# 24: Season 7: Episode 10 (5:00pm - 6:00pm)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-10-5-00pm-6-00pm/487111>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 23, 2009, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-10-5-00pm-6-00pm/487111 "2009-02-23T21:49:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2009, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-10-5-00pm-6-00pm/487111/1 "2009-02-23T21:49:56Z")

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**FAQ Bauer (aka Thread Rules)**  
_1) What can be discussed in plain text, unboxed?_  
A: Any events in episodes, once aired on the east coast – as well as any speculation based on these already-aired events.

_2) What should I confine to spoiler boxes?_  
A: Any discussion of upcoming shows that contains information from sources outside the aired material, or any speculation based on such things. This includes the “Next week on 24” previews, which some people choose not to watch.

_3) Where’s Tony?_  
A: Undercover. Yep, he found a nice electric blanket, and he’s taking a nap.

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Previously on 24…

- the First Gentleman is in the hospital, heading into a 5-hour surgery. So, Madame President will probably not be making any crucial decisions for the next 5 hours, besides what she would like from the snack room vending machine.

- which leaves the country in the capable hands of… well, nobody really. As we’ve seen, most of her aides are either Evil Agents of the Other Side, one-track-repetitive baboons, or dead. And if there’s a Vice Pres, he/she must be already in an Undisclosed Bunker somewhere.

- So, it looks like for all practical purposes, Jack is running things. And at this moment, he and Agent Rowrrr are surrounded by the first ever government agency “perimeter” that forms a **closed** 2-dimensional object from an overhead view. You know – the sort of shape for which it would make sense to compute an area.

- After looking up “perimeter” in the dictionary, FBI Secret Mole Agent Creepy Guy sinisterly called the cops, gave them the definition, and told them to make one around Jack. Now he and Agent Rowrrr will be delayed, and Colonel Dubaku will have a few extra minutes to slap around his would-be girlfriend and tell her how disappointed he is that she chose her country over her mass-murdering-going-by-a-false-name lover.

“Love’s a bitch, and then you shoot her” – Dubaku

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_24_, Season 7, Episode 10  
5:00 PM - 6:00 PM

SPOILERS AHEAD!

Season 7 threads:  
[1-2](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=501317) [3-4](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=501477) [5](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=502564) [6](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=503715) [7](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=504782) [8](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=505793) [9](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=506907)

[24: Redemption](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=494375) thread

Season 6 threads:  
[1-2](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=404031) [3-4](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=404207) [5](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=405134) [6](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=406190) [7](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=407210) [8-9](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=408162) [10](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=409155) [11](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=410097) [12](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=411097) [13](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=412063) [14](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=413073) [15](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=414104) [16](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=414977) [17](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=415909) [18](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=416971) [19](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=417977) [20](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=418918) [21](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=419869) [22](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=420847) [23-24](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=421755)

Season 5 threads:  
[1-2](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=354332) [3-4](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=354436) [5](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=355459) [6](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=356499) [7](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=357589) [8](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=358698) [9](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=359770) [10](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=360788) [11-12](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=361746) [13](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=362734) [14](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=363743) [15](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=364735) [16](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=365781) [17](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=366813) [18](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=367766) [19](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=368752) [20](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=369764) [21](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=370750) [22](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=371748) [23-24](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=372700)

Season 4 threads:  
[1-2](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=296090) [3-4](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=296231) [5](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=297399) [6](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=298733) [7](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=299932) [8](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=301189) [9](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=302470) [10](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=303632)[11](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=304737) [12](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=305851) [13](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=306966) [14](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=308104) [15](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=309170) [16](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=310254) [17](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=311420) [18](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=312536) [19](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=313693) [20](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=314775) [21](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=315825) [22](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=316840) [23-24](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=317888)

Season 3 threads:  
[1](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=220002) [2](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=221380) [3](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=222709) [4](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=224017) [5](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=225274) [6](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=226621) [7](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=228098) [8](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=229589) [9](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=233364) [10](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=234768) [11](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=236885) [12](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=237968) [13](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=239159) [14](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=240183) [15](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=241649) [16](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=248269) [17](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=249575) [18](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=251669) [19](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=252057) [20](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=253222) [21](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=254435) [22](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=255627) [23](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=256792) [24](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=258060)

Season 2 threads:  
[1](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=141661) [2](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=142720) [3](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=143761) [4](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=144882) [5](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=146280) [6](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=147635) [7](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=149356) [8](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=150854) [9](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=154843) [10](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=156343) [11](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=160583) [12](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=162262) [13](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=163850) [14](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=165404) [15](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=167046) [16](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=172344) [17](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=174079) [18](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=175707) [19](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=177496) [20](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=178804) [21](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=180544) [22](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=182018) [23](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=183597) [24](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=185081)

Season 1 threads:  
[1](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=97572) 2 [3](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=100175) [4](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=101350) 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 [15](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=103851) [16](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=104854) [17](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=106093) [18](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=107360) 19 [20](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=109991) [21](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=111266) 22 [23](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=115233) [24](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=116289)

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-10-5-00pm-6-00pm/487111/2 "2009-02-24T02:12:13Z")

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Jack Bauer doesn’t care about black people.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-10-5-00pm-6-00pm/487111/3 "2009-02-24T02:15:14Z")

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I thought Dubaku would have escaped while Jack was helping to rescue the “aaset”, but when Jack knocks 'em down, they stay knocked down.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-10-5-00pm-6-00pm/487111/4 "2009-02-24T02:22:04Z")

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Don’t give it to someone else, you Moron!

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-10-5-00pm-6-00pm/487111/5 "2009-02-24T02:23:25Z")

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They haven’t completely locked down FBI HQ after the leak, and Moleman and his airhead squeeze get free run, with no suspicion directed their way?

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**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-10-5-00pm-6-00pm/487111/6 "2009-02-24T02:28:20Z")

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Okay, Jack…? Handing off the super-important-no-copies-available chip to some random officer? That doesn’t seem smart.

And the **only** way that Creepy Guy’s “crash-the-server-when-they-download-the-data” makes any sense at all is if in the 24-universe all computers have only “Cut and Paste” functionality, not “Copy and Paste”. Otherwise, what’s to stop Chloe from just plugging the chip into some other computer.

“What, the whole FBI system has been erased? The data we just downloaded is gone? Okay, can somebody give me a lift over to Langley? We’ll try downloading on the CIA computers…”

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**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-10-5-00pm-6-00pm/487111/7 "2009-02-24T02:29:41Z")

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Auto-erase function? How convenient… Like Chloe couldn’t find a way around that…

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-10-5-00pm-6-00pm/487111/8 "2009-02-24T02:35:13Z")

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Reformatting will not permanently erase files. I don’t know how long it would take to recover them, but unless you physically destroy it, the info isn’t gone.

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**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-10-5-00pm-6-00pm/487111/9 "2009-02-24T02:37:10Z")

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The well-timed exploding vehicle is _such_ a cliche. Can’t believe “24” is still using it.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-10-5-00pm-6-00pm/487111/10 "2009-02-24T02:37:18Z")

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If they buy the line of bullshit that Moleman is feeding them. Please let Jack get a nice firm grip on his nads before the ep is over-Moleman would be one of Jack’s easier breakjobs.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-10-5-00pm-6-00pm/487111/11 "2009-02-24T02:37:39Z")

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Man, I bet that hurt.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-10-5-00pm-6-00pm/487111/12 "2009-02-24T02:39:51Z")

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What happened to the blood on Mole rat’s shirt? No hole, either.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-10-5-00pm-6-00pm/487111/13 "2009-02-24T02:44:33Z")

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The FBI’s a bunch of pussies.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-10-5-00pm-6-00pm/487111/14 "2009-02-24T02:45:35Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> Reformatting will not permanently erase files. I don’t know how long it would take to recover them, but unless you physically destroy it, the info isn’t gone.

Given the physical size, I would say it was flash RAM rather than a magnetic drive.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-10-5-00pm-6-00pm/487111/15 "2009-02-24T02:46:44Z")

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Chloe saves the day, and Moleman finally got what was coming to him. Only thing left is to see if my prediction will come to pass.

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**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-10-5-00pm-6-00pm/487111/16 "2009-02-24T02:47:01Z")

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well, never mind forensics or anything. There’d probably be powder burns on his shirt, showing the close range of the shot, right? So if she shot him before they “struggled”, why shoot the arm? Bad story, Creepy Guy.

Afterward, his arm seemed quite functional when he was… putting on his jacket… running down the hall… getting grabbed by THAT arm by the guys apprehending him…

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-10-5-00pm-6-00pm/487111/17 "2009-02-24T02:47:29Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Given the physical size, I would say it was flash RAM rather than a magnetic drive.

And Chloe copied it to the desktop.

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**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-10-5-00pm-6-00pm/487111/18 "2009-02-24T02:48:13Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Given the physical size, I would say it was flash RAM rather than a magnetic drive.

I’m pretty sure **Snarky Kong** was talking about the “reformatted” server, not the flash device.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-10-5-00pm-6-00pm/487111/19 "2009-02-24T02:51:23Z")

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> [@Monstre](#):
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> I’m pretty sure **Snarky Kong** was talking about the “reformatted” server, not the flash device.

Ah. 🙂  
Tony!  
I knew thinsg were going too well.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-10-5-00pm-6-00pm/487111/20 "2009-02-24T02:58:25Z")

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Okay, they’ll kidnap a sitting Senator, close enough.

I’m hoping that the “operation” is more than that-c’mon surprise me _please_…

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