# 24: Season 5: Episodes 1-2 (7:00am - 9:00am) Season Premiere! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 16, 2006, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episodes-1-2-7-00am-9-00am-season-premiere/340172 "2006-01-16T01:14:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2006, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episodes-1-2-7-00am-9-00am-season-premiere/340172/141 "2006-01-16T23:05:19Z")
> [@Mr. Blue Sky](#): > > And I wanna meet the guy who thinks he can get Jack to talk. Los Angeles isn’t big enough to hold those balls. Well, there’s always Johnson, the guy with the briefcase full of pain. ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2006, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episodes-1-2-7-00am-9-00am-season-premiere/340172/142 "2006-01-16T23:12:21Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > Im just confused about how BOTH Jack and Derek got out of the van… with out being noticed. > > I Figured just before the apprehension of Chloe that Jack wasnt in the van. > > However… When Nearly the entire perimieter of the van is surrounded… HOW can they get out? The van wasn’t surrounded. They had the building surrounded, and a bunch of cops in the basement, but they didn’t know that Jack was in the van. They just knew that he was somewhere in the basement. ---
**Author:** ![5que](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/3bc359/32.png) [@5que](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5que)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2006, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episodes-1-2-7-00am-9-00am-season-premiere/340172/143 "2006-01-16T23:22:03Z")
> [@Finagle](#): > > he has his emergency case of spy goodies (day laborers can afford smoke bombs?) Oh, don’t be silly. It was a rescue helicopter and Jack pulled the smoke bombs from a kit in the copter. That’s obviously why he picked that helicopter, rather than all the others sitting around the oil fields – and didn’t drive his smoke-bombless truck into town. Anyhow, does anyone else remember the guy who shot Palmer from _China Beach_? Yes, I’m old. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2006, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episodes-1-2-7-00am-9-00am-season-premiere/340172/144 "2006-01-16T23:28:50Z")
I re-watched them today. I think somebody already mentioned the body count of the first hour being 6 (Palmer, Michelle, and the 4 baddies at the abandoned refinery). I think the body count on the 2nd hour (at least “for sure body count”) is just 3. Chevinsky (suicide) and two security guards at the airport, who were definitely shot in the airport takeover. I suppose there could have been some others, but I didn’t see any explicitly (same with the bomb in the truck). Anybody notice an explicit one other than these? Oh, and [the new thread for tonight’s episodes](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=354436) is up. ---
**Author:** ![cbawlmer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@cbawlmer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cbawlmer)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2006, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episodes-1-2-7-00am-9-00am-season-premiere/340172/145 "2006-01-16T23:48:50Z")
> [@5que](#): > > Anyhow, does anyone else remember the guy who shot Palmer from _China Beach_? Yes, I’m old. No, but I remember both characters he played on _Buffy_. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2006, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episodes-1-2-7-00am-9-00am-season-premiere/340172/146 "2006-01-16T23:50:52Z")
> [@5que](#): > > Oh, don’t be silly. It was a rescue helicopter and Jack pulled the smoke bombs from a kit in the copter. Why would a rescue helicopter crew need screening smoke grenades? They came from the travelling bag that Jack kept hidden in the wall behind the tallboy at his ol’ lady’s place for just such an emergency. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episodes-1-2-7-00am-9-00am-season-premiere/340172/147 "2006-01-17T00:21:32Z")
> [@Larry Mudd](#): > > Why would a rescue helicopter crew need screening smoke grenades? To mark things so that they may be seen from the air. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episodes-1-2-7-00am-9-00am-season-premiere/340172/148 "2006-01-17T00:27:43Z")
Well, that makes sense. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![MrsMonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e8cbc/32.png) [@MrsMonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrsMonkey)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episodes-1-2-7-00am-9-00am-season-premiere/340172/149 "2006-01-17T15:04:53Z")
> [@Merijeek](#): > > Oh yeah, and potential major plot hole I’m hoping they’ll cover… > > Who else knew that Jack was alive? After all, there had to be a fifth person (presumably an evil one) to hatch the scheme. Said person had to know that Jack was alive and had to know which four other people knew about Jack. > > So, is this a potential hole, or did I miss something? > > -Joe Didn’t Bill and Audrey discuss that Palmer, Tony, Michelle, and Chloe had all “talked” on the day that Jack had died. Maybe someone else got those phone records and pieced it together? Quite a leap though… ---
**Author:** ![flex727](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/258eb7/32.png) [@flex727](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flex727)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2006, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episodes-1-2-7-00am-9-00am-season-premiere/340172/150 "2006-01-18T21:45:47Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > If they gave a legit IP address, it would be hit like a pinata full of crack. 🙂 Don’t you think they missed a good opportunity, a la Lost, to create a fake 24 web site? Lost has [Hansofoundation.org](http://Hansofoundation.org), [oceanic-air.com](http://oceanic-air.com), and others that ABC uses to build hype for the show. This situation just begged for a real IP address and Fox-owned web site. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2006, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episodes-1-2-7-00am-9-00am-season-premiere/340172/151 "2006-01-19T03:06:20Z")
> [@flex727](#): > > Don’t you think they missed a good opportunity, a la Lost, to create a fake 24 web site? They’ve done that before. ---
**Author:** ![emacknight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ec8ea/32.png) [@emacknight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emacknight)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2006, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episodes-1-2-7-00am-9-00am-season-premiere/340172/152 "2006-01-19T20:50:26Z")
> [@flex727](#): > > Don’t you think they missed a good opportunity, a la Lost, to create a fake 24 web site? Lost has [Hansofoundation.org](http://Hansofoundation.org), [oceanic-air.com](http://oceanic-air.com), and others that ABC uses to build hype for the show. This situation just begged for a real IP address and Fox-owned web site. Don’t forget “I am Oscar, dot com” [www.iamoscar.com](http://www.iamoscar.com) from Arrested Development (site no longer seems to work). ---
**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2006, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episodes-1-2-7-00am-9-00am-season-premiere/340172/153 "2006-01-19T21:49:53Z")
[http://sylviaimports.com/](http://sylviaimports.com/) ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2006, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episodes-1-2-7-00am-9-00am-season-premiere/340172/154 "2006-01-19T23:22:57Z")
> [@emacknight](#): > > Don’t forget “I am Oscar, dot com” [www.iamoscar.com](http://www.iamoscar.com) from Arrested Development (site no longer seems to work). [www.imoscar.com](http://www.imoscar.com) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episodes-1-2-7-00am-9-00am-season-premiere/340172.md?page=7)