# 24: Season 5: Episode 8 (2:00pm - 3:00pm) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 13, 2006, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-8-2-00pm-3-00pm/344361 "2006-02-13T23:10:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-8-2-00pm-3-00pm/344361/41 "2006-02-14T16:06:55Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > Rescuing the little girl seemed way contrived. As in, what a convenient way to show us that crazy Jack still cares. Not to sound cruel, but they should’ve let her die. There’s nothing scarier than Jack when he’s pissed. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-8-2-00pm-3-00pm/344361/42 "2006-02-14T16:10:17Z")
> [@Zeldar](#): > > I almost turned it off at this point. It is too late to try to convince the namby-pambies that Jack has a soft side. And funny how Jack was willing to let so many ugly adults die, but once he saw a cute little girl… Lucky for her, I guess, that there wasn’t a puppy store nearby. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-8-2-00pm-3-00pm/344361/43 "2006-02-14T16:21:19Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > And funny how Jack was willing to let so many ugly adults die, but once he saw a cute little girl… > > Lucky for her, I guess, that there wasn’t a puppy store nearby. Or some goldfish! Does nerve gas go underwater? ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-8-2-00pm-3-00pm/344361/44 "2006-02-14T16:50:31Z")
> [@Cluricaun](#): > > I guess they just don’t make nerve gas like they used to. I thought that most nerve gasses would also work through the skin, rendering the gas masks rather useless. They do, but that requires a more prolonged exposure and at higher doses, from what I understand. The main danger is through inhalation. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-8-2-00pm-3-00pm/344361/45 "2006-02-14T16:55:49Z")
You know, if I had some deadly nerve gas that I was trying to open with the high tech electronic device, I’d probably wait more than 3 seconds after it didn’t seem to work to take off my gas mask. Maybe there’s a built-in 5 second delay or something. I’m suspicious about FLOTUS’s little hottie, too, but I’m thinking more along the lines that she might turn out to be a “saves the day” type in the end. Even for _24_, it would be over the top to have the POTUS’s top aid and the FLOTUS’s top aid be moles. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-8-2-00pm-3-00pm/344361/46 "2006-02-14T17:05:08Z")
> [@John Mace](#): > > I’m suspicious about FLOTUS’s little hottie, too, but I’m thinking more along the lines that she might turn out to be a “saves the day” type in the end. Even for _24_, it would be over the top to have the POTUS’s top aid(e) and the FLOTUS’s top aid(e) be moles. Last season, in twenty-four hours, we had a terrorist train wreck, the kidnapping of the Secretary of Defense, the theft of a stealth fighter to shoot down Air Force One, an EMP explosion in LA, and a nuclear meltdown. Yet you think that two moles in the White House inner staff is too much for _24_. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-8-2-00pm-3-00pm/344361/47 "2006-02-14T17:30:02Z")
And I see President Palmer has faked his death so he could join up with a former Terminator rescued from a smelting plant (in LA) to save the country as a covert operations unit. He’s so crafty… ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-8-2-00pm-3-00pm/344361/48 "2006-02-14T17:43:22Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > Not to hijack the thread, but I need some advice on committing a crime: If I want to steal a car, I pull off the panel under the steering column, right? And then a batch of wires will fall out, and two will be conveniently available and stripped? A yellow one and a red one? So, touch them together to start the car? Yes, but remember that you have to break the side window with your elbow first. > [@Finagle](#): > > Anyone else think that Jack is pretty spry for a guy who’s been knocked out and has a few cracked ribs? Cracked ribs are piddly squat for Jack… a guy who walked away from a plane crash, pulling a long piece of shrapnel out of his leg, and still kicked some ass… a guy who was tasered, burned with acid, electroshocked to death then revived, and then shot up with Agony Medicine[sup]TM[/sup] – and ended that day with a kickboxing match at the coliseum concourse. And a few cracked ribs are going to slow him down? heh… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-8-2-00pm-3-00pm/344361/49 "2006-02-14T17:47:30Z")
> [@kidchameleon](#): > > And I see President Palmer has faked his death so he could join up with a former Terminator rescued from a smelting plant (in LA) to save the country as a covert operations unit. He’s so crafty… **Ivan Yellowtieonovich** : “But you’re supposed to be dead! You have a gaping hole in your neck!” **David Palmer** : “No I haven’t!” **Ivan Yellowtieonovich** : “You’re gushing blood!” **David Palmer** : “It’s just a flesh wound…! Have at you, then!” ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-8-2-00pm-3-00pm/344361/50 "2006-02-14T17:54:40Z")
I know it would be blasphemy, and likely force the retirement of the franchise, but I think the writers for _24_ could outdo _Twin Peaks_ if in the last 60 minutes they had President Poofy Pants and First Lady Cleavage peel back their heads and reveal that they are actually the Snake People from _V_ and thereby reveal that they have been moles all along. And Jack could kill them with a can of Raid. And Edgar could do his John Belushi bit and do a whole series of backward handsprings across the floor. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-8-2-00pm-3-00pm/344361/51 "2006-02-14T17:55:52Z")
> [@Zeldar](#): > > I know it would be blasphemy, and likely force the retirement of the franchise, but I think the writers for _24_ could outdo _Twin Peaks_ if in the last 60 minutes they had President Poofy Pants and First Lady Cleavage peel back their heads and reveal that they are actually the Snake People from _V_ and thereby reveal that they have been moles all along. > > And Jack could kill them with a can of Raid. And Edgar could do his John Belushi bit and do a whole series of backward handsprings across the floor. Stop. Giving. Them. Ideas! ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-8-2-00pm-3-00pm/344361/52 "2006-02-14T17:57:53Z")
> [@Monstre](#): > > Yes, but remember that you have to break the side window with your elbow first. D’oh! The other day I was trying to hotwire a car, but it was as if some invisible force field was preventing me from reaching the easily detachable dashboard. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-8-2-00pm-3-00pm/344361/53 "2006-02-14T18:09:35Z")
> [@Monstre](#): > > a guy who walked away from a plane crash, pulling a long piece of shrapnel out of his leg, A mere wooden stick, a toothpick, a veritable splinter. His strength and courage was in not needing tweezers to find and remove it. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-8-2-00pm-3-00pm/344361/54 "2006-02-14T18:11:29Z")
> [@Monstre](#): > > Cracked ribs are piddly squat for Jack… a guy who walked away from a plane crash, pulling a long piece of shrapnel out of his leg, and still kicked some ass… a guy who was tasered, burned with acid Nitpick: he was burned with a soldering iron, not acid. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-8-2-00pm-3-00pm/344361/55 "2006-02-14T18:29:32Z")
> [@RikWriter](#): > > Nitpick: he was burned with a soldering iron, not acid. Actually, what I remembered was when Stark was dipping a scalpel in something and then cutting Jack with it. I thought it was acid, but according to the [episode guide](http://www.fox.com/24/episodes/season2/2am.htm), it was ammonia. Then he burned him with a cauterizer afterwards. I guess those items make more sense, given that they were inside the medical clinic. ---
**Author:** ![Greywolf73](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d9b06d/32.png) [@Greywolf73](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greywolf73)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-8-2-00pm-3-00pm/344361/56 "2006-02-14T19:04:50Z")
At least we did get a trademark Jack exclamation of “DAMMIT!” this episode, when he saw that the lone, doomed-from-the-start-even-if-he-did-get-away-and-is-the-fastest-car-hotwirer -guy-ever terrorist had shot himself. Now we just need a “OR MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WILL DIE!!” this season to balance it all out. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-8-2-00pm-3-00pm/344361/57 "2006-02-14T19:15:24Z")
Is it just me, or do the closeups of Pres. Weakandwimpy remind you of the Larry David look he gets when he’s not sure whether he’s being lied to or not? In almost every shot where Pres is sizing up whoever is advising him at the moment he has this almost childlike expression of “You wouldn’t be shitting me now, would you?” mixed with “Can I have some of your cookies?” ---
**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-8-2-00pm-3-00pm/344361/58 "2006-02-14T19:46:21Z")
> [@Monstre](#): > > Cracked ribs are piddly squat for Jack… a guy who walked away from a plane crash, pulling a long piece of shrapnel out of his leg, and still kicked some ass… a guy who was tasered, burned with acid, electroshocked to death then revived, and then shot up with Agony Medicine[sup]TM[/sup] – and ended that day with a kickboxing match at the coliseum concourse. …and a little thumb wiggle’s supposed to make me happy? Mmm? ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-8-2-00pm-3-00pm/344361/59 "2006-02-14T22:08:29Z")
> [@Troy McClure SF](#): > > …and a little thumb wiggle’s supposed to make me happy? Mmm? Now if only Jack had a wheelbarrow, that would be something… ---
**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2006, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-8-2-00pm-3-00pm/344361/60 "2006-02-14T22:54:14Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > And funny how Jack was willing to let so many ugly adults die, but once he saw a cute little girl… > > Lucky for her, I guess, that there wasn’t a puppy store nearby. I was wondering last night if he wasn’t going to start running back and forth rescuing people, kind of like PeeWee in the Pet Store in “PeeWee’s Big Adventure”. And I agree with the person who said it felt contrived. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-8-2-00pm-3-00pm/344361.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episode-8-2-00pm-3-00pm/344361.md?page=4)