# 24: Season 5: Episode 5 (11:00am - 12:00noon) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 23, 2006, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-5-11-00am-12-00noon/341263 "2006-01-23T17:08:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2006, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-5-11-00am-12-00noon/341263/81 "2006-01-25T00:50:16Z")
I just love how Jack Bauer fakes his own death yet decides to live within an hour of CTU. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2006, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-5-11-00am-12-00noon/341263/82 "2006-01-25T01:00:40Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > I just love how Jack Bauer fakes his own death yet decides to live within an hour of CTU. Maybe it was the money. He had somekind of stipend to buy a nice truck and pay his cell phone bill. ---
**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2006, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-5-11-00am-12-00noon/341263/83 "2006-01-25T01:09:28Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > I just love how Jack Bauer fakes his own death yet decides to live within an hour of CTU. Dramatic necessity. If Jack had moved to the Unabomber’s abandoned cabin in Montana, he would have spent the first 18 hours driving to the nearest airport and flying to LA. ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2006, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-5-11-00am-12-00noon/341263/84 "2006-01-25T01:49:15Z")
> [@interface2x](#): > > (c’mon, Jack, robbing a convenience store to slow down a terrorist? How about waiting until he gets inside and letting the air out of a tire?), It’s not QUITE that simple. Part of the point there was to not let the terrorist he was being followed, but still slow him down. Anything that deliberately and obviously targetted him (ie, air out of his tires) might make him suspicious. A crazy man holding up a convenience store? No WAY the cops would pull THAT just to slow him down… > [@msmith537](#): > > I just love how Jack Bauer fakes his own death yet decides to live within an hour of CTU. In fairness, there was a helicopter involved. ---
**Author:** ![BobT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e8cbc/32.png) [@BobT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobT)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2006, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-5-11-00am-12-00noon/341263/85 "2006-01-25T01:53:42Z")
Jack Bauer was living in Mojave. Trust me. You don’t want to live there. The real-life Mojave could have used a Jack Bauer. Mojave High had to cancel a football game and then drop out of the playoffs because a youth gang in the city threatened to burn down the school or some such thing. Details were vague. Perhaps it was a matter of national security. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2006, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-5-11-00am-12-00noon/341263/86 "2006-01-25T01:54:13Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > A crazy man holding up a convenience store? No WAY the cops would pull THAT just to slow him down… Nobody’s _that_ stupid… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2006, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-5-11-00am-12-00noon/341263/87 "2006-01-25T03:10:24Z")
> [@interface2x](#): > > At the moment, not really. It’s still fun and so far it’s not _quite_ as outlandish (c’mon, Jack, robbing a convenience store to slow down a terrorist? How about waiting until he gets inside and letting the air out of a tire?), but unless they are somehow able to pull together some threads it’ll be moving into the “part one was a smokescreen for part two, which was a smokescreen for part three, which was a smokescreen…” territory. To be fair, it’s not at all clear that the hostage situation was just a smokescreen for obtaining the nerve gas. Novick said that the terrorists “took advantage” of the hostage situation, but that doesn’t mean that they didn’t have a genuine interest in blocking the treaty. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2006, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-5-11-00am-12-00noon/341263/88 "2006-01-25T03:22:55Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > I just love how Jack Bauer fakes his own death yet decides to live within an hour of CTU. Jack Bauer lives within an hour of everywhere. ---
**Author:** ![Broken\_Wind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Broken\_Wind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broken_Wind)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2006, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-5-11-00am-12-00noon/341263/89 "2006-01-25T03:47:21Z")
Jack Bauer ensues. ---
**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2006, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-5-11-00am-12-00noon/341263/90 "2006-01-25T04:45:14Z")
Moscow eh? Fair warning, bring something to read for episodes 10 through 22 (i.e. the plane ride). ---
**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2006, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-5-11-00am-12-00noon/341263/91 "2006-01-25T04:46:42Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > I just love how Jack Bauer fakes his own death yet decides to live within an hour of CTU. Haven’t you read _The Purloined Letter_? They’ll never look somewhere that obvious. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2006, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-5-11-00am-12-00noon/341263/92 "2006-01-25T06:38:52Z")
> [@c\_goat](#): > > Heh, I love how a cracked rib is only a minor annoyance. That’s not an annoyance. It’s something Jack can rip out of himself and use to stab a bad guy. ---
**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2006, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-5-11-00am-12-00noon/341263/93 "2006-01-25T06:48:41Z")
> [@c\_goat](#): > > Heh, I love how a cracked rib is only a minor annoyance. Come on, This is Jack Bauer. Jack’s been dead…twice. And the first time, he killed 5 people withen minutes of coming back to life. And he was in a plane crash that killed pretty much everyone else on board, but he completely recovered 15 minutes later. And he managed to shake a heroin addiction withen 12 hours. A Bullet wound is a minor annoyance to Jack. A cracked rib doesn’t even register on his pain meter. Maybe if you cut his hand off, it might cause problems, but he’d probably just dismiss it as a “flesh wound”. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2006, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-5-11-00am-12-00noon/341263/94 "2006-01-25T06:51:52Z")
Oh, and big gaping plot holes: 1. Mrs. Logan’s assistant knew that she had the paper. She told WAALT. Then Mrs. Logan mysteriously passes out, and paper is gone. Ya think WAALLT would just assume she won’t talk? Why hasn’t she talked? 2. Okay, so Spenser For Hire thinks he’s working for the White House. He lets supposed repairman in to CTU on orders from WAALLT. Jack winds up dead. Ya think Spenser isn’t going to go to management with this? Walt essentially outed himself by telling the gullible young Spenser to let in his assassin, whether he was successful or not. Therefore, Assassin should have killed young Spenser in the Mole Room. ---
**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2006, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-5-11-00am-12-00noon/341263/95 "2006-01-25T06:56:10Z")
> [@Sam Stone](#): > > Therefore, Assassin should have killed young Spenser in the Mole Room. It could be that the assassin was planning to kill Spenser… but only after killing Jack. Killing Jack would be the primary mission, after all. Why risk calling attention to one’s presence by committing another act of violence on the premises? ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2006, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-5-11-00am-12-00noon/341263/96 "2006-01-25T14:07:39Z")
> [@Slacker](#): > > Haven’t you read _The Purloined Letter_? They’ll never look somewhere that obvious. 😃 Forget looking…Bauer still goes outside right? How about accidently running into Buchannan or Edger at the mall or something? ---
**Author:** ![c\_goat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@c\_goat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/c_goat)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2006, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-5-11-00am-12-00noon/341263/97 "2006-01-25T14:57:30Z")
> [@HPL](#): > > Come on, This is Jack Bauer. Jack’s been dead…twice. And the first time, he killed 5 people withen minutes of coming back to life. > > And he was in a plane crash that killed pretty much everyone else on board, but he completely recovered 15 minutes later. > > And he managed to shake a heroin addiction withen 12 hours. > > A Bullet wound is a minor annoyance to Jack. A cracked rib doesn’t even register on his pain meter. > > Maybe if you cut his hand off, it might cause problems, but he’d probably just dismiss it as a “flesh wound”. Totally. That’s what I meant. Not that I didn’t believe that a cracked rib wouldn’t bother him, but that I love how he such a badass that it doesn’t. Lets not forget the self-inflicted stab wound from last season. ---
**Author:** ![Shadowfyre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfyre/32/9972_2.png) [@Shadowfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shadowfyre)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2006, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-5-11-00am-12-00noon/341263/98 "2006-01-25T15:50:50Z")
> [@JThunder](#): > > It could be that the assassin was planning to kill Spenser… but only after killing Jack. Killing Jack would be the primary mission, after all. Why risk calling attention to one’s presence by committing another act of violence on the premises? But he did kill someone else before he tried to kill Jack, the doctor that he was impersonating. He took a risk that no one would come and check on Tony before he had gotten to Jack, why not take the chance and kill Spencer and hide his body in case Spencer went to his bosses before the assasin could kill him. The primary mission may have been to kill Jack, but most importantly he should have covered his connection to Waaaaaalt. As long as Spencer is still alive, Waaaaalt has to know there is a possibility of being found out. ---
**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2006, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-5-11-00am-12-00noon/341263/99 "2006-01-25T16:17:34Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > Forget looking…Bauer still goes outside right? How about accidently running into Buchannan or Edger at the mall or something? Unless there’s a Best Buy, I don’t see Edgar as much of a mallrat. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2006, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-5-11-00am-12-00noon/341263/100 "2006-01-25T16:31:01Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > How about accidently running into Buchannan or Edger at the mall or something? They wouldn’t recognize him in the hard hat. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-5-11-00am-12-00noon/341263.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-5-11-00am-12-00noon/341263.md?page=6)