# 24: Season 6: Episode 11 (4:00pm - 5:00pm)

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-11-4-00pm-5-00pm/393784
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [February 26, 2007, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-11-4-00pm-5-00pm/393784 "2007-02-26T22:12:50Z")
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### Author: ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)
#### Post date: [February 27, 2007, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-11-4-00pm-5-00pm/393784/21 "2007-02-27T19:24:34Z")

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[QUOTE=Baracus]  
Did I miss when Jack changed into that spiffy suit at Logan’s place? He didn’t arrive in it, did he?  
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The big question is where he got the duds in the first place. Maybe one of the guards had a spare suit Jack could use (since I don’t think he’s the same size as Logan).

I think Logan’s “ulterior motive” is a simple one: he wants to do what he can to get his wife back. Can he do it in 15 hours or so? Probably not.

And the reason Karen Hayes is taking so long to get back to LA? She probably booked on Jet Blue.

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### Author: ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)
#### Post date: [February 27, 2007, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-11-4-00pm-5-00pm/393784/22 "2007-02-27T19:58:09Z")

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[QUOTE=ArchiveGuy]  
And the reason Karen Hayes is taking so long to get back to LA? She probably booked on Jet Blue.  
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The real answer is that _24_ is supposed to take place in real time. Since each episode covers one hour, this means that it’ll take a few episodes until…

… aw, nuts. I can’t even type that with a straight face.

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### Author: ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)
#### Post date: [February 27, 2007, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-11-4-00pm-5-00pm/393784/23 "2007-02-27T20:03:54Z")

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The thing is, it’ll take her several hours to make her way across the country. But once she lands, she’ll disembark, get her luggage, go home, shower, change clothes, and arrive at CTU in…

You guessed it. Ten minutes.

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### Author: ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)
#### Post date: [February 27, 2007, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-11-4-00pm-5-00pm/393784/24 "2007-02-27T20:50:46Z")

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[QUOTE=JThunder]  
The real answer is that _24_ is supposed to take place in real time. Since each episode covers one hour, this means that it’ll take a few episodes until…

… aw, nuts. I can’t even type that with a straight face.  
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Right, but my initial point in bringing it up was that Assad was leaving L.A. for Washington around the same time that Karen was leaving Washington for L.A.

Assad made it to Washington several hours ago. Karen’s nowhere to be seen. Of course, perhaps she had to take a commercial flight (where Assad got a direct military one), and Karen’s stuck on a runway somewhere, being fed a 5th package of peanuts and bland coffee that tastes like the surly flight attendant’s underpants.

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### Author: ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)
#### Post date: [February 27, 2007, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-11-4-00pm-5-00pm/393784/25 "2007-02-27T20:54:11Z")

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[QUOTE=Baracus]  
As a weapon of mass disruption, those suitcase nukes are probably better used on the ground. Much more radioactive fallout created that way…  
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True, but I wasn’t thinking that they were necessarily going for an air detonation – just use the drones to get the bombs to their location right before detonation. Quicker (and safer for Gredenko) than driving there, trying to plant it in a secret place, arming it, then escaping. Just fly it in, send the drone to the ground, then BOOM.

And **tdn** , you’ll have to find another sucker to take that wager. The odds are too heavily on your side… 😉

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### Author: ![c\_goat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@c\_goat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/c_goat)
#### Post date: [February 27, 2007, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-11-4-00pm-5-00pm/393784/26 "2007-02-27T20:58:42Z")

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[QUOTE=Lakai]  
I hope Wayne Palmer is dead. I can’t stand him. He sucked the life out of the scene where he talks with Logan.  
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Yes, I felt the same way. Stupid Reid. Why not wait until he’s STANDING AT THE PODIUM GIVING HIS SPEECH. What a dumbass. Now he’s going to survive.

It’s a sad state of affairs when I’m rooting for the bad guys.

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### Author: ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)
#### Post date: [February 27, 2007, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-11-4-00pm-5-00pm/393784/27 "2007-02-27T20:59:23Z")

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Just thinking about all the potential terror threats that this show has already exhausted.

Season 1: blowing up a plane and attempted presidential candidate assassination.  
Season 2: a big-ass nuke. That was great.  
Season 3: Flesh-eating virus.  
Season 4: Nuclear reactor meltdowns. And the downing of Air Force 1. Oh, and as an afterthought, a nuclear missile.  
Season 5: Nerve gas.  
Season 6: More nukes – smaller ones, suitcase nukes.

So… I think the writers are running out of weapon ideas.

I’m thinking for season 7, it might be… a giant “LA-SER”.

(Or at least sharks with frickin laser beams attached to their frickin heads…)

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### Author: ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)
#### Post date: [February 28, 2007, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-11-4-00pm-5-00pm/393784/28 "2007-02-28T00:14:51Z")

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Maybe near the end of one season, Jack could start cracking and in the last few episodes, he starts sabotaging CTU and trying to help the bad guys in some form. CTU will be on their own to save LA once again.

The next season could have Jack playing the part of the cold-blooded murderer who the entire world desperately needs now, like Sean Connery in The Rock (or hell, like Assad now).

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### Author: ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)
#### Post date: [February 28, 2007, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-11-4-00pm-5-00pm/393784/29 "2007-02-28T04:33:02Z")

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Chloe gave out a non 555 number, wonder if it goes anywhere.

Brian

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### Author: ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)
#### Post date: [February 28, 2007, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-11-4-00pm-5-00pm/393784/30 "2007-02-28T04:40:21Z")

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[QUOTE=N9IWP]  
Chloe gave out a non 555 number, wonder if it goes anywhere.

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Yeah, you’re right – I noticed that and wondered the same thing at the time. Didn’t try calling it or anything…

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### Author: ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)
#### Post date: [February 28, 2007, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-11-4-00pm-5-00pm/393784/31 "2007-02-28T05:42:51Z")

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[QUOTE=ArchiveGuy]  
I think Logan’s “ulterior motive” is a simple one: he wants to do what he can to get his wife back.  
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The former First Boobs?

😃

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### Author: ![athelas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@athelas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/athelas)
#### Post date: [February 28, 2007, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-11-4-00pm-5-00pm/393784/32 "2007-02-28T13:40:50Z")

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Anyone notice Mrs. Logan’s Crazy Music during the first scene with Logan? Subtle, but nice.

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### Author: ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)
#### Post date: [February 28, 2007, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-11-4-00pm-5-00pm/393784/33 "2007-02-28T13:58:39Z")

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[QUOTE=athelas]  
Anyone notice Mrs. Logan’s Crazy Music during the first scene with Logan? Subtle, but nice.  
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24 has _leitmotif_?

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### Author: ![Enright3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/enright3/32/2897_2.png) [@Enright3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enright3)
#### Post date: [February 28, 2007, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-11-4-00pm-5-00pm/393784/34 "2007-02-28T16:32:06Z")

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I agree with the post above… Wayne Palmer sucks as a president.  
This is my first season back after missing seasons 1 1/2 until now, so I may be saying things thare are already known to be impossible. However; the wife and I think it would be cool if ‘junior’ turned out to be Jack’s son. And Humina Humina Humina, Jack’s sister-in-law (Rena Sofer aka Marilyn Baur) is smokin’ hot IMHO. She’s also Heidi Petrelli on NBC’s Heroes.

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### Author: ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)
#### Post date: [February 28, 2007, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-11-4-00pm-5-00pm/393784/35 "2007-02-28T16:48:41Z")

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[QUOTE=Oslo Ostragoth]  
The former First Boobs?  
😃  
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Which Logan hasn’t gotten to see for a while now.

> [@Enright3](#):
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> I agree with the post above… Wayne Palmer sucks as a president.

I’ve been saying since the end of last season that we should have had President James Heller next. William Devane running the kicking-ass-and-asking-questions-later administration.

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### Author: ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)
#### Post date: [February 28, 2007, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-11-4-00pm-5-00pm/393784/36 "2007-02-28T17:17:55Z")

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Turns out the phone numer (310)597-3781 has shown up before on 24.

[http://www.tv.com/day-4-1100-a.m.-1200-p.m./episode/384942/summary.html](http://www.tv.com/day-4-1100-a.m.-1200-p.m./episode/384942/summary.html)

> [@](#):
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> A valid California phone number can clearly be seen on Debbie’s cell phone caller ID (310-597-3781.) Many fans called this number, which turned out to be a live line to a prop phone on the set of the show. Some fans got a voice mail message telling them that they called the 24 prop phone and to leave a message. Others talked to live people, including Production Designer Joseph Hodges.

[http://www.tv.com/24/day-5-1200-am---100-am/episode/664094/summary.html](http://www.tv.com/24/day-5-1200-am---100-am/episode/664094/summary.html)

> [@](#):
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> When Martha Logan calls Aaron Pierce, the number 310-597-3781 is displayed, which is the 24 fan phone, introduced in Season 4.

Brian

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### Author: ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)
#### Post date: [February 28, 2007, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-11-4-00pm-5-00pm/393784/37 "2007-02-28T17:28:19Z")

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If you call it now (sue me, I’m bored), the message is in Spanish, with a brief announcement “Nextel phone for 24”.

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### Author: ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)
#### Post date: [February 28, 2007, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-11-4-00pm-5-00pm/393784/38 "2007-02-28T17:34:52Z")

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_Scrubs_ has a fan phone, too, that appeared in an episode- (916) CALL-TURK.

> **[555 (telephone number)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/555_telephone_number)**
>
> The telephone number prefix 555 is a central office code in the North American Numbering Plan, used as the leading part of a group of 10,000 telephone numbers, 555-XXXX, in each numbering plan area (NPA) (area code). It has traditionally been used only for the provision of directory assistance, when dialing NPA-555-1212.
> The central office code is also used for fictitious telephone numbers in North American television shows, films, video games, and other media in order to prevent practical joker...

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### Author: ![want2know](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/50afbb/32.png) [@want2know](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/want2know)
#### Post date: [February 28, 2007, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-11-4-00pm-5-00pm/393784/39 "2007-02-28T18:05:11Z")

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[QUOTE=Lakai]  
I hope Wayne Palmer is dead. I can’t stand him. He sucked the life out of the scene where he talks with Logan.  
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I disagree. Earlier in the day, I was irritated at his indecisiveness, but in the last couple of hours he seems to be showing some strength and leadership. The conversation with Logan was quite effective in showing that.

I think Logan does have an ulterior motive, but I don’t think it has anything to do with his wife. The “standing on a rock” Bible quote could demonstrate Logan’s intention to see the country destroyed with him being the sole survivor. In any case, I think we’ll soon see that he’s definitely gone off the deep end.

Re Morris: Yeah, great gesture. Two whole swallows left in the bottle, and _now_ he decides to pour it down the drain!

BTW, idea for a new drinking game: a shot every time Chloe says, “Fine!” 😃

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### Author: ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)
#### Post date: [February 28, 2007, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-11-4-00pm-5-00pm/393784/40 "2007-02-28T18:17:30Z")

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[QUOTE=want2know]

BTW, idea for a new drinking game: a shot every time Chloe says, “Fine!” 😃  
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Excellent!

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