# 24: Season 5: Episodes 11-12 (5:00pm - 7:00pm) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 6, 2006, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episodes-11-12-5-00pm-7-00pm/347302 "2006-03-06T22:06:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Plynck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Plynck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plynck)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episodes-11-12-5-00pm-7-00pm/347302/101 "2006-03-07T18:36:30Z")
> [@HPL](#): > > Jack: “I just wasted 3 hours trying to get that?” > Jack riddles Henderson’s body with bullets for wasting his time. Wouldn’t it be more in character for Jack to riddle _Miriam’s_ body with bullets instead? ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episodes-11-12-5-00pm-7-00pm/347302/102 "2006-03-07T18:36:37Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > In _24_ and _Nikita_, I figure the facility has it’s own repeaters that monitors cell activity, encrypt calls as needed, and prevents the signals of local calls from leaving the building. Didn’t Lynn call his sister from his cell? Also, in the _Nikita_-verse, I don’t believe camera and video-phones were so common that any person could have one. Think of the things that can be photographed/loaded into a single RAZR. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episodes-11-12-5-00pm-7-00pm/347302/103 "2006-03-07T18:44:44Z")
We’re halfway through the day… we still haven’t even found out who found out Jack was alive, have we? They’d better not drop that thread. ---
**Author:** ![cbawlmer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@cbawlmer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cbawlmer)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episodes-11-12-5-00pm-7-00pm/347302/104 "2006-03-07T18:45:17Z")
When Curtis was running through the hospital with the canister, I couldn’t help thinking about the end of Season 3 when the exploding virus thingy was contained inside a teachers’ lounge refrigerator. Surely there were a multitude of large industrial fridges that would have been good enough to temporarily contain the gas. The hamster cage they threw it into inside the van looked less secure than my grandma’s deep freeze. Now that everyone is trapped in enclosed spaces, I hope they al have a chance to break up into small groups and talk about their feelings and gain a new understanding of each other. And yeah, is fresh oxygen pumped into those rooms from a separate source? ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episodes-11-12-5-00pm-7-00pm/347302/105 "2006-03-07T18:48:41Z")
**Skammer** , of course it was Jack’s new squeeze’s son. C’mon, everyone knows that! He, junkie boyfriend and Barry are part of a U.S. Patriot counter-anti-anti-counter terrorist cabal, and are the whole impetus behind the current day. Duh! 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episodes-11-12-5-00pm-7-00pm/347302/106 "2006-03-07T18:53:40Z")
Fearless Prediction: Boyfriend Barry will loudly and indignantly question the morality of every decision made by the team in the Situation Room. You know who I feel bad for after this week? Aaron. The guy comes through with flying colors during the motorcade attack, and what does he get for it? The fruitcake First Lady throws herself at him in front of Mike. I’m thinking that the Secret Service is not going to be too keen on one if its agents having any romantic entanglements with the President’s wife, even if it is completely one sided. My money is on him being quickly re-assigned to the security detail of the US Ambassador to Nepal. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episodes-11-12-5-00pm-7-00pm/347302/107 "2006-03-07T18:55:12Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > You SCUMBAG! Spoiler boxes, dammit! > > I _liked_ Nina… ☹ Well, in 24 time she’s been dead for 3 or 4 years, and in real time she’s been doead for…two or three years. I liked her, too. Anyone who kills someone with a broken-off credit card is quite cool. But she’s dead. Has been for some time. But I will give you one more spoiler almost as fresh… Darth Vader is Luke’s father -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Winston\_Bongo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a9adbd/32.png) [@Winston\_Bongo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winston_Bongo)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episodes-11-12-5-00pm-7-00pm/347302/108 "2006-03-07T18:56:32Z")
I can’t believe more people aren’t in Full Mourning Mode for everybody’s favorite Krispy Kreme-loving computer geek. I \*\*liked \*\* Edgar, dammit! My whole family liked Edgar! When he came around that corner and Chloe actually looked at him with something other than disgust, we all knew he was toast. When he finally collapsed, everyone around the TV erupted in a sorrowful, Darth-Vader-like **NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!** I think it was a real mistake to kill him off . . . he was a unique character. Where else would you see a fat, goofy-looking guy with a lisp who is actually depicted as skilled and competent (hell, he saved the country from nuclear meltdown last season) instead of the bumbling comic relief? Besides, he and Chloe made such a good team. Now it’ll be like . . . Garfield without Odie! I want to print up t-shirts that say **BRING BACK EDGAR . . . OR MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WILL DIE!** ---
**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episodes-11-12-5-00pm-7-00pm/347302/109 "2006-03-07T19:04:39Z")
> [@Winston Bongo](#): > > I can’t believe more people aren’t in Full Mourning Mode for everybody’s favorite Krispy Kreme-loving computer geek. I think we should all say “Mith Drithcoll” quietly to ourselves every time he’s mentioned in the future. It’s the equivalent of pourin’ one out for our homie. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episodes-11-12-5-00pm-7-00pm/347302/110 "2006-03-07T19:06:58Z")
> [@flurb](#): > > My money is on him being quickly re-assigned to the security detail of the US Ambassador to Nepal. A country in the midst of a civil war, versus being in the same city as Jack Bauer. He’s safer in Nepal. Book the flight to Katmandu. ---
**Author:** ![Airblairxxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Airblairxxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airblairxxx)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episodes-11-12-5-00pm-7-00pm/347302/111 "2006-03-07T19:07:11Z")
> [@Mr. Moto](#): > > Did anyone else notice that Elisha Cuthbert had a terrible acne outbreak on her chin with a ton of makeup slathered across it? > > It looked like a flesh colored mountain range. If you can, watch the show in high definition. I noticed that the President of the United States had had three ear piercings, just on his left ear. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_the\_Turtle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_the_turtle/32/2926_2.png) [@Fear\_the\_Turtle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_the_Turtle)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episodes-11-12-5-00pm-7-00pm/347302/112 "2006-03-07T19:11:26Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > But it was a powerful ending. I can take people getting tortured. I can take them getting raped. I can take them getting mutilated, burned alive, electrocuted, blown up, drowned, cut in half, and beamed into a bulkhead. What I can’t abide is people scratching on windows and doors, literally dying to get into a safe place. Freaks me the hell out. If it makes you feel any better, exposure to a real nerve agent would be far messier and there wouldn’t be anyone clawing at windows. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nerve\_gas](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nerve_gas) (of course this is wiki, but it jives with everything I was taught) And Jack can hold his breath til the cows come home, but if his skin is exposed he’s a goner. Of course this is “weaponized” nerve gas (anyone have a clue what regular or “unweaponized” nerve gas is? bug spray?), so I guess anything is possible in 24 World. You’d also think a counter terroist unit would have some atropine laying around! ---
**Author:** ![Cluricaun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Cluricaun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cluricaun)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episodes-11-12-5-00pm-7-00pm/347302/113 "2006-03-07T19:21:55Z")
Ok, so did the Russian president believe President Indecision when he gave up the “secret” about the first lady’s mental problems as the explanation of why she was acting so nervous in the motorcade, or was there more of an attitude of “Yeah, whatever, you’re a liar, prepare for thermonuclear war.” ---
**Author:** ![c\_goat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@c\_goat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/c_goat)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episodes-11-12-5-00pm-7-00pm/347302/114 "2006-03-07T19:27:44Z")
> [@Cluricaun](#): > > Ok, so did the Russian president believe President Indecision when he gave up the “secret” about the first lady’s mental problems as the explanation of why she was acting so nervous in the motorcade, or was there more of an attitude of “Yeah, whatever, you’re a liar, prepare for thermonuclear war.” I don’t think the Russian President believed him at all. He just walked off while President Indecisive was still talking. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episodes-11-12-5-00pm-7-00pm/347302/115 "2006-03-07T19:31:54Z")
> [@Merijeek](#): > > But if whatever didn’t happen shouldn’t not happen again… > > I’m so confused. Did Mike just give Aaron permission to bang Jean Smart? Sounds like a hell of a benefits package. **Aaron** : Yes, sir. Thank you, sir. Right away, sir. > [@](#): > > Curtis - nice run. Now someone explain to me WHY THE HELL THERE ISN’T A PORTABLE CONTAINER? Why did the guys in the zoot suits have to run along in front of Curtis - they seemed to be in his way. Well, it’s like he learned back in college, playing football – follow your blockers. Those guys ahead had to knock down the pregnant women and quadriplegics so that Curtis could get past. > [@](#): > > My thigh won’t fit in a briefcase. **Jack** : Wanna bet? Let’s find out… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episodes-11-12-5-00pm-7-00pm/347302/116 "2006-03-07T19:37:09Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > Didn’t Lynn call his sister from his cell? Sure, but I thought it went through the CTU cell repeaters so they can log it, trace it, and put in an olive. > [@D\_Odds](#): > > Also, in the _Nikita_-verse, I don’t believe camera and video-phones were so common that any person could have one. Think of the things that can be photographed/loaded into a single RAZR. Again, if it goes through CTU’s own cell phone equipment, they can copy/monitor/limit/shake/stir and make the cell phone in question explode if they wish. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episodes-11-12-5-00pm-7-00pm/347302/117 "2006-03-07T19:39:55Z")
> [@Merijeek](#): > > But I will give you one more spoiler almost as fresh… I’m watching it for the first time on A&E. I came on board with day 4, and might knock you overboard some dark night when you take a turn on deck… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episodes-11-12-5-00pm-7-00pm/347302/118 "2006-03-07T19:53:22Z")
> [@mack](#): > > Good idea about Lynn making the ultimate sacrifice. It’s his fault he didn’t tell anybody about the key card. It would be just like him to bluster his way out of it, though. I don’t know what he’d do, besides something stupid like run full speed into a glass partition (“ooof! that’s gonna hurt.”). Next week… **Jack** : I’m going to have to go out there – somebody has to shut off the cannister, so that it stops spewing more gas! _Jack goes out, holds breath, runs through building. Can’t quite make it. Starts to collapse_ **Lynn** : I can’t shut down the cannister for you… But I _can_ carry you! _Lynn carries Jack on his back, into the dark server room_ _Jack approaches the cannister_ **Lynn** : What are you waiting for? Shut it off! _Jack turns back with a mad grimace_ **Jack** : No. It’s mine!!! ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episodes-11-12-5-00pm-7-00pm/347302/119 "2006-03-07T20:05:40Z")
> [@Monstre](#): > > Next week… > > **Jack** : I’m going to have to go out there – somebody has to shut off the cannister, so that it stops spewing more gas! > > _Jack goes out, holds breath, runs through building. Can’t quite make it. Starts to collapse_ > > **Lynn** : I can’t shut down the cannister for you… But I _can_ carry you! > > _Lynn carries Jack on his back, into the dark server room_ > _Jack approaches the cannister_ > > **Lynn** : What are you waiting for? Shut it off! > > _Jack turns back with a mad grimace_ > > **Jack** : No. It’s mine!!! McAliister’s Sweet Tea - tastes great, not so good coming out the nostrils. Poor Edgar. Mith Drithcol? -Joe ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2006, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episodes-11-12-5-00pm-7-00pm/347302/120 "2006-03-07T20:31:10Z")
In past episodes, Jack has been a pretty decent hacker. Anyone else notice how much he forgot in the last episode? “Chloe, I need you to uplink the duct tape schematics of Weiner, Weiner, and Spastich, or MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WILL DIE!” “Jack, there’s a low-level widget inducing premodulator on the server.” “What’s that?” “It’s a virus on the hard drive.” “What’s that?” “It’s where data is stored. I’m going to have to hard boot!” “What’s that?” “It’s when you turn a computer off, then turn it back on with the power button.” “What’s that?” “It’s this round thing you push.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episodes-11-12-5-00pm-7-00pm/347302.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-5-episodes-11-12-5-00pm-7-00pm/347302.md?page=7)