# 24: Season 6: Episode 5 (10:00am - 11:00am) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 23, 2007, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-5-10-00am-11-00am/389019 "2007-01-23T00:25:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2007, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-5-10-00am-11-00am/389019/41 "2007-01-23T16:28:28Z")
[QUOTE=Troy McClure SF] I will say that I still hope Graham gets killed by a helicopter, though I suppose I’ll have to be happy with there being a helicopter crash in the same episode. [/QUOTE] I’ll predict right now that Bluetooth Bauer’s days are numbered. To less than one. And I’m betting that Chloe (when she turns out to be the Main Terrorist after all) is actually Jack’s mother. And Mindy is her sister-in-law. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2007, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-5-10-00am-11-00am/389019/42 "2007-01-23T16:31:40Z")
[QUOTE=tdn] And I’m betting that Chloe (when she turns out to be the Main Terrorist after all) is actually Jack’s mother. [/QUOTE] “You only call when you need a satellite repositioned.” ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2007, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-5-10-00am-11-00am/389019/43 "2007-01-23T16:55:55Z")
[QUOTE=jellyblue] Is it just me, or is the actress who plays the President’s sister the worst. actress. ever.? [/QUOTE] The Preidential Sister needs a big ol’ serving of STFU. Her boyfriend is doing a good job of infiltrating that little terror group. Quit whining and let him help out. He’s a big boy – and the FBI knows he’s not a baddie. > [@running piglet cheese](#): > > Wasn’t it just weird that the “Help me! Help me! There’s a helicopter stuck on my roof!” guy didn’t know a mushroom cloud when he saw one? “Nuclear bomb? What nuclear bomb?” Was that his roof? I thought he said something like “our helicopter went down”. I had the impression that he was in it – and managed to get out, but the other guy was stuck. Either way, you’re right – one would think he would have noticed the big-ass mushroom cloud in the sky. Of course, if he was in the crash, there’s also the disorienting element of shock. Either way, don’t bother to check to see if anybody is in the house before you shift the weight load and let the chopper fall and make a huge flaming fireball next to the bedroom window! ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2007, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-5-10-00am-11-00am/389019/44 "2007-01-23T17:06:03Z")
[QUOTE=Oslo Ostragoth] By the way, does Jack know about Graham’s evil role in his getting shipped to China? [/QUOTE] I don’t think so – not yet at least. I don’t think Jack even knows about his involvement with President Logan last season. Although I get the feeling he may start learning some of those details very soon. > [@c\_goat](#): > > I thought he was going to reuse the lamp cord as a torture device like with Audrey’s late husband. Ha! I was thinking the same thing, until he unplugged it. Zzzzaapp! So, when’s Chloe going to get to do something daring, like shoot somebody, taser somebody, or at least sneak around CTU setting up some computer access that goes against “protocols”? So far she’s mostly had to babysit Milo and Morris, only getting in a few snarky comments here and there. I think she’s being underutilized right now. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2007, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-5-10-00am-11-00am/389019/45 "2007-01-23T17:13:31Z")
[QUOTE=Troy McClure SF] I hate to be the jackass of the thread, but this season has me worried so far. Way too much soap-opera quibbling with Morris & Milo, and other stuff too unbeleivable even for _24_. There’s another Palmer that we didn’t know about?! Jack’s brother & father are bad guys?! I realize none of this is new to _24_, but now it seems redundant, and just not done as well. [/QUOTE] Yeah, reeks of “Dallas”, with some new relative popping up every season. You know, for an evil illuminatus, Graham sure has little thought for security. I mean, his house is nice and all (if you like that kind of style), but no security guards? And he answers the door like he’s Ward Cleaver-- not even looking thru the peep hole first? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2007, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-5-10-00am-11-00am/389019/46 "2007-01-23T17:13:41Z")
[QUOTE=Monstre] Although I get the feeling he may start learning some of those details very soon. [/QUOTE] Surely you jest. It would be better to trick him into a quick death that let him discover that. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2007, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-5-10-00am-11-00am/389019/47 "2007-01-23T17:17:53Z")
[QUOTE=carnivorousplant] Surely you jest. It would be better to trick him into a quick death that let him discover that. [/QUOTE] Well, I didn’t say Graham would reveal the info willingly. But I figure that Jack may learn more about his involvement in last season’s events – perhaps from a different source. and if and when that happens… well, Graham will be wistfully longing for the days of when he was only Plastic-Bag-Head. ---
**Author:** ![jellyblue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e480ec/32.png) [@jellyblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jellyblue)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2007, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-5-10-00am-11-00am/389019/48 "2007-01-23T17:31:40Z")
[QUOTE=Monstre] (snip)Graham will be wistfully longing for the days of when he was only Plastic-Bag-Head. [/QUOTE] Especially since it’s an improvement on his general appearance… ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2007, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-5-10-00am-11-00am/389019/49 "2007-01-23T17:57:32Z")
[QUOTE=Monstre] So, when’s Chloe going to get to do something daring, like shoot somebody, taser somebody, or at least sneak around CTU setting up some computer access that goes against “protocols”? [/QUOTE] Didn’t she and Morris redirect a satellite that almost screwed up the deal back in hour 1? I definitely agree that the prez’s sister is a weak point so far. But I definitely don’t mind Jack having family, particularly family that he hasn’t spoken to in years. That’s so Jack. ---
**Author:** ![mack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mack)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2007, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-5-10-00am-11-00am/389019/50 "2007-01-23T17:58:42Z")
[QUOTE=running piglet cheese] Prez Palmer II just didn’t exude the confidence and courage in his TV speech as did his big bro. He just seems caught between wimp and weezle or someone that occasionally has a clue, but not too often. [/QUOTE] Yeah, he seems befuddled. He admitted releasing the guy who hooked the trigger up to the bomb like “heh, silly me. jeez”. He has a conniving paranoid whispering in one ear and his obnoxious activist sister shreiking in the other while deleting files. Not to mention an idiot General who wants to bomb…whoever, as long as it sends a message. Poor Wayne is headed for a meltdown. [QUOTE=Monstre] The Preidential Sister needs a big ol’ serving of STFU. Her boyfriend is doing a good job of infiltrating that little terror group. Quit whining and let him help out. He’s a big boy – and the FBI knows he’s not a baddie. [/QUOTE] She’s so good at not SingTFU, though. A Sherry Palmerish type who _will not be denied_. If anything sends the President over the edge it’s going to be her. Her boyfriend’s not going to make it to suppertime. ---
**Author:** ![Airblairxxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Airblairxxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airblairxxx)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2007, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-5-10-00am-11-00am/389019/51 "2007-01-23T17:58:43Z")
[QUOTE=Oslo Ostragoth] And Jack’s “nephew” looks a lot more like Jack than (cough) Daddy (cough). [/QUOTE] [QUOTE=jsgoddess] I thought he looked like Ricky Schroeder. [/QUOTE] Well, Jack can ask him about that when [he shows up later this season.](http://imdb.com/name/nm0005401/) ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2007, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-5-10-00am-11-00am/389019/52 "2007-01-23T18:22:10Z")
Are people saying that the nephew looks like jack merely because he has blond hair? Sheesh, by that logic Michelle “Palm Springs is so boring” Pfieffer could be Jack’s sister, which would be just stu… Oh, crap. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2007, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-5-10-00am-11-00am/389019/53 "2007-01-23T18:27:47Z")
[QUOTE=MaxTheVool] But I definitely don’t mind Jack having family, particularly family that he hasn’t spoken to in years. That’s so Jack. [/QUOTE] Though they live in the same city. You’d thing Christmas, just to get something. ---
**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2007, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-5-10-00am-11-00am/389019/54 "2007-01-23T18:32:08Z")
[QUOTE=tdn] Sheesh, by that logic Michelle “Palm Springs is so boring” Pfieffer could be Jack’s sister, which would be just stu… Oh, crap. [/QUOTE] Oh, don’t worry, she’s clearly a long-lost Warner sister. ---
**Author:** ![c\_goat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@c\_goat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/c_goat)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2007, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-5-10-00am-11-00am/389019/55 "2007-01-23T18:42:21Z")
[QUOTE=tdn] Are people saying that the nephew looks like jack merely because he has blond hair? Sheesh, by that logic Michelle “Palm Springs is so boring” Pfieffer could be Jack’s sister, which would be just stu… Oh, crap. [/QUOTE] I think it’s the fact that the mother and father don’t have blond hair, and there was reference to the mother’s prior relationship with Jack, and the way Jack looked dumbfounded at meeting the kid. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2007, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-5-10-00am-11-00am/389019/56 "2007-01-23T18:44:48Z")
[QUOTE=MaxTheVool] Didn’t she and Morris redirect a satellite that almost screwed up the deal back in hour 1? [/QUOTE] Yes, but that little caper only lasted about 15 minutes until they got caught – and it wasn’t really the “right” thing to do at the time. So I’m not really counting that. I mean, maybe Milo will try to tip the vending machine and get a free coke next, but he’ll probably get caught right away, too… > [@Troy McClure SF](#): > > Oh, don’t worry, she’s clearly a long-lost Warner sister. Damn!! When she first appeared, I did a double-take, thinking, “She looks kind of like Kate… or maybe a cross between Kate and Marie”. Maybe she IS a Warner… I forgot the character’s name, but from the IMDB listings I guess [this is her](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0187811/). ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2007, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-5-10-00am-11-00am/389019/57 "2007-01-23T18:49:39Z")
[QUOTE=mack] Not to mention an idiot General who wants to bomb…whoever, as long as it sends a message. [/quote] I was laughing at that one. “No sir, we don’t know which middle eastern country might be collaborating with Fayed… but let’s nuke them all back to the stone age just to be sure!” (Palmer: “Yeah! And let’s hit Canada and Switzerland too, just to be sure!”) (Well… that’s what he _should_ have replied…) > [@](#): > > She’s so good at not SingTFU, though. A Sherry Palmerish type who _will not be denied_. Sherry-ish in pushiness, though not in personal ambition. She’s more like the hippy activist do-gooder version of Sherry Palmer. I could see her throwing paint on fur coats and then calling up her brother to get the local cops to release her. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2007, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-5-10-00am-11-00am/389019/58 "2007-01-23T19:23:37Z")
[QUOTE=c\_goat] I think it’s the fact that the mother and father don’t have blond hair, and there was reference to the mother’s prior relationship with Jack, and the way Jack looked dumbfounded at meeting the kid. [/QUOTE] I’d say Graham’s hair (what little of it there is) is blond. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2007, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-5-10-00am-11-00am/389019/59 "2007-01-23T19:37:36Z")
[QUOTE=Monstre] Damn!! When she first appeared, I did a double-take, thinking, “She looks kind of like Kate… or maybe a cross between Kate and Marie”. Maybe she IS a Warner… [/QUOTE] At first I thought that too. So what you’re saying is that Jack and Graham are Warner Brothers? I’d also like to point out that never, AFAIK, in the history of 24 have there been two characters with the same first name. And they’ve already used up all of the “normal” names like Jack, David, and George. Now they’re using “unusual” name like Milo, Morris, and Uh-MED. ---
**Author:** ![mack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mack)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2007, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-5-10-00am-11-00am/389019/60 "2007-01-23T20:30:34Z")
I definitely like the Uncle Jack is really Papa Jack theory. I was wondering why Jack was gazing so intently at the boy. CTU clearly hasn’t brought it’s “A” game to bear on the terrorists yet. Key tac teams went up in smoke, Buchanan would rather be out on the links, Milo is a weak team leader, and Morris is too much of a prick to be taken seriously even when he tries to be serious. He’s a confounding element that needs to be gotten rid of. Chloe needs to focus. Nadia seems to be more of a capable bureaucrat than a hunter (but she’s hot). So far, anyway. I believe a shakeup is in order. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-5-10-00am-11-00am/389019.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-6-episode-5-10-00am-11-00am/389019.md?page=4)