# 24: Season 8: Episodes 3-4 (6:00pm - 8:00pm) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 18, 2010, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episodes-3-4-6-00pm-8-00pm/525487 "2010-01-18T23:51:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2010, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episodes-3-4-6-00pm-8-00pm/525487/41 "2010-01-19T04:51:55Z")
Renee has flipped the fuck out! I like. šŸ˜ƒ Couple of thoughts thus farā€¦ Iā€™m liking Prinze better than I thought I would. Heā€™s making a decent accounting of himself I think. I love Chloe to death, but the passive aggressiveness is a bit much at times. I thought Hastings was going to be ā€˜just an assholeā€™ at first but he seems to be coming around a bit now. I was surprised on Sunday night when he was willing to turn a blind eye to Chloe and Jackā€™s OP. He might still turn into a [Reasonable Authority Figure](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ReasonableAuthorityFigure) yet. He probably wonā€™t be as cool as Bill was but he has potential. Starbuck needs to stick a shiv in her ex-boyfriend as quickly as possible. She needs to nip this shit in the bud before he becomes a real problem. She doesnā€™t need this kind of distraction right now. Iā€™m enjoying this season a lot more right now than I have the previous few. Is this a return to form? Only time will tellā€¦ Renee was frigginā€™ awesome. (That bears repeating.) šŸ˜› ---
**Author:** ![tr0psn4j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@tr0psn4j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tr0psn4j)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2010, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episodes-3-4-6-00pm-8-00pm/525487/42 "2010-01-19T06:06:02Z")
Iā€™m glad they brought FBI Chick back! Renee was so hot the few seconds before she got to cutting off that guyā€™s hand. Also, is Chloe going to get to wield a gun this season? ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2010, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episodes-3-4-6-00pm-8-00pm/525487/43 "2010-01-19T06:39:39Z")
> [@Jihi](#): > > Iā€™m liking Prinze better than I thought I would. Heā€™s making a decent accounting of himself I think. Me too ā€“ Coleā€™s been a cool character so far. > [@](#): > > I thought Hastings was going to be ā€˜just an assholeā€™ at first but he seems to be coming around a bit now. ā€¦ He probably wonā€™t be as cool as Bill was but he has potential. Heā€™s still too much into that ā€œIā€™m so awesomely efficient and in controlā€ mode to be as cool as Bill yet. Time will tell. > [@](#): > > Starbuck needs to stick a shiv in her ex-boyfriend as quickly as possible. She needs to nip this shit in the bud before he becomes a real problem. She should introduce him to Agent Rowrrrr. I bet Renee would be glad to help. šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![HoldenCaulfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/22d042/32.png) [@HoldenCaulfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HoldenCaulfield)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2010, 8:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episodes-3-4-6-00pm-8-00pm/525487/44 "2010-01-19T08:57:42Z")
Does anyone else think Hassanā€™s brother looks like Jason Schwartzman? Itā€™s killing me. ---
**Author:** ![tr0psn4j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@tr0psn4j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tr0psn4j)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2010, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episodes-3-4-6-00pm-8-00pm/525487/45 "2010-01-19T15:26:12Z")
> [@HoldenCaulfield](#): > > Does anyone else think Hassanā€™s brother looks like Jason Schwartzman? Itā€™s killing me. Yes. A Middle Eastern Jason Schwartzman. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2010, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episodes-3-4-6-00pm-8-00pm/525487/46 "2010-01-19T15:39:18Z")
Why is Hastings always hunched over? Is he too tall for the set? Starbuck needs to space the ex. Send him right out the airlock. Why do the writers _always_ do this sort of story. It sucks every time. How is this going to be different from the hobbitā€™s story a season or two ago? Itā€™s good that people are starting to actually listen to Jack, though Hastingā€™s own ego got in the way for a second. At least he knew that Jack has the Pres on speed dial. Whereā€™s the story with the horn dog going? Bet he gets tied up in the Starbuck/Cole/ex mess. Some predictions: Renee doesnā€™t last the season Starbuck doesnā€™t last the season Horn Dog doesnā€™t last 8 hours Cole survives ---
**Author:** ![Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d9b06d/32.png) [@Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ichini_Sanshigo)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2010, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episodes-3-4-6-00pm-8-00pm/525487/47 "2010-01-19T16:28:36Z")
Wait, what??? How did I not know when 24 was coming back? How did I completely miss _two_ nights of this show!? Not to mention the associated commentary on here and on Dave Barryā€™s blog? OMGWTFBBQ, and I canā€™t even read the threads for fear of spoilage. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![LurkerInNJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ed655f/32.png) [@LurkerInNJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkerInNJ)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2010, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episodes-3-4-6-00pm-8-00pm/525487/48 "2010-01-19T16:34:35Z")
I missed a few minutes of the broadcast. What happened from the time Jack was being beaten up by the bad cop (after the asian cop went upstairs) until the time the asian cop started driving Jack to the UN. ---
**Author:** ![Baracus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/2bfe46/32.png) [@Baracus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baracus)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2010, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episodes-3-4-6-00pm-8-00pm/525487/49 "2010-01-19T16:35:16Z")
I was completely shocked that the police officer that helped Jack and drove him to the UN did NOT end up dead. My wife and I both agreed that he was not long for this world when he took off in the car with Jack, but then we didnā€™t see him again. ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2010, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episodes-3-4-6-00pm-8-00pm/525487/50 "2010-01-19T19:18:13Z")
Iā€™m enjoying this season so farā€¦ but I believe we have our first baffling bad-guy plot that makes no sense. So the bad guy plot is for the good guys to determine that thereā€™s an assassination plot, and that thereā€™s an inside person, and then theyā€™ll deduce that itā€™s Meredith, then find the file on her laptop, decrypt it, be fooled by the fake bomb threat, evacuate the UN, then as hassan is driven out, boom. So, two things make no sense at all: (1) the bad guys seemed to know exactly when hassan would be evacuated. How could they have known precisely how long it would take CTU to decrypt the file? (2) the whole plan hinges on CTU learning that thereā€™s an inside man. But CTU only learned that from the informant, who the bad guys were trying to kill! ---
**Author:** ![Stealth\_Potato](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Stealth\_Potato](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stealth_Potato)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2010, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episodes-3-4-6-00pm-8-00pm/525487/51 "2010-01-19T20:49:52Z")
> [@Ichini\_Sanshigo](#): > > Wait, what??? How did I not know when 24 was coming back? How did I completely miss _two_ nights of this show!? Not to mention the associated commentary on here and on Dave Barryā€™s blog? OMGWTFBBQ, and I canā€™t even read the threads for fear of spoilage. :smack: If youā€™re in the U.S., you can catch all four of the premiere episodes [on Hulu](http://www.hulu.com/24), at least for the rest of this week. > [@MaxTheVool](#): > > So, two things make no sense at all: > (1) the bad guys seemed to know exactly when hassan would be evacuated. How could they have known precisely how long it would take CTU to decrypt the file? > (2) the whole plan hinges on CTU learning that thereā€™s an inside man. But CTU only learned that from the informant, who the bad guys were trying to kill! They were only _sorta_ trying to kill him. Gotta keep up appearances, you know? šŸ˜ƒ (Orā€¦ maybe Mr. Aruz really knew about Farhadā€™s involvement, and Farhad, Davros, et al. were relying on CTU tracking down the lead through Ms. Reedā€™s computer. I can only assume that they were _not_ planning on Aruz getting Jack Bauer involved; surely the terrorists in 24-land have learned _that_ lesson by now. :p) ---
**Author:** ![mack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mack)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2010, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episodes-3-4-6-00pm-8-00pm/525487/52 "2010-01-19T20:52:57Z")
> [@LurkerInNJ](#): > > I missed a few minutes of the broadcast. > > What happened from the time Jack was being beaten up by the bad cop (after the asian cop went upstairs) until the time the asian cop started driving Jack to the UN. uhhhā€¦ letā€™s seeā€¦ Bad Cop winds up for the mother of all beat-downs (the preceding beat-down was just foreplay) and Jack manages to stand up and clock the guy in the face with the top of the chair. He then throws himself into the wall, breaking the chair. He takes a piece of chair and starts beating the bad cop (who crashed through drywall) with it and the asian cop comes down and orders both to stop it, waving pistol at both Jack and the Bad Cop. I think there might have been a confirmation that Jack was CTU in there somewhere. Asian cop calls the lieutenant to report it in, and Jack begs the asian cop to find out from the lieutenant what the cop who got killedā€™s duty assignment was. Upon finding out that it was a security detail at the UN I believe thatā€™s when they started driving to the UN. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2010, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episodes-3-4-6-00pm-8-00pm/525487/53 "2010-01-19T21:04:12Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > So, two things make no sense at all: > (1) the bad guys seemed to know exactly when hassan would be evacuated. How could they have known precisely how long it would take CTU to decrypt the file? > (2) the whole plan hinges on CTU learning that thereā€™s an inside man. But CTU only learned that from the informant, who the bad guys were trying to kill! I think with their plan foiled, they went with it as quickly as possible. ---
**Author:** ![Baracus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/2bfe46/32.png) [@Baracus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baracus)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2010, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episodes-3-4-6-00pm-8-00pm/525487/54 "2010-01-19T21:14:31Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > I think with their plan foiled, they went with it as quickly as possible. There you have it. They were going to wait and blow up Hasan when he drove over that manhole at some later time, but once CTU discovered there was a plot, they had to accelerate the schedule. Like all good 24-verse terrorists, they have a series of contingency plans in place. The first one being planting the files on the reporters laptop. Undoubtedly there is a mole in CTU and he/she stayed late one night last week to see how long it would take to decrypt the file, so they could plan accordingly. ---
**Author:** ![LurkerInNJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ed655f/32.png) [@LurkerInNJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkerInNJ)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2010, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episodes-3-4-6-00pm-8-00pm/525487/55 "2010-01-19T21:42:52Z")
> [@mack](#): > > uhhhā€¦ letā€™s seeā€¦ > > Bad Cop winds up for the mother of all beat-downs (the preceding beat-down was just foreplay) and Jack manages to stand up and clock the guy in the face with the top of the chair. He then throws himself into the wall, breaking the chair. He takes a piece of chair and starts beating the bad cop (who crashed through drywall) with it and the asian cop comes down and orders both to stop it, waving pistol at both Jack and the Bad Cop. I think there might have been a confirmation that Jack was CTU in there somewhere. > > Asian cop calls the lieutenant to report it in, and Jack begs the asian cop to find out from the lieutenant what the cop who got killedā€™s duty assignment was. Upon finding out that it was a security detail at the UN I believe thatā€™s when they started driving to the UN. Makes sense. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2010, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episodes-3-4-6-00pm-8-00pm/525487/56 "2010-01-19T22:03:12Z")
> [@Baracus](#): > > Like all good 24-verse terrorists, they have a series of contingency plans in place. But unlike all 24-verse terrorists, this one made sense. šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![tr0psn4j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@tr0psn4j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tr0psn4j)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2010, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episodes-3-4-6-00pm-8-00pm/525487/57 "2010-01-19T23:02:23Z")
Is it me or is this the best season in a LONG time? ---
**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2010, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episodes-3-4-6-00pm-8-00pm/525487/58 "2010-01-19T23:18:26Z")
> [@tr0psn4j](#): > > Is it me or is this the best season in a LONG time? Not just you. Iā€™m enjoying it a lot more than I thought I would. I think all the actors are much better this time. Itā€™s nice to see that team Jack and Chloe is not Americaā€™s only effective counter terrorist strategy. That at least we have decent agents like Ortiz on the job as well. And also the completely insane Agent Walker. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episodes-3-4-6-00pm-8-00pm/525487/59 "2010-01-20T01:42:20Z")
At least the terrorists who failed to kill Captain Acevedes\* donā€™t have to worry about reporting their failure, thanks to Jack Sure they screwed up, but Jack took care of the exit interview. \*A _The Shield_ reference for the dead informant. I like the actor (Benito Martinez) and was sad to see him gone so quickly. I was hoping he could be Jackā€™s whipping boy for another 6 or 7 episodes. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episodes-3-4-6-00pm-8-00pm/525487/60 "2010-01-20T21:24:39Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > Itā€™s good that people are starting to actually listen to Jack, though Hastingā€™s own ego got in the way for a second. At least he knew that Jack has the Pres on speed dial. And Jack can lord that over him all seasonā€¦! > [@MaxTheVool](#): > > So, two things make no sense at all: > (1) the bad guys seemed to know exactly when hassan would be evacuated. How could they have known precisely how long it would take CTU to decrypt the file? > (2) the whole plan hinges on CTU learning that thereā€™s an inside man. But CTU only learned that from the informant, who the bad guys were trying to kill! Hmmmmā€¦ good points. I think, though, that the assassination was supposed to take place later ā€“ so perhaps we donā€™t know what the _original_ complete plan was. After Davros took out the chopper and knew that the informant had reached CTU agents before, Davros made a call to the brother saying he needed to step up the assassination to a sooner time. Of course, he had already planted the encrypted-fake-bomb-threat file on Meredithā€™s laptop ā€“ so perhaps the original plan was to ā€œoutā€ her in some other way, like an anonymous tip phoned in, then wait for the bomb threat file to be deciphered (which had encryption that they knew CTU would be able to break in reasonably short order). I think the whole ā€œgoing to the cop buddyā€™s house and trying to get him to switch shiftsā€ bit was Davros stepping up the timetable. Sounds like the attempt was originally going to be later (like on his shift?). As for knowing exactly when Hassan would be evacuated ā€“ I doubt he knew that. He just got to the early shift instead, then waited for Farhad to phone him that the evacuation was starting, and what car Hassan was in. Of course, this still means Davros had to know WHAT the evacuation route would be ā€“ (only one exit from the UN parking structure?) ā€“ to know what manhole to plant the bomb in before everything started. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episodes-3-4-6-00pm-8-00pm/525487.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/24-season-8-episodes-3-4-6-00pm-8-00pm/525487.md?page=4)