# 24: Season 5: Episodes 1-2 (7:00am - 9:00am) Season Premiere! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 16, 2006, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episodes-1-2-7-00am-9-00am-season-premiere/340172 "2006-01-16T01:14:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Just1Lurk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c0e974/32.png) [@Just1Lurk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just1Lurk)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2006, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episodes-1-2-7-00am-9-00am-season-premiere/340172/121 "2006-01-16T18:25:51Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by **HPL** : > Well, to be fair, last season we also saw Iowa, which in the 24 universe is apparently infested with terrorists and covered with mountains. Well, obviously the nuclear explosion from Season 2 changed the geography of the mid-west. šŸ˜› ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2006, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episodes-1-2-7-00am-9-00am-season-premiere/340172/122 "2006-01-16T18:27:14Z")
> [@HPL](#): > > Well, to be fair, last season we also saw Iowa, which in the 24 universe is apparently infested with terrorists and covered with mountains. ā€œIn the background there is my favorite mountain in Illinois.ā€ -Crow, MST3K -Joe, NERD ---
**Author:** ![mazinger\_z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5f9b8f/32.png) [@mazinger\_z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mazinger_z)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2006, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episodes-1-2-7-00am-9-00am-season-premiere/340172/123 "2006-01-16T18:27:50Z")
> [@bouv](#): > > Six? I counted five. Palmer, Michelle, the terrorist Jakc killed with a knife, terrorist in the car, and the terrorist that gave him the information. Everything I wanted to say has been said already. However, there were two people in the car (two got into the car to search for Jack), and Jack killed them both, only the camera confirmed one. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2006, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episodes-1-2-7-00am-9-00am-season-premiere/340172/124 "2006-01-16T18:43:17Z")
Another great line I almost forgot about, from Martha Loganā€¦ ā€œMike, dammit, I am the First Lady! Tell your stormtrooper to stay away from me!ā€ ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2006, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episodes-1-2-7-00am-9-00am-season-premiere/340172/125 "2006-01-16T19:05:20Z")
> [@want2know](#): > > I agree that thereā€™s something very fishy about Spencer, and I think Edgar will uncover it in the next few hours. I agree, and not just because thereā€™s a new mole in the office every year. Spencer just had a one-night stand with Chloe. If he wasnā€™t screwed up before, Iā€™m sure he is now. Incidentally, and I know this has been discussed before, why does Chloe seem more attractive ever year? Is it just because sheā€™s the only woman who is consistently around? Have we just grown accustomed to her face (or that face sheā€™s always making)? ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2006, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episodes-1-2-7-00am-9-00am-season-premiere/340172/126 "2006-01-16T19:08:47Z")
> [@mazinger\_z](#): > > Everything I wanted to say has been said already. However, there were two people in the car (two got into the car to search for Jack), and Jack killed them both, only the camera confirmed one. Yes, there were definitely 4 baddies on the site when the car and van arrived at the site where Jack landed the chopper. Two in the van (sunglasses and baldie), and two random henchmen in the black car. So definitely 4 kills for Jack in the first hour. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2006, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episodes-1-2-7-00am-9-00am-season-premiere/340172/127 "2006-01-16T19:12:59Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Incidentally, and I know this has been discussed before, why does Chloe seem more attractive ever year? Is it just because sheā€™s the only woman who is consistently around? Have we just grown accustomed to her face (or that face sheā€™s always making)? Well, in season 3, she was snarky and annoying and always copping an attitude towards the people we liked ā€“ such as Jack and Tony. But in season 4, she was helping Jack, and her snarkiness became more fun, as it was directed at the people we **didnā€™t** like ā€“ Driscoll, and that other brunette in the office (forgot her name), etc. In season 3, I couldnā€™t wait for her to die. But in season 4, I really liked her smart-ass comments towards the other more irritating CTU characters ā€“ so she started becoming more likeable. ---
**Author:** ![BobT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e8cbc/32.png) [@BobT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobT)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2006, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episodes-1-2-7-00am-9-00am-season-premiere/340172/128 "2006-01-16T19:19:20Z")
If Kim were supposed to reappear in Episode 7 that would make her reappearance conveniently coming during sweeps wouldnā€™t it? But I think the hardcore fans have fallen for Chloe instead. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2006, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episodes-1-2-7-00am-9-00am-season-premiere/340172/129 "2006-01-16T20:07:35Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Incidentally, and I know this has been discussed before, why does Chloe seem more attractive ever year? Is it just because sheā€™s the only woman who is consistently around? Have we just grown accustomed to her face (or that face sheā€™s always making)? I think **Monstre** ā€™s got the character adjustment down exactly so. ā€¦but that face sheā€™s always making gets my motor running for some reason. I think itā€™s because itā€™s vaguely coital. > [@want2know](#): > > I canā€™t wait to find out how the leader of the terrorists (OMG was that Nick Knight?) found out Jack was still alive. > > Orā€¦did he _not_ know, and was he trying to create the diversion by pinning Palmerā€™s assassination on someone everyone thinks is dead, confusing CTU long enough to put his plan in motion? Someone had to know, because (apart from Palmer,) Michelle, Tony, and Chloe were the only people who knew he was alive and they were all targeted within the hour. According the the Magic Djinn at CTU, the only thing they had in common was that they all called Jackā€™s cell shortly before he was ā€œkilled.ā€ ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2006, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episodes-1-2-7-00am-9-00am-season-premiere/340172/130 "2006-01-16T20:13:58Z")
> [@Larry Mudd](#): > > ā€¦but that face sheā€™s always making gets my motor running for some reason. The actress has two expressions: One of them is ā€œThis Smells Like Sour Milkā€, and the other one isnā€™t. ---
**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2006, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episodes-1-2-7-00am-9-00am-season-premiere/340172/131 "2006-01-16T20:55:51Z")
> [@want2know](#): > > Well, 2 hours into the day, and we already have our first ā€œteenager-does-something-stupidā€ moment! Not that it was unexpectedā€“Iā€™ve learned by now that every time we have a young character, he/she will inevitably inject themselves into a life-threatening situation. > > Still, great start to the season. I canā€™t wait to find out how the leader of the terrorists (OMG was _that_ Nick Knight?) found out Jack was still alive. Well, in the Season 5 prelude, Chloe tells Jack that she caught someone in her computer files trying to dig up information on his autopsy. I guess they figured out that Jack Bauer didnā€™t look anything like that Chinese guy who Jack kidnapped last season. ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2006, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episodes-1-2-7-00am-9-00am-season-premiere/340172/132 "2006-01-16T21:18:46Z")
> [@HPL](#): > > Well, in the Season 5 prelude, Chloe tells Jack that she caught someone in her computer files trying to dig up information on his autopsy. I guess they figured out that Jack Bauer didnā€™t look anything like that Chinese guy who Jack kidnapped last season. Did they run it through a high resolution filter? ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2006, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episodes-1-2-7-00am-9-00am-season-premiere/340172/133 "2006-01-16T21:23:25Z")
I donā€™t know if anyone has brought this up, but rather than clearing his name by some obscure plan to break into the presidentā€™s brotherā€™s apartment which is swarming with FBI agents, couldnā€™t Jack have just turned himself in and brought his girlfriend and her son in to alibi him? Not to menition the dozen or so people who saw him at the job site when he didnā€™t get day labor. ā€¦must turn back on my willing suspension of disbelief nowā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2006, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episodes-1-2-7-00am-9-00am-season-premiere/340172/134 "2006-01-16T21:35:11Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > I donā€™t know if anyone has brought this up, but rather than clearing his name by some obscure plan to break into the presidentā€™s brotherā€™s apartment which is swarming with FBI agents, couldnā€™t Jack have just turned himself in and brought his girlfriend and her son in to alibi him? Not to menition the dozen or so people who saw him at the job site when he didnā€™t get day labor. > > ā€¦must turn back on my willing suspension of disbelief nowā€¦ Sure, but then you get a bunch of people trying to kill him! See, either heā€™s wanted by the (competent) Evil Shadow Government or by the (incompetent) Misguided Legitemate Government. Whatā€™s that line from one of the ā€œStainless Steel Ratā€ books? Something along the lines of ā€œI knew I could handle a dozen cops without breaking a sweat, but a squad of the dictatorā€™s corrupt secret police was a whole different matterā€. -Joe, paraphrasing super-heavily ---
**Author:** ![cbawlmer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@cbawlmer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cbawlmer)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2006, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episodes-1-2-7-00am-9-00am-season-premiere/340172/135 "2006-01-16T21:37:40Z")
Wow, weā€™re already going to need a new thread for tonightā€™s installment. I wish theyā€™d run the whole season over the next two weeks. šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2006, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episodes-1-2-7-00am-9-00am-season-premiere/340172/136 "2006-01-16T21:53:07Z")
> [@Mr. Blue Sky](#): > > ā€œRelax. Heā€™s really good at this.ā€ > > šŸ˜ƒ ā€“ I think. A classic line ā€¦ to follow the other classic ā€œI have a feeling its going to be another one of those daysā€ by Palmer. ((Or something similar)) Im just confused about how BOTH Jack and Derek got out of the vanā€¦ with out being noticed. I Figured just before the apprehension of Chloe that Jack wasnt in the van. Howeverā€¦ When Nearly the entire perimieter of the van is surroundedā€¦ HOW can they get out? 24 Remains some of the best TV around. Howeverā€¦ ā€œEvents occur in real timeā€ Seems to be a fading memory. For this reason aloneā€¦ Season 1 will remain the best season of 24 ever. Alsoā€¦ How can we have 20 more hoursā€¦ on the current plot!!! Oh well. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2006, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episodes-1-2-7-00am-9-00am-season-premiere/340172/137 "2006-01-16T21:53:37Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > I donā€™t know if anyone has brought this up, but rather than clearing his name by some obscure plan to break into the presidentā€™s brotherā€™s apartment which is swarming with FBI agents, couldnā€™t Jack have just turned himself in and brought his girlfriend and her son in to alibi him? Not to menition the dozen or so people who saw him at the job site when he didnā€™t get day labor. I figured thatā€™s why he told them to go to CTU- theyā€™d be safe there and could vouch for him. But he canā€™t turn himself in. Heā€™d have to face hours of questioning and bullshitā€¦ well, anyway, heā€™d need to go to the trouble of escaping _again_, and heā€™s got to find out who killed Palmer and Michelle and framed him, and why. Plus, heā€™s in a hurry. Itā€™s a well-known fact that people at CTU who outrank Jack exist only to slow him down. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2006, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episodes-1-2-7-00am-9-00am-season-premiere/340172/138 "2006-01-16T22:49:47Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > I donā€™t know if anyone has brought this up, but rather than clearing his name by some obscure plan to break into the presidentā€™s brotherā€™s apartment which is swarming with FBI agents, couldnā€™t Jack have just turned himself in and brought his girlfriend and her son in to alibi him? Not to menition the dozen or so people who saw him at the job site when he didnā€™t get day labor. Iā€™m sure they will be able to provide his alibi, assuming they donā€™t get themselves killed before they can get to safety. Meanwhile, Jack canā€™t be bothered with things like sitting in a holding cell and being questioned ā€“ it just takes too long and meanwhile the terrorists would get away with their evil deeds, andā€¦ [Jack]I canā€™t let that happenā€¦[/Jack] ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2006, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episodes-1-2-7-00am-9-00am-season-premiere/340172/139 "2006-01-16T22:58:58Z")
> [@Monstre](#): > > Iā€™m sure they will be able to provide his alibi, assuming they donā€™t get themselves killed before they can get to safety. Meanwhile, Jack canā€™t be bothered with things like sitting in a holding cell and being questioned ā€“ it just takes too long and meanwhile the terrorists would get away with their evil deeds, andā€¦ > > [Jack]I canā€™t let that happenā€¦[/Jack] And I wanna meet the guy who thinks he can get Jack to talk. Los Angeles isnā€™t big enough to hold those balls. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2006, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episodes-1-2-7-00am-9-00am-season-premiere/340172/140 "2006-01-16T23:05:19Z")
> [@Mr. Blue Sky](#): > > And I wanna meet the guy who thinks he can get Jack to talk. Los Angeles isnā€™t big enough to hold those balls. Should one manage to catch him, it would just require the above and some bolt cutters. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episodes-1-2-7-00am-9-00am-season-premiere/340172.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episodes-1-2-7-00am-9-00am-season-premiere/340172.md?page=8)