# 24: Season 7: Episode 19 (2:00am - 3:00am) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 20, 2009, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-19-2-00am-3-00am/493778 "2009-04-20T21:09:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2009, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-19-2-00am-3-00am/493778/1 "2009-04-20T21:09:20Z")
**FAQ Bauer (aka Thread Rules)** _1) What can be discussed in plain text, unboxed?_ A: Any events in episodes, once aired on the east coast – as well as any speculation based on these already-aired events. _2) What should I confine to spoiler boxes?_ A: Any discussion of upcoming shows that contains information from sources outside the aired material, or any speculation based on such things. This includes the “Next week on 24” previews, which some people choose not to watch. _3) So what is Tony now… a triple-agent? Quadruple-agent once removed?_ A: I can’t answer that. I lost my calculator. * * * Previously on 24… - Jack has a weepy talk with his daughter. They reconcile. He still refuses to let her save him with her stem cells, because apparently he’s a stubborn bastard with a death wish. - Tony hijacks the guard, makes him lead the way to the fuel tanks, plants C-4, drops the detonator in a grate, barely grabs the detonator in time, blows up the rockets, and does a Die Hard leap off the building while it’s 'sploding (visible from satellite-infrared-cam only). - Rogue Starkwood guard does a Perimeter Sweep, which is just a ploy to steal a cannister and run. - And now what’s up with Tony? After all of his heroism, including delivering the initial warning of Juma’s attack on the White House, he’s just either killed or knocked out Larry Moss and is in league with Perimeter Guy. Is he going to have some explainable motive for all of his actions today, or are the writers just pulling "gotcha!"s out of their nether regions? * * * _24_, Season 7, Episode 19 2:00 AM - 3:00 AM SPOILERS AHEAD! 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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-19-2-00am-3-00am/493778/2 "2009-04-21T01:01:04Z")
My prediction for tonight: Edgar, security guard at Dunkin’ Donuts, awakens, 24 was all a dream… ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-19-2-00am-3-00am/493778/3 "2009-04-21T01:04:41Z")
The shortest guest appearance in history. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-19-2-00am-3-00am/493778/4 "2009-04-21T01:04:42Z")
Secret Operation Fake Attorney initiated. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-19-2-00am-3-00am/493778/5 "2009-04-21T01:07:50Z")
> [@Monstre](#): > > Fake Attorney Aren’t they all…oh. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-19-2-00am-3-00am/493778/6 "2009-04-21T01:13:41Z")
“Fumble Fingers” Tony. I guess he’s a real bad guy since he killed the FBI guy Larry…Unless, unbeknown to us, but beknownst to Tony, Larry was really a bad guy… ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-19-2-00am-3-00am/493778/7 "2009-04-21T01:16:42Z")
Technically speaking, I think Larry had already been shot by the other dude – but Tony helped the process along. Obviously, Tony’s willing to initiate a plan that wipes out a couples dozen FBI agents, though. So who is he working for anyways? Clearly not Starkwood. Can’t imagine that he faked blowing up the rockets. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-19-2-00am-3-00am/493778/8 "2009-04-21T01:30:02Z")
Jack: You sure it wasn’t a .45? Tony: What, you think I’m stupid enough to shoot myself in the gut with a .45? Er, I mean, well, it did happen kind of fast… ---
**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-19-2-00am-3-00am/493778/9 "2009-04-21T01:30:04Z")
Man, they’re really repeating themselves tonight. This is the second time they’ve used the bad guy "shoots himself in the arm " gag and (possibly) the second time they’ve used the “key witness killed by an untraceable heart attack” gag. I think the scriptwriters have the same thing that Jack has. Oh, and just like the previous guy, Tony is up and around 20 minutes after being shot. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-19-2-00am-3-00am/493778/10 "2009-04-21T01:31:14Z")
At least Tony’s using his good arm to make his phone calls. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-19-2-00am-3-00am/493778/11 "2009-04-21T01:33:45Z")
Doesn’t he know about his grandchild? Kim: Hell, no, Daddy will kill you. Nobody likes having you knock up their daughter, no matter how many licenses you have… ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-19-2-00am-3-00am/493778/12 "2009-04-21T01:37:02Z")
Has Jack not yet noticed all the little shifty sideways looks coming from Tony? I mean, more than usual… the type he gives when he’s hiding something. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-19-2-00am-3-00am/493778/13 "2009-04-21T01:42:26Z")
Would either of you boys like a jelly bean? ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-19-2-00am-3-00am/493778/14 "2009-04-21T01:49:18Z")
Jack will be cured from his mad cow: Teri Jr. will provide her DNA, and it will be a perfect match because the exploratory research works better with stem cells that skip a generation. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-19-2-00am-3-00am/493778/15 "2009-04-21T01:52:01Z")
Thats just my guess, mind you. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-19-2-00am-3-00am/493778/16 "2009-04-21T01:56:56Z")
Dammit, I _like_ Tony. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-19-2-00am-3-00am/493778/17 "2009-04-21T01:57:33Z")
It would seem as if 24 has studied from the Silence of the Lambs night school. ---
**Author:** ![Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d9b06d/32.png) [@Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ichini_Sanshigo)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-19-2-00am-3-00am/493778/18 "2009-04-21T02:03:48Z")
Seriously, that was just… gross. But surprisingly effective. ---
**Author:** ![fiddlesticks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddlesticks/32/18129_2.png) [@fiddlesticks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fiddlesticks)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-19-2-00am-3-00am/493778/19 "2009-04-21T02:36:44Z")
Are we supposed to know who Ginger-Haired Fake Attourney is? Looks like we’re going to need some more FBI guys. – Die Hard ---
**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-19-2-00am-3-00am/493778/20 "2009-04-21T03:00:38Z")
Tony, true to cocky bad guy form, spills the beans to the hero who he thinks cannot harm him. So sure was he that the sudden onset of Jack’s illness would prevent him from uttering the words, “Tony’s dirty.” What was in his hand, that he showed Jack, when he said, “Is this what you’re looking for?”? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-7-episode-19-2-00am-3-00am/493778.md?page=2)