# 24: Season 7: Episode 14 (9:00pm - 10:00pm)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-14-9-00pm-10-00pm/489663>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 16, 2009, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-14-9-00pm-10-00pm/489663 "2009-03-16T20:40:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-14-9-00pm-10-00pm/489663/21 "2009-03-17T15:10:04Z")

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> [@Wheelz](#):
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> Boy, the First Hottie is a devious little bitch, isn’t she?
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> I’ll retract that insult if I’m proven wrong,

Jesus, she’s supposed to be Chelsea! :eek:

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**Author:** ![Big\_Norse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/big_norse/32/9954_2.png) [@Big\_Norse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Big_Norse)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-14-9-00pm-10-00pm/489663/22 "2009-03-17T19:39:07Z")

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So Voight’s evil henchmen are having a sleepover? It kind of makes them less ominous when they have to be told to pack their jammies and toothbrush.

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**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-14-9-00pm-10-00pm/489663/23 "2009-03-17T20:35:16Z")

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Major eye-roll at the first vehicle Jack stole. It took him no more than 3 seconds to break into the steering column, find the right wires, shave the insulation off them, put them together and drive away.

They might as well give him “car-starting vision” or something.

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**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-14-9-00pm-10-00pm/489663/24 "2009-03-17T22:25:53Z")

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> [@Big\_Norse](#):
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> So Voight’s evil henchmen are having a sleepover? It kind of makes them less ominous when they have to be told to pack their jammies and toothbrush.

Ooh–Do you think they have footie pajamas?

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**Author:** ![Ronald\_C.Semone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/cc9497/32.png) [@Ronald\_C.Semone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ronald_C.Semone)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-14-9-00pm-10-00pm/489663/25 "2009-03-18T01:06:46Z")

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Can you, or even Jack Bauer, really break a car window with your elbow?

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-14-9-00pm-10-00pm/489663/26 "2009-03-18T01:57:15Z")

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> [@Ronald\_C.Semone](#):
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> Can you, or even Jack Bauer, really break a car window with your elbow?

I suspect that if I was shot bodily at a glass window at 50 MPH with my arm out front, that I could indeed break through it.

No comment on what my physical state would be afterward, of course.

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**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-14-9-00pm-10-00pm/489663/27 "2009-03-18T02:22:47Z")

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> [@Ronald\_C.Semone](#):
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> Can you, or even Jack Bauer, really break a car window with your elbow?

Dude, Jack Bauer could break _Chuck Norris_ with his elbow.

Heck, he could break Chuck Norris, Mr. T., and a suitably unprepared Batman, all with one blow.

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**Author:** ![Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d9b06d/32.png) [@Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ichini_Sanshigo)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-14-9-00pm-10-00pm/489663/28 "2009-03-18T03:01:29Z")

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> [@JThunder](#):
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> Dude, Jack Bauer could break _Chuck Norris_ with his elbow.
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> Heck, he could break Chuck Norris, Mr. T., and a suitably unprepared Batman, all with one blow.

But not without majorly angsting about it for brief breaks in between the action.

Also, I cannot believe I slept through last night’s episode. Laid down to rest my eyes and my knees and woke up exactly 3 minutes after the show was over. Somehow, I don’t think I missed much that won’t be covered in next week’s previouslies/this thread/Dave Barry’s blog/ TwoP.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-14-9-00pm-10-00pm/489663/29 "2009-03-18T03:35:05Z")

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> [@JThunder](#):
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> Heck, he could break Chuck Norris, Mr. T., and a suitably unprepared Batman, all with one blow.

Going on the philosophy that if you mention the same thing enough times it might make its way into memedom, I’d still say that Jack Bauer is the Anti-Batman. Batman is unstoppable when he’s prepared, but has no recourse but to run away when caught flat-footed. Jack Bauer will always prevail when caught in a situation he totally didn’t expect, but all his best laid plans will always fail.

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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-14-9-00pm-10-00pm/489663/30 "2009-03-18T03:58:51Z")

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Break window with elbow. Oops, broke elbow instead. No?

I love how jumping through a set of French doors protects you from machine gun bullets.

Walker definitely should have confirmed there was a ceiling assassin and that she ID’d him. That really wouldn’t have given away Jack’s location or intent to question Senator Mayer. And definitely would have helped with the “shoot Jack on sight” order.

And Jack should have called Agent Moss from the dead assassin’s still-warm body and said “I caught the assassin. Yeah, he’s dead, but he left the gun he used to kill Senator Mayer, sorry about that, he’s dead too. No, I can’t come in, I’m not done yet, and you’ll just botch it, but please don’t shoot me on sight.”

[QUOTE=John DiFool]  
So what exactly is the point of your little coup attempt/terrorist attack? Anybody figured out precisely how any of these plots are going to strengthen the country, as opposed to fundamentally weakening it?  
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That’s bugging me, too. Take out all the people that are trying to shut down their illegal commando company?

[QUOTE=carnivorousplant]

Winnie the Pooh has more experience and training than he.  
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Win!

[QUOTE=Stephe96]

Anyone else think First Daughter Olivia is a dead-ringer for Reese Witherspoon?  
[/QUOTE]

She bears a resemblance.

[QUOTE=tr0psn4j]

Coolest part of the show was when Jack threw a screwdriver so hard, it punctured a bullet proof vest and the guy’s chest.  
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Well that was the guy’s mistake. He should have been wearing a screwdriver-proof vest.

[QUOTE=Wheelz]

I’ll retract that insult if I’m proven wrong, but I think nobody will be surprised when we find out she did indeed orchestrate the leak, with every intention of riding to the rescue and looking like the hero. Did she literally skip into the Oval Office? “You wanted to see me, Mommy? Guess what – I fixed big mean Ethan’s big bad mistake (giggle)!”  
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Played to me more straight up. Yes, she was kinda smug about it, but that’s because she was able to get independent proof that she didn’t do it, so now Ethan looks doubly like an ass. Plus, since she’s out to get him, that just makes his job to discredit her harder.

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**Author:** ![Big\_Norse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/big_norse/32/9954_2.png) [@Big\_Norse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Big_Norse)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-14-9-00pm-10-00pm/489663/31 "2009-03-18T17:55:36Z")

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> [@MEBuckner](#):
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> Ooh–Do you think they have footie pajamas?

Matching black footie pajamas - and machine guns.

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-14-9-00pm-10-00pm/489663/32 "2009-03-18T18:16:35Z")

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Looks like Ray Wise continues to be the only _RoboCop_ alum to make it out of Jack’s 24 netherworld alive.

Naturally, the most sincere and coherent argument yet made against torture on the show is from the guy who, unbeknownst to him, has only 30 more seconds to live. Stupid trusting dummy! This is Jack’s world, bitch!

And who in the world ever opens a door for the “police” without looking through the keyhole first?

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**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-14-9-00pm-10-00pm/489663/33 "2009-03-18T21:44:59Z")

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Through the keyhole?

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**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-14-9-00pm-10-00pm/489663/34 "2009-03-18T23:58:50Z")

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Jack’s confrontation with Quinn, particularly the bulldozer, was absolutely top-notch 24.

What can you say but “Damn, Jack”?  
So far the first daughter plot is nearly Kim-cougar-trap lame and irrelevant, but we’ll see if it goes somewhere.  
Shouldn’t the first gentleman be getting out of surgery fairly soon?

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-14-9-00pm-10-00pm/489663/35 "2009-03-19T00:17:56Z")

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> [@MaxTheVool](#):
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> What can you say but “Damn, Jack”?

As I recall, I exclaimed, “Outf–kingstanding!”

Is that a split infinitive?

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**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-14-9-00pm-10-00pm/489663/36 "2009-03-19T01:30:22Z")

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> [@Ichini\_Sanshigo](#):
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> …Dave Barry’s blog…

He’s still doing that? Got link?

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**Author:** ![Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d9b06d/32.png) [@Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ichini_Sanshigo)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-14-9-00pm-10-00pm/489663/37 "2009-03-19T02:11:02Z")

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[Monday’s show](http://blogs.herald.com/dave_barrys_blog/2009/03/24-2.html)

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-14-9-00pm-10-00pm/489663/38 "2009-03-19T03:33:22Z")

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> [@Ichini\_Sanshigo](#):
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> [Monday’s show](http://blogs.herald.com/dave_barrys_blog/2009/03/24-2.html)

You, Sir, are a Gentleman and a Scholar.  
Thanks!

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-14-9-00pm-10-00pm/489663/39 "2009-03-19T04:53:22Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> As I recall, I exclaimed, “Outf–kingstanding!”
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> Is that a split infinitive?

Technically, that’s called an “[infix](http://www.answers.com/topic/infix),” by analogy to prefix and suffix.

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**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-14-9-00pm-10-00pm/489663/40 "2009-03-19T05:44:03Z")

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> [@Ichini\_Sanshigo](#):
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> [Monday’s show](http://blogs.herald.com/dave_barrys_blog/2009/03/24-2.html)

Thanks so much. I’ll be digging through the archives.

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