# 24: Season 6: Episode 17 (10:00pm - 11:00pm)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 9, 2007, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-17-10-00pm-11-00pm/399377 "2007-04-09T21:39:33Z")\
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**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2007, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-17-10-00pm-11-00pm/399377/21 "2007-04-10T14:08:00Z")

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[QUOTE=StarvingButStrong]  
For that matter, what happened to Granpa Bauer and Jack’s son/nephew? And has the kids mother just been sitting around calmly somewhere for the past, oh, eight hours, confident that Jack will eventually get around to saving him?  
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Jack left HOT Rena Sofer and her son safely in CTU’s care several hours ago.

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**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2007, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-17-10-00pm-11-00pm/399377/22 "2007-04-10T14:30:59Z")

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[QUOTE=Big Bad Voodoo Lou]  
Jack left HOT Rena Sofer and her son safely in CTU’s care several hours ago.  
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Oh, right, right. :smack:

But what about Grandpa? He’s still out on the wind, right?

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**Author:** ![ChuckForbin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecb155/32.png) [@ChuckForbin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChuckForbin)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2007, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-17-10-00pm-11-00pm/399377/23 "2007-04-10T15:25:18Z")

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[QUOTE=StarvingButStrong]  
Oh, right, right. :smack:

But what about Grandpa? He’s still out on the wind, right?  
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I wouldn’t be surprised if Grampa is part of the Chinese Connection. He may end up being a hero. Also - Audrey is no doubt being held about 10 minutes from CTU.

"Damn, Jack. "  
This week almost makes up for the limited body count so far. “Say hello to your brother”. Classic.

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**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2007, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-17-10-00pm-11-00pm/399377/24 "2007-04-10T16:30:21Z")

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[QUOTE=ChuckForbin]  
“Say hello to your brother”. Classic.  
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It would have been even better with “and mine” added on the end of that.

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**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2007, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-17-10-00pm-11-00pm/399377/25 "2007-04-10T16:37:16Z")

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One nice bit about this episode – it managed to throw something at me that I didn’t expect. Namely, the wrapup of the Fayed/suitcase nukes plotline. With 2 nukes left, I was fully expecting those to account for the remainder of this season. After all, the first 3 have been dealt with one-by-one. Well, the first one exploded, but the other two have been stopped one at a time. I figured with 1/3 of the season remaining (going into tonight) that Jack would stop one more nuke within the next two episodes, then have the last 6 episodes to find the last one. All the time with Fayed slipping and sliding away.

When Jack entered the warehouse alone – I thought he was going to be captured. Again.

Instead, this episode was a pleasant surprise, with Jack stopping both of the remaining nukes at once.

In fact, I have a feeling that my first scenario was a distinct possibility earlier on in the season, when this one wasn’t written yet. Otherwise, why have two remaining nukes at this point? Why not just one?

But then, perhaps a deciding factor on where to take this season relates to the phone call:

**Audrey** : Jack, help me!  
**Jask** : Audrey, is that you?  
**Audrey** : Yes, and you have to save me! I got involved in this bank heist, and that ended abruptly, and now they are going to kill me, and I’ll be out of work again!  
**Jack** : What?  
**Audrey** : Do you want me employed here in season 7 or not?! I don’t want to have to do some lame sitcom, you know! Please, Jack!

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2007, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-17-10-00pm-11-00pm/399377/26 "2007-04-10T16:43:15Z")

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[QUOTE=Big Bad Voodoo Lou]  
Jack left HOT Rena Sofer and her son safely in CTU’s care several hours ago.  
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If there’s one thing about **24** that’s assured, it’s that nobody is ever safe when they’re in CTU’s care.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2007, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-17-10-00pm-11-00pm/399377/27 "2007-04-10T17:00:50Z")

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[QUOTE=featherlou]  
Oh, lord, The Stick is back. Is there anybody that Jack has _less_ chemistry with than Audrey? She’s a blank place in the show labelled “Insert Girlfriend Here.” In my opinion, of course. 😃  
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Nell will be saved by Dudley Do-Right, just you wait and see!

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2007, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-17-10-00pm-11-00pm/399377/28 "2007-04-10T17:03:04Z")

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[QUOTE=John DiFool]  
Nell will be saved by Dudley Do-Right, just you wait and see!  
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Unfortunately spoilers say that Nell is now a brain-damaged quasi-vegetable.

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**Author:** ![pretend\_my\_name\_is\_witty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b9e5f3/32.png) [@pretend\_my\_name\_is\_witty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pretend_my_name_is_witty)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2007, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-17-10-00pm-11-00pm/399377/29 "2007-04-10T17:18:07Z")

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About to watch it again now, but did they check that both of the suitcases contained a nuke?

There was one open with an obvious nuke in it, and the other was closed and I dont think Doyle opened it up at all. I really hope they finish this story arc here and continue with the Audrey bit, but seems like they left with an open and shut case…_groan_

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**Author:** ![fiddlesticks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddlesticks/32/18129_2.png) [@fiddlesticks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fiddlesticks)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2007, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-17-10-00pm-11-00pm/399377/30 "2007-04-10T17:26:01Z")

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[QUOTE=pretend my name is witty]  
About to watch it again now, but did they check that both of the suitcases contained a nuke?

There was one open with an obvious nuke in it, and the other was closed and I dont think Doyle opened it up at all. I really hope they finish this story arc here and continue with the Audrey bit, but seems like they left with an open and shut case…_groan_  
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Pure speculation, but perhaps the Chinese will be looking to trade a suitcase nuke or two for Audrey’s life. They know they’ll never get any information from Jack if they take him back to China so I’m sure the deal won’t simply be “trade your freedom for your girlfriend’s”.

Love that predictable 24 timing…when Fayed was hung out to dry and the nukes declared “safe” with 4 minutes left in the episode I knew we were in for another “exciting twist”…

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**Post date:** [April 10, 2007, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-17-10-00pm-11-00pm/399377/31 "2007-04-10T18:09:35Z")

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The Chinese apparently want a computer chip component of one of the nukes.

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**Post date:** [April 10, 2007, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-17-10-00pm-11-00pm/399377/32 "2007-04-10T18:36:59Z")

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I love how the Chinese have the courtesy to wait until after Jack has secured the nukes to make the phone call.

I think there is a certain point in the season where the writers start incorporating their viewer’s feedback into the plot of each episode. They have a certain amount of episodes written before the season airs, and then they write the rest while the show airs.

It might be that the writers have realized that the current story isn’t working and came up with a new one. I just hope we see more Chloe.

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2007, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-17-10-00pm-11-00pm/399377/33 "2007-04-10T18:59:41Z")

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Wait a minute…who the hell is Nell?

-Joe

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**Post date:** [April 10, 2007, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-17-10-00pm-11-00pm/399377/34 "2007-04-10T19:09:50Z")

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One thing Jack _isn’t_ is Dudley-Do-Right. He’s more like Dudley-Torture-Some-Guys-and-Disobey-Direct-Orders.

Is anyone else getting a feeling that they’re grooming Doyle to be an apprentice/replacement for Jack?

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2007, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-17-10-00pm-11-00pm/399377/35 "2007-04-10T19:10:56Z")

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[QUOTE=featherlou]  
Is anyone else getting a feeling that they’re grooming Doyle to be an apprentice/replacement for Jack?  
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I hope not. He’s not believable as a tough guy. He is, however, believable as a guy who had a bee sting both cheeks into puffy immobility…

-Joe

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**Post date:** [April 10, 2007, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-17-10-00pm-11-00pm/399377/36 "2007-04-10T19:22:21Z")

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[QUOTE=featherlou]  
Is anyone else getting a feeling that they’re grooming Doyle to be an apprentice/replacement for Jack?  
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Naw, he’s the mole. They’ve beaten us over the head (well, maybe not for 24) that Milo doesn’t like him. 🙂 Milo even told that to a _woman who scorned him,_ so we know he’s right.

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**Post date:** [April 10, 2007, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-17-10-00pm-11-00pm/399377/37 "2007-04-10T19:44:37Z")

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[QUOTE=featherlou]  
Is anyone else getting a feeling that they’re grooming Doyle to be an apprentice/replacement for Jack?  
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Sutherland is signed on at least through season 8.

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**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2007, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-17-10-00pm-11-00pm/399377/38 "2007-04-10T19:51:01Z")

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[QUOTE=pretend my name is witty]  
There was one open with an obvious nuke in it, and the other was closed and I dont think Doyle opened it up at all. I really hope they finish this story arc here and continue with the Audrey bit, but seems like they left with an open and shut case…_groan_  
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_contorts in pain_  
_raises firearm_

PUT DOWN THE PUN AND GET DOWN ON THE GROUND! NOW!!!

> [@fiddlesticks](#):
>
> Love that predictable 24 timing…when Fayed was hung out to dry and the nukes declared “safe” with 4 minutes left in the episode I knew we were in for another “exciting twist”…

Well, I suppose the other choice is…

**Doyle** : Damn, Jack…!  
**Jack** : Good work, everybody. Now let’s gather evidence and secure the area. I’m heading to the Burger King across the street. I’m so hungry I could eat a frickin’ horse…

_Jack heads over to BK_

**Jack** : Yes, I’d like a double-Whopper with cheese, onion rings, and a large coke, please.  
**Clerk** : Sir… we’re out of onion rings…

_tick-CHUNK_ **10:59:57**  
_tick-CHUNK_ **10:59:58**  
_tick-CHUNK_ **10:59:59**  
_tick-CHUNK_ **11:00:00**

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2007, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-17-10-00pm-11-00pm/399377/39 "2007-04-10T19:55:26Z")

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But who is Nell? Anyone?

-Joe

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**Post date:** [April 10, 2007, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-17-10-00pm-11-00pm/399377/40 "2007-04-10T20:01:21Z")

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[QUOTE=Merijeek]  
But who is Nell? Anyone?

-Joe  
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[Dudley Doright’s](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dudley_Do-Right) main squeeze.

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