-25T15:55:06Z")
> [@Finagle](#):
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> I’m trying to figure out how the baddies in the helicopter managed to avoid seeing Curtis’ speeding car as they flew in.
I’m pretty sure Curtis was in a chopper as well - so I assume it was one of those whisper-quiet ones that CTU has.
> [@Finagle](#):
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> We still haven’t seen the repercussions from Jack screwing over the dashingly disheveled German secret agent. I wonder if he’s on the plane.
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> Although the plane looks like a British diplomatic flight. So Jack bids pretty fair to be persona non grata with the Chinese, the Germans, \* and \* the Brits. His choice of vacation destinations is becoming increasingly limited.
Especially since I noticed (at least) a French flag on one of the limos as well.
Soon Jack will be vacationing in either the Outback or Monaco. They couldnt have Jack go to Monaco, though - the entire population would be wiped out in 24 hours…somehow.
-Joe
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### Author:  [@annieclaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/annieclaus)
#### Post date: [April 25, 2006, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/354022/42 "2006-04-25T15:59:13Z")
Fashion Comment: I really did LOVE What’s-Her-Name Heller’s white coat! Too bad it got all messed up and bloody. (Why can’t I remember her name. . . .? I know it will pop into my head the second I post this. Day-um!)
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### Author:  [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)
#### Post date: [April 25, 2006, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/354022/43 "2006-04-25T16:36:15Z")
> [@annieclaus](#):
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> Fashion Comment: I really did LOVE What’s-Her-Name Heller’s white coat! Too bad it got all messed up and bloody. (Why can’t I remember her name. . . .? I know it will pop into my head the second I post this. Day-um!)
Audrey.
And, just to show that women are the same everywhere, my girlfriend commented on how much she loved that coat. “Very Jackie-O” says she.
-Joe
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### Author:  [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)
#### Post date: [April 25, 2006, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/354022/44 "2006-04-25T17:25:37Z")
> [@Merijeek](#):
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> Well…you’re in a helicopter aiming at a car going down the road. You’re going to bounce. He’s going to bounce. The red dot is going to get in the guy’s LOS at some point.
That and what’s really the point of the laser sight if you have as scope? Other then to tip off heller, of course.
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### Author:  [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)
#### Post date: [April 25, 2006, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/354022/45 "2006-04-25T18:04:06Z")
> [@Finagle](#):
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> Explain this to me. Jack is on a plane at Van Nuys airport. The same airport where a \* fuel truck \* blew up not an hour ago, amidst automatic weapon fire, apparently taking down a helicopter at the same time. Air traffic would not be taking place there. The place would be shut down tighter than a frog’s butt.
Good point-- not to mention that the fire would probably still be burning.
BTW, how do you know how tight a frog’s butt is? 😃
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### Author:  [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)
#### Post date: [April 25, 2006, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/354022/46 "2006-04-25T18:04:25Z")
Another fun episode. My quibble (and this should in NO way be taken as an indication that I didn’t enjoy the show) was that suddenly the satellites seem WAY more powerful than they did before. Previously, they’d have to spend some time getting the satellite to point where they wanted. Now, they can suddenly call up the satellite and it automatically recorded what happened 10 minutes ago, and can track cars that left 10 minutes ago? And shouldn’t Henderson have anticipated this? Or does he know that CTU is (officially) off his case.
(Maybe the satellites were already pointing at the airport?)
Anyhow, I’m praying that the person on the plane carrying the tape is Mandy, the frequently-naked-lesbian-assassin. Aside from here, there’s hardly anyone left in the entire 24-verse that it could be… maybe that German guy from earlier this season? Kim’s therapist boyfriend? The vice president? Aaron Pierce, in a baffling plot twist? Chase? Kate Warner? One of David Palmer’s kids from season 1?
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### Author:  [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)
#### Post date: [April 25, 2006, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/354022/47 "2006-04-25T18:12:17Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#):
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> Anyhow, I’m praying that the person on the plane carrying the tape is Mandy, the frequently-naked-lesbian-assassin. Aside from here, there’s hardly anyone left in the entire 24-verse that it could be… maybe that German guy from earlier this season? Kim’s therapist boyfriend? The vice president? Aaron Pierce, in a baffling plot twist? Chase? Kate Warner? One of David Palmer’s kids from season 1?
Let us pray that it’s Behrooz!
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### Author:  [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)
#### Post date: [April 25, 2006, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/354022/48 "2006-04-25T18:19:42Z")
> [@John Mace](#):
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> Good point-- not to mention that the fire would probably still be burning.
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> BTW, how do you know how tight a frog’s butt is? 😃
Everyone know’s that they’re watertight. Unlike the plotting in a 24 episode.
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### Author:  [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)
#### Post date: [April 25, 2006, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/354022/49 "2006-04-25T18:26:10Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#):
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> call up the satellite and it automatically recorded what happened 10 minutes ago, and can track cars that left 10 minutes ago
The writer has obviously confused surveillance satellites with Dish Network DVRs.
He has never experience rain fade. 🙂
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### Author:  [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)
#### Post date: [April 25, 2006, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/354022/50 "2006-04-25T18:34:51Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> He has never experience rain fade. 🙂
**Experienced** rain fade.
Or a spell checker.
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### Author:  [@Cluricaun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cluricaun)
#### Post date: [April 25, 2006, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/354022/51 "2006-04-25T18:36:26Z")
Did anyone else notice that Miles The Bitchy Homeland Nemesis said that he could track Chloe down using…binary. Ah you clever bastard you. Too bad the DOS station was busy…
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### Author:  [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)
#### Post date: [April 25, 2006, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/354022/52 "2006-04-25T19:35:42Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#):
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> Anyhow, I’m praying that the person on the plane carrying the tape is Mandy, the frequently-naked-lesbian-assassin.
That’s fucking brilliant, and I hope to God you’re right.
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### Author:  [@Survey1215](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Survey1215)
#### Post date: [April 25, 2006, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/354022/53 "2006-04-25T19:52:04Z")
Anyone else think that big doofus of a Secret Service agent we saw for the first time in this episode reports directly to Dr. Romano and not the local SS honcho? And may likely get ordered to take out the VP, Novick and/or FLOTUS? Lousy actor too - nice facial expressions, bub. What are you, a reject from the WWE training school? I’d bet that Miles (aka The Queen) is working for the Romano Enclave as well.
Finally, what the hell is stopping Jack and/or Audrey from at least pumping a round or two into Henderson’s knees, take off a pinky toe or something? Until Curtis showed up it looked like he would get away for about the fifth time.
Oh yeah - where the hell is Wayne Palmer hiding at Casa de Buchanan?
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### Author:  [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)
#### Post date: [April 25, 2006, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/354022/54 "2006-04-25T19:59:16Z")
> [@Survey1215](#):
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> Anyone else think that big doofus of a Secret Service agent we saw for the first time in this episode reports directly to Dr. Romano and not the local SS honcho? And may likely get ordered to take out the VP, Novick and/or FLOTUS? Lousy actor too - nice facial expressions, bub. What are you, a reject from the WWE training school? I’d bet that Miles (aka The Queen) is working for the Romano Enclave as well.
Yeah, if they wanted someone for that duty they should have used that gorilla that “killed” Jack last season. Scary dude.
> [@Survey1215](#):
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> Finally, what the hell is stopping Jack and/or Audrey from at least pumping a round or two into Henderson’s knees, take off a pinky toe or something? Until Curtis showed up it looked like he would get away for about the fifth time.
No shit. I’m sorry, guys, but if it looks like he’s going to escape AGAIN do something that will at least disable him for a couple weeks. Cut out his tongue and break his fingers so he has to play charades with his henchmen or something. Take out one of his knees so next time he’s easier to catch.
> [@Survey1215](#):
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> Oh yeah - where the hell is Wayne Palmer hiding at Casa de Buchanan?
He took a wrong turn into the Central Casting Cafeteria - it’s where everyone else disappears to when the writers forget about them.
-Joe
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### Author:  [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)
#### Post date: [April 25, 2006, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/354022/55 "2006-04-25T20:21:03Z")
> [@Merijeek](#):
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> Cut out his tongue and break his fingers so he has to play charades with his henchmen or something.
First word…sounds like…sick? ill? ILL! KILL!
Second word…flap? loose? horns? moose? MOOSE!
third word…fly? flap? wriggle? squirrely? SQUIRREL!
KILL MOOSE AND SQUIRREL!
Yes, fearless leader!
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### Author:  [@Max\_Carnage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Carnage)
#### Post date: [April 25, 2006, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/354022/56 "2006-04-25T20:47:53Z")
Just wanted to throw in another “My girlfriend/fiance loves Audrey Heller’s jacket too” and she was very upset by its new bloody coloring.
Also, when we saw the last minute screen montage, we figured that FLOTUS is about to enjoy a nice cocktail of brandy and about 17 sleeping pills in order to keep her promise of never telling anyone about her husband’s role in this mess.
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### Author:  [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)
#### Post date: [April 25, 2006, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/354022/57 "2006-04-25T20:59:33Z")
> [@Max Carnage](#):
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> Just wanted to throw in another “My girlfriend/fiance loves Audrey Heller’s jacket too” and she was very upset by its new bloody coloring.
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> Also, when we saw the last minute screen montage, we figured that FLOTUS is about to enjoy a nice cocktail of brandy and about 17 sleeping pills in order to keep her promise of never telling anyone about her husband’s role in this mess.
Women!
I hope the FLOTUS does us all a favor and chooses to die…topless!
-Joe, shallow
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### Author:  [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)
#### Post date: [April 25, 2006, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/354022/58 "2006-04-25T21:00:47Z")
I’m glad everyone else is as confused about the new Dr. Fame and coterie bad guys.
I got the impression/theory that maybe these are disgruntled Secret Service men trying to pull some Romanistic Praetorian Guard shenanigans.
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### Author:  [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)
#### Post date: [April 25, 2006, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/354022/59 "2006-04-25T21:23:42Z")
> [@Merijeek](#):
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> I’m starting to think that Audrey needs to get her own nickname - except she hasn’t killed anyone yet…and that should be a requirement for everyone except for Snack Bauer, who has killed many buffets over the years.
Annoying Whiny Girl isn’t a good enough nickname? She needs to die…soon. Let Jack wipe his eyes for two seconds, see if he can salvage the coat, and then move on.
I’m also annoyed with her dad who couldn’t come up with a plan better than driving his car into the water. Especially when there were woods right on the other side of the road.
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### Author:  [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)
#### Post date: [April 25, 2006, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-19-1-00am-2-00am/354022/60 "2006-04-25T21:37:33Z")
> [@amarinth](#):
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> Annoying Whiny Girl isn’t a good enough nickname? She needs to die…soon. Let Jack wipe his eyes for two seconds, see if he can salvage the coat, and then move on.
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> I’m also annoyed with her dad who couldn’t come up with a plan better than driving his car into the water. Especially when there were woods right on the other side of the road.
I got the impression that he wasn’t trying to escape or anything, but purposely killed himself so as to not leave Jack the option to let Henderson go.
I couldn’t help thinking when Jack asked Chloes to try and find Henderson who “left Van Nuys airport about 10 minutes ago” that in the 24-iverse that is enough time to get to almost anywhere in Southern California.
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