# 24: Season 8: Episode 23-24 (2:00pm - 4:00pm) SERIES FINALE **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 24, 2010, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-23-24-2-00pm-4-00pm-series-finale/540633 "2010-05-24T23:15:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![fiddlesticks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddlesticks/32/18129_2.png) [@fiddlesticks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fiddlesticks)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2010, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-23-24-2-00pm-4-00pm-series-finale/540633/41 "2010-05-26T15:09:41Z")
Poor Arkansas probation agent Milton “Jimmy James” Waddams is rotting behind a partition wall at CTU forever. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2010, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-23-24-2-00pm-4-00pm-series-finale/540633/42 "2010-05-26T15:14:39Z")
> [@fiddlesticks](#): > > Poor Arkansas probation agent Milton “Jimmy James” Waddams is rotting behind a partition wall at CTU forever. ☹ But if indeed you find him not within this month, you shall nose him as you go up the stairs into the lobby. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2010, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-23-24-2-00pm-4-00pm-series-finale/540633/43 "2010-05-26T16:12:10Z")
Finally got around to watching it last night and the most nagging thing about it is that little speech Jack gave that apprently convinced the President to do the right thing just did not seem all that convincing to me. I mean I more or less agree with Jack’s sentiment, but there hardly seemed to be anything in there that would create some sort of "Come to Jesus’ moment for the President. But even more troubling is why did Logan even give it to her at that point? I mean why? Especially if he had watched and listened to it like he said. To be honest why would he give her the evidence implicating him. It just seemed so bizarre. The show suceeds not in being realistic, I gave up on that a long time ago and realized it was a live action comic book. So I enjoyed the season, but I really shouldn’t think too much about it, to be honest. The worst season was season 4 if I recall, if that was the one with nuclear football. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2010, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-23-24-2-00pm-4-00pm-series-finale/540633/44 "2010-05-26T17:10:09Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > The worst season was season 4 if I recall, if that was the one with nuclear football. You must be mistaken, season 4 was the last good season. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2010, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-23-24-2-00pm-4-00pm-series-finale/540633/45 "2010-05-26T17:28:01Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > You must be mistaken, season 4 was the last good season. Nope I googled it and I am right, season four was a disaster, the most convulted ridiculous plotline ever. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2010, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-23-24-2-00pm-4-00pm-series-finale/540633/46 "2010-05-26T18:01:29Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > the most convulted ridiculous plotline ever. You say that as though it were a _bad_ thing. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2010, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-23-24-2-00pm-4-00pm-series-finale/540633/47 "2010-05-26T18:18:36Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > You say that as though it were a _bad_ thing. Exactly. As convoluted as it was, season 4 was still the last good season. ---
**Author:** ![Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d9b06d/32.png) [@Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ichini_Sanshigo)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2010, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-23-24-2-00pm-4-00pm-series-finale/540633/48 "2010-05-26T18:26:29Z")
For me, season 4 was awful. I mean, _24_ had its stupid moments before, but it was still enjoyable and mostly well-put-together. The first three seasons were suspenseful and well-crafted. But the 4th season… it was just terrible. The suspense was broken by the stupidity of pretty much everyone. And the heavy-handed “torture is perfectly justifiable” moralizing was just the cherry on top of a shit cake. I enjoyed subsequent seasons, but that’s because I had to recalibrate my attitude towards the series. After 4, I didn’t take it seriously at all. ---
**Author:** ![ProfessorX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@ProfessorX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ProfessorX)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2010, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-23-24-2-00pm-4-00pm-series-finale/540633/49 "2010-05-26T18:39:50Z")
> [@Ichini\_Sanshigo](#): > > I enjoyed subsequent seasons, but that’s because I had to recalibrate my attitude towards the series. After 4, I didn’t take it seriously at all. Agree with that. It stopped by 24 at that point IMHO, and it started being “The Jack Bauer Action Hour” ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2010, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-23-24-2-00pm-4-00pm-series-finale/540633/50 "2010-05-26T22:18:43Z")
> [@Monstre](#): > > I’m also a little disappointed that the “Dana evidence” never got anywhere – falling back on the notion that the FBI confiscated the only copy. Jack uploaded a copy to his buddy (Michael Madsen), and certainly they would have made an extra copy or two from there, just in case. Seems dumb they didn’t make extra copies or upload it to youtube or whatever, but they at least did explain the buddy’s copy being gone. He wiped his system when he saw Cole coming. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2010, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-23-24-2-00pm-4-00pm-series-finale/540633/51 "2010-05-27T02:17:26Z")
I have to share this: [Jack sees dead people](http://cheezcomixed.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/129188740071424682.jpg). ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2010, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-23-24-2-00pm-4-00pm-series-finale/540633/52 "2010-05-28T02:52:01Z")
> [@Monstre](#): > > I’m also a little disappointed that the “Dana evidence” never got anywhere – falling back on the notion that the FBI confiscated the only copy. Jack uploaded a copy to his buddy (Michael Madsen), and certainly they would have made an extra copy or two from there, just in case. Sure, there’s the matter of getting it to the right people in time. I’m guessing this little thread will be picked up in the movie. I think it’ll end up that nerdy, scruffy beard dude was able to get enough–though not all–of the file Chloe started sending him. From these little “bits 'n bytes” of data there is enough evidence to move the plot-line forward (however suspect that plot-line may turn out to be). ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2010, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-23-24-2-00pm-4-00pm-series-finale/540633/53 "2010-05-28T16:19:13Z")
Finally finished watching the finale last night. Logan can’t even kill himself without having it go all wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2010, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-23-24-2-00pm-4-00pm-series-finale/540633/54 "2010-05-28T16:52:00Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > Finally finished watching the finale last night. > > Logan can’t even kill himself without having it go all wrong. Or as I’ve heard it put so eloquently, “He could fuck up a two car funeral.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episode-23-24-2-00pm-4-00pm-series-finale/540633.md?page=2)