# 24: Season 8: Episode 18 (9:00am - 10:00am) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 20, 2010, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-18-9-00am-10-00am/536692 "2010-04-20T00:47:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2010, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-18-9-00am-10-00am/536692/1 "2010-04-20T00:47:16Z")
**FAQ Bauer (aka Thread Rules)** _1) What can be discussed in plain text, unboxed?_ A: Any events in episodes, once aired on the east coast – as well as any speculation based on these already-aired events. _2) What should I confine to spoiler boxes?_ A: Any discussion of upcoming shows that contains information from sources outside the aired material, or any speculation based on such things. This includes the “Next week on 24” previews, which some people choose not to watch. _3) How will Jack respond to the killing of Renee?_ A: He will go on a revenge spree against the writers. Nobody working in weekly TV is safe. * * * Previously on 24: - Lots of slow exposition happened, so that Jack would actually have time to get laid. - Chloe takes command of CTU for now. She put up a new motivational poster in Hastings’ old office: “SNARK HAPPENS” - RIP Agent Rowrrr. The city of New York is no longer safe. A pissed-off Jack Bauer is in it. * * * _24_, Season 8, Episodes 18 9:00 AM - 10:00 AM SPOILERS AHEAD! 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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2010, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-18-9-00am-10-00am/536692/2 "2010-04-20T01:00:29Z")
And here we go! ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2010, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-18-9-00am-10-00am/536692/3 "2010-04-20T01:03:02Z")
What a great bed side manner the surgeon has! ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2010, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-18-9-00am-10-00am/536692/4 "2010-04-20T01:07:56Z")
Wow. Jack realizes he didn’t know that much about Renee after all, and Chloe goes an one ups Jack. Chloe kinda took the Cliff’s notes on CTU management, eh? Then again, with the CTU track record of late, that is probably a good thing. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2010, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-18-9-00am-10-00am/536692/5 "2010-04-20T01:10:43Z")
Does Logan still get Secret Service protection? ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2010, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-18-9-00am-10-00am/536692/6 "2010-04-20T01:12:33Z")
I wouldn’t know the exact legals on that… I dropped watching when Logan flipped sides. I doubt that would ever happen in real life. Unbelievable, even for 24. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2010, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-18-9-00am-10-00am/536692/7 "2010-04-20T01:15:44Z")
## Logan showing some guts. “No, I’m not insinuating. I’m saying – it’s people in your government, firstly you.” I like Jack’s ploy with Daddy Russky. “I don’t know who kill moose and sqvirrel, but Dana Walsh knows”. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2010, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-18-9-00am-10-00am/536692/8 "2010-04-20T01:21:26Z")
Get between Jack and the person he wants to beat the shit out of more than anyone in the world. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2010, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-18-9-00am-10-00am/536692/9 "2010-04-20T01:22:23Z")
Yeah, Dana is the Brains? No sale. Unbelieveable, even for 24. I think they just painted themselves in a corner. But then again, I’m still not clear on how they had Video taping of Nina and Jayme at the end of the day, or how Jack can survive with his wonder hoody, or how Gael was apparently in a Nth degree deep sting operation or … ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2010, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-18-9-00am-10-00am/536692/10 "2010-04-20T01:22:35Z")
What’s with the agent that Logan wants reassigned? ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2010, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-18-9-00am-10-00am/536692/11 "2010-04-20T01:25:02Z")
Well, Logan’s still a conniving ass. > [@Meeko](#): > > Yeah, Dana is the Brains? > > No sale. I don’t think Dana is the brains of the outfit – she’s just the mole planted by the Russians, so she knows who she reports to. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2010, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-18-9-00am-10-00am/536692/12 "2010-04-20T01:26:28Z")
Chloe: “Stop him!” Cole: “Let him play, Chloe.” HAHAHA – Go Cole!!! ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2010, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-18-9-00am-10-00am/536692/13 "2010-04-20T01:28:50Z")
Yeah. What I mean by “They painted themselves in a corner” is simply that Dana was the only one left alive. so out of necessity, and not out of intelligence or coherence, she becomes a higher up position in the bad guy chain than she once was, impromptu. You would think that Kiefer\* would have learned from the past, and would have avoided such close calls like this. I mean, really? REALLY? you had how many seasons of this show, and you still have to squeak by with a buzzer beater shot? \*Sutherland has been producer for how many seasons now ? ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2010, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-18-9-00am-10-00am/536692/14 "2010-04-20T01:30:21Z")
> [@Monstre](#): > > Chloe: “Stop him!” > Cole: “Let him play, Chloe.” > > HAHAHA – Go Cole!!! I just liked how ambiguous the line was. “Let him play”. I mean at once we know from these types of shows, that 24 re-invented that “play” is the angle you have on a situation. But, the entire “play” lends more to cat and mouse, or just a wild wild crazed old man with nothing, NOTHING left to lose. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2010, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-18-9-00am-10-00am/536692/15 "2010-04-20T01:31:52Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > Yeah, Dana is the Brains? Says who? ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2010, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-18-9-00am-10-00am/536692/16 "2010-04-20T01:33:02Z")
Now, will Ethan get to deduce further, before he is taken out? ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2010, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-18-9-00am-10-00am/536692/17 "2010-04-20T01:34:07Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Says who? I thought that was what the Russian guy said, that Dana was more or less pulling all the strings. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2010, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-18-9-00am-10-00am/536692/18 "2010-04-20T01:37:05Z")
What was that Julius Caesar quote again? ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2010, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-18-9-00am-10-00am/536692/19 "2010-04-20T01:37:29Z")
I like Taylor’s response to Logan. Logan: “Bauer needs to be stopped!” Taylor: “Why?” ## Her expression on that “Why?” was perfect. I thought Logan was digging his own grave with Taylor, but looks like she is actually considering it. Boooo! ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2010, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-18-9-00am-10-00am/536692/20 "2010-04-20T01:37:45Z")
I think she was just the agent inserted into CTU, but she knows who did what to whom. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-18-9-00am-10-00am/536692.md?page=2)