# 24: Season 8: Episode 17 (8:00am - 9:00am) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 12, 2010, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-17-8-00am-9-00am/535883 "2010-04-12T21:15:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-17-8-00am-9-00am/535883/21 "2010-04-13T02:16:45Z")
Nah, Chloe wouldn’t be a mole. They’ve already established her as totally loyal and trustworthy to Jack over the years. It would be too out of the blue to make such a move. Tony at least had some explainable motive for his erratic actions in season 5, then 7 – Michelle’s death. Chloe will be good at barking orders. And she won’t take back-talk. “Stop asking me questions, and just do it!” Sniper dude is going to wish he’d never been born. And I hope Jack goes back and does a REAL interrogation of Dana – none of this immunity deal crap. ---
**Author:** ![Kiros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/439d5e/32.png) [@Kiros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kiros)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-17-8-00am-9-00am/535883/22 "2010-04-13T02:27:02Z")
Grrrrr. Everyone in the continental U.S. save Chloe, the President, and a few trusted others MUST DIE! I was actually more surprised that they let Chloe run things than that they killed Renee… but was still not thrilled at all that she got taken out. I suppose the good side of it is that Jack gets to run wild for the next several hours, but still… Poor Renee! ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-17-8-00am-9-00am/535883/23 "2010-04-13T02:29:25Z")
Seriously, and that isn’t something I often say about 24, I don’t see how the Computer Guy would be a good manager. Better to hire Jack for the position. ---
**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-17-8-00am-9-00am/535883/24 "2010-04-13T02:40:21Z")
They really threw the real time thing to the wind in this episode. President Logan appears at the Air Force like they beamed him in there minutes after the President said she’d talk to him. And he knew, through the Russians, that the wife of the dead President had agreed to take over as leader, instantaneously. And no ambulance could have gotten Renee to the hospital as fast as that taxi did. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-17-8-00am-9-00am/535883/25 "2010-04-13T03:18:09Z")
> [@randwill](#): > > And no ambulance could have gotten Renee to the hospital as fast as that taxi did. The ambulance doesn’t have to get her to the hospital, it just has to get to her. They are mobile emergency rooms. ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-17-8-00am-9-00am/535883/26 "2010-04-13T03:37:42Z")
> [@randwill](#): > > They really threw the real time thing to the wind in this episode. Well, we now know how long Jack takes to do the deed. ---
**Author:** ![tr0psn4j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@tr0psn4j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tr0psn4j)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-17-8-00am-9-00am/535883/27 "2010-04-13T05:40:20Z")
They better not kill Renee! Chloe, Queen of the CTU! Too bad about Hastings though. Jack’s getting some! Did you guys see Chloe’s doppelganger? Zoomed in on her right after Hastings said, “I’ve never been good at saying good byes.” Chloe’s on top of her game! 😃 Come to think of it, Hastings handled his stepping down very well. I’m glad they didn’t make it such a big deal. Logan is looking a lot younger. Wow, he’s being very vague. Fuck she got shot. ☹ Jack got all emo again. He has to be the manliest man to ever cry. Man, that kind of sucked. Wish they hadn’t killed her. ---
**Author:** ![tr0psn4j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@tr0psn4j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tr0psn4j)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-17-8-00am-9-00am/535883/28 "2010-04-13T05:41:58Z")
> [@Monstre](#): > > Oh great, and now they are going to suffer sniperus interruptus? You stole my coitus interruptus joke! ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 8:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-17-8-00am-9-00am/535883/29 "2010-04-13T08:53:13Z")
Is this the first time there was a silent countdown in two consecutive episodes? ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-17-8-00am-9-00am/535883/30 "2010-04-13T15:08:02Z")
Wasn’t the Russian assassin supposed to be waiting for further orders? So just to be prepared, he goes ahead and kills some random guy just to set up an observation nest. Then he kills Renee right after she starts talking about recognizing him just like he was worried about, however I don’t see how he could have known that without reading her lips or having some kind of tap on Jack’s phone. Did I miss something? And Troi passed her Bridge Officer exam so she can run the Enterprise just fine! ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-17-8-00am-9-00am/535883/31 "2010-04-13T15:22:54Z")
Killing Renee was a mistake, plot wise. We’ve been there, done that. It actually makes me less interested in the rest of the season instead of more. ---
**Author:** ![tr0psn4j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@tr0psn4j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tr0psn4j)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-17-8-00am-9-00am/535883/32 "2010-04-13T16:42:10Z")
> [@RikWriter](#): > > Killing Renee was a mistake, plot wise. We’ve been there, done that. It actually makes me less interested in the rest of the season instead of more. YES! I was interested to see what was going to happen between Jack and Renee when everything was over. Instead, they killed one of the coolest characters they have had on the show. Jack must be Super Pissed now. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-17-8-00am-9-00am/535883/33 "2010-04-13T17:43:26Z")
> [@tr0psn4j](#): > > YES! I was interested to see what was going to happen between Jack and Renee when everything was over. Instead, they killed one of the coolest characters they have had on the show. > Jack must be Super Pissed now. Jack’s always super pissed. It’s his super-power. ---
**Author:** ![tr0psn4j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@tr0psn4j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tr0psn4j)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-17-8-00am-9-00am/535883/34 "2010-04-13T18:20:41Z")
> [@RikWriter](#): > > Jack’s always super pissed. It’s his super-power. True but he has varying levels of Super Pissery. He hasn’t been this super pissed since his last interaction with Nina Myers. ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-17-8-00am-9-00am/535883/35 "2010-04-13T18:58:50Z")
> [@tr0psn4j](#): > > YES! I was interested to see what was going to happen between Jack and Renee when everything was over. Instead, they killed one of the coolest characters they have had on the show. I’m wondering if they made the decision to off her before or after they learned the show was cancelled. Because it would have been a nice way for the show to go out, with the prospect that Jack might have a life beyond CTU and someone special to share it with. Killing her feels like gratuitous boilerplate manipulation to make Jack MAD. Again. Now, I think the series should end with Jack’s death (and throw Logan in there for good measure). Screw any future “movie” plans–let Jack go out in a fight. He’s earned it. ---
**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-17-8-00am-9-00am/535883/36 "2010-04-14T04:42:44Z")
So, after taking command of CTU, can the Presidency be far behind? ---
**Author:** ![Stuffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f17d59/32.png) [@Stuffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stuffy)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-17-8-00am-9-00am/535883/37 "2010-04-14T16:30:00Z")
> [@RikWriter](#): > > Killing Renee was a mistake, plot wise. We’ve been there, done that. It actually makes me less interested in the rest of the season instead of more. I predicted she’d die horribly the second I saw her. She was practically a Raggedy-Ann doll, missing only a Chevy Tee and her mom’s apple pie recipe. I took one look and told my wife she’d probably be shot in the face. ---
**Author:** ![tr0psn4j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@tr0psn4j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tr0psn4j)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-17-8-00am-9-00am/535883/38 "2010-04-14T16:36:20Z")
I guess her death makes me a Chlack shipper? ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-17-8-00am-9-00am/535883/39 "2010-04-14T17:13:57Z")
I enjoyed this episode quite a bit. True, Jack’s woman getting killed has happened before. But the main previous time I remember (Terri), she died at the very end of the season, and the killer was already in custody. So I’m all about super-angry-revenge-Jack kicking some ass. Logan being back is (of course) contrived, but that doesn’t mean it won’t make for good TV. Now all we need is: -Tony -Mandy, the frequently naked lesbian assassin and -Secret Service agent Aaron Pierce (is that his name?) and the gang will truly all be here. Those of the gang who are still alive, that is. ---
**Author:** ![Ronald\_C.Semone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/cc9497/32.png) [@Ronald\_C.Semone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ronald_C.Semone)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-17-8-00am-9-00am/535883/40 "2010-04-14T18:19:32Z")
The character I most feel sorry for in all the years of this show is the middle-aged woman with a young boy that Jack was living with in Mexico when he was hiding out. They seemed to have a genuine relationship and I felt bad when he unceremoniously dumped her to go back to CTU. I’d like him to end up with her. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-17-8-00am-9-00am/535883.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-17-8-00am-9-00am/535883.md?page=3)