# 24: Season 8: Episode 13 (4:00am - 5:00am)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-13-4-00am-5-00am/533402>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 22, 2010, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-13-4-00am-5-00am/533402 "2010-03-22T22:21:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-13-4-00am-5-00am/533402/41 "2010-03-24T16:27:06Z")

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> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#):
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> Can someone pelase explain to me why the bad guys didn’t just run behind that walking barricade and cap their assses?

Because Jack would shoot 'em.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-13-4-00am-5-00am/533402/42 "2010-03-24T16:42:51Z")

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> [@ProfessorX](#):
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> I believe Tony’s technically still alive though right? Or not totally dead by 24 standards? Would be awesome if he was to come back. I think he’s my favorite 24 character of all time.

Tony was last seen alive and in custody. I believe it was the 24th time that Tony has been taken into custody.

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**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-13-4-00am-5-00am/533402/43 "2010-03-24T18:38:24Z")

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> [@D\_Odds](#):
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> Tony was last seen alive and in custody. I believe it was the 24th time that Tony has been taken into custody.

He probably spent a lot of his formative years in Detention.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-13-4-00am-5-00am/533402/44 "2010-03-24T23:53:29Z")

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Motherfucking Christ on a cracker!

I just caught up on my 24 tape and I swear, I am GLAD this is the last season. Dana being a mole is probably one of the stupidest twists this show has ever pulled. At least the dumb Kevin/Mr. Stapler story is over, but making her a mole is even worse.

Which is really a shame, because when season 8 is good, it’s really good. But the shit is season 6 bad.

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-13-4-00am-5-00am/533402/45 "2010-03-25T00:09:42Z")

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I kinda Half expect Chase to return, Hook hand, Eye Patch and all.  
Heh. 24 can fight Bit torrents and Pirates.

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**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-13-4-00am-5-00am/533402/46 "2010-03-25T20:29:34Z")

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Maybe Behrooz will return, all grown up, and now an Uber-Terrorist. Pissed off because he was traded to the bad guys and abandoned by CTU.

He won’t be working towards any political end. He’ll just want to kill everybody.

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**Author:** ![Winston\_Bongo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a9adbd/32.png) [@Winston\_Bongo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winston_Bongo)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-13-4-00am-5-00am/533402/47 "2010-03-25T20:51:19Z")

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> [@Monstre](#):
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> Maybe Behrooz will return, all grown up, and now an Uber-Terrorist. Pissed off because he was traded to the bad guys and abandoned by CTU.
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> He won’t be working towards any political end. He’ll just want to kill everybody.

And he could be accompanied by Zombie Marwan, all decayed and pissed off like he was in _The Mummy_!

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**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2010, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-13-4-00am-5-00am/533402/48 "2010-03-26T02:02:10Z")

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I gotta say, the 24 threads are more full of pissing and moaning about its thread topic than any other thread around. Read through the thread with the intention of looking for positive comments; post after post after post is nothing but complaints. You’d think this was an I-Hate-24 thread.

I know, the plot is full of holes. And I know, this is more fun than constant praise. But day-um! It makes me wonder why y’all A: watch it, and B: take the time to post about it.

Carry on.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2010, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-13-4-00am-5-00am/533402/49 "2010-03-26T02:31:43Z")

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> [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](#):
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> I know, the plot is full of holes. And I know, this is more fun than constant praise.

Well, yes.  
🙂

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**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2010, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-13-4-00am-5-00am/533402/50 "2010-03-26T04:15:29Z")

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I don’t follow celebrity news, but is Kiefer Sutherland sick with something major?

Because over and over we have episodes where Jack’s part is something like: sit in a car and listen in on Renee; sit in a car and yell in a phone; drive around in a car…

It’s like the writers are having to write for an action show where their action hero can’t actually do any action.

Along the same lines, Jack is mostly isolated from the rest of the cast, with just a couple of others interacting with him in the flesh. Which makes me suspect they film most of the other scenes while Kiefer is sick/recovering/whatever and then they do his scenes separately, maybe weeks apart, and then just edit the two batches together.

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2010, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-13-4-00am-5-00am/533402/51 "2010-03-26T14:09:25Z")

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> [@tr0psn4j](#):
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> CTU doesn’t have off site backups?

Technically, we only know that because that’s what Dana told Jimmy James. She could have been lying to make him think that all records of the evidence locker break-in were destroyed.

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**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2010, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-13-4-00am-5-00am/533402/52 "2010-03-27T00:55:14Z")

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Somebody remind me: did anyone suggest that Dana be referred to as “Frak” Bauer?

The ones I remember: Black Bauer and Jack Rawrrr.

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**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2010, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-13-4-00am-5-00am/533402/53 "2010-03-27T11:53:35Z")

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> [@Zeldar](#):
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> Have y’all noticed how Hastings/Williamson slinks around all stoop-shouldered like he just got caught doing something nasty? Not the image you’d want the head man to have if he was out there commanding respect and stuff.

Yep. In an earlier thread this season I referred to him as “Director Stoops” for that very reason. 😛

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**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2010, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-13-4-00am-5-00am/533402/54 "2010-03-29T08:06:44Z")

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> [@StarvingButStrong](#):
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> I don’t follow celebrity news, but is Kiefer Sutherland sick with something major?
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> Because over and over we have episodes where Jack’s part is something like: sit in a car and listen in on Renee; sit in a car and yell in a phone; drive around in a car…
> 
> It’s like the writers are having to write for an action show where their action hero can’t actually do any action.
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> Along the same lines, Jack is mostly isolated from the rest of the cast, with just a couple of others interacting with him in the flesh. Which makes me suspect they film most of the other scenes while Kiefer is sick/recovering/whatever and then they do his scenes separately, maybe weeks apart, and then just edit the two batches together.

They did have to shut down production for a week or so because Kiefer had a cyst that broke. Unfortunately Kiefer lacks Jack’s magical healing powers which would have allowed him to break the cyst himself with his own ka-bar knife, cauterize the resulting wound with the hot barrel of a machine gun he just emptied into 20 terrorists and swing back into action before the next commercial break.

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**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2010, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-13-4-00am-5-00am/533402/55 "2010-03-29T14:28:40Z")

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> [@DWMarch](#):
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> They did have to shut down production for a week or so because Kiefer had a cyst that broke. Unfortunately Kiefer lacks Jack’s magical healing powers which would have allowed him to break the cyst himself with his own ka-bar knife, cauterize the resulting wound with the hot barrel of a machine gun he just emptied into 20 terrorists and swing back into action before the next commercial break.

Well, jeeez.

Guess they did a bad job of casting the role. 🆒

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