# 25+ injured in Chelsea, NYC explosion **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 18, 2016, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-injured-in-chelsea-nyc-explosion/766233 "2016-09-18T02:39:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-injured-in-chelsea-nyc-explosion/766233/61 "2016-09-19T01:57:58Z")
> [@boffking](#): > > Didn’t Timothy McVeigh kill 168 people with exploding ammonium nitrate? Not without mixing it with another substance (I seem to recall he used a couple of other substances). ---
**Author:** ![keeganst94](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a6a055/32.png) [@keeganst94](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/keeganst94)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-injured-in-chelsea-nyc-explosion/766233/62 "2016-09-19T02:17:02Z")
Per wikipedia, you mix it with 6% fuel oil to make an explosive called ANFO, but you need to use another explosive, like dynamite, to detonate it. The Texas disaster was apparently caused by firefighters pumping in steam, pressurizing and superheating the ammonium nitrate. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-injured-in-chelsea-nyc-explosion/766233/63 "2016-09-19T02:33:32Z")
> [@boffking](#): > > Didn’t Timothy McVeigh kill 168 people with exploding ammonium nitrate? No he used ANFO of which ammonium nitrate is one component. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-injured-in-chelsea-nyc-explosion/766233/64 "2016-09-19T05:04:27Z")
[Another bomb has been found at the train station in Elizabeth, New Jersey.](http://www.nj.com/union/index.ssf/2016/09/suspicious_package_found_at_elizabeth_train_statio.html) ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-injured-in-chelsea-nyc-explosion/766233/65 "2016-09-19T05:12:16Z")
5 in custody. No charges yet. > **[5 being questioned in probe of NYC blast: source](https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/fbi-takes-several-into-custody-with-possible-connection-to-chelsea-bombing/)** > > All were in car pulled over on Brooklyn highway; unclear what made vehicle suspicious > [@](#): > > “Update from the NYPD: About an hour ago, the FBI took several individuals into custody on the Belt Parkway in the area underneath the Verrazano Bridge, with a possible connection to the bombing last night in Chelsea,” Golden posted on Instagram. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-injured-in-chelsea-nyc-explosion/766233/66 "2016-09-19T06:10:00Z")
So… trolls? ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-injured-in-chelsea-nyc-explosion/766233/68 "2016-09-19T12:49:00Z")
Ahmed Rahami from Elizabeth NJ sought for the NYC bombing. Right now they are not officially linking him to the other bombs. > **[Ahmad Khan Rahami Is Arrested in Manhattan and New Jersey Bombings (Published...](https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/20/nyregion/nyc-nj-explosions-ahmad-khan-rahami.html?referer=https:%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F)** > > Mr. Rahami, 28, was taken into custody on Monday after he was wounded in a shootout with the police in New Jersey, law enforcement officials said. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-injured-in-chelsea-nyc-explosion/766233/69 "2016-09-19T15:42:12Z")
Got him. Very glad the officer will be ok. > [@](#): > > Ahmad Rahami, a naturalized 28-year-old native of Afghanistan, was taken into custody after a gun battle with police in Linden, New Jersey, four law enforcement sources said. > > At least one officer was shot in the chest during the takedown, but was not seriously wounded because he was wearing a bullet proof vest. Rahami was also wounded in the shootout and is en route to a hospital. The extent of his injuries was not clear. > **[NY, NJ Bombing Suspect Ahmad Rahami Charged With Attempted Murder After...](https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/nyc-possible-lead-man-seen-surveillance-video-chelsea-bomb-blast/581654/)** > > Ahmad Rahami, the naturalized 28-year-old native of Afghanistan hunted in connection with a series of bombings in New York City and New Jersey over the weekend, has been charged with five counts of attempted murder of a law enforcement officer after... ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-injured-in-chelsea-nyc-explosion/766233/70 "2016-09-19T15:42:19Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > Ahmed Rahami from Elizabeth NJ sought for the NYC bombing. Right now they are not officially linking him to the other bombs. > > [http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/09/20/nyregion/nyc-nj-explosions-ahmad-khan-rahami.html?referer=https://www.google.com/](http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/09/20/nyregion/nyc-nj-explosions-ahmad-khan-rahami.html?referer=https://www.google.com/) Suspect arrested after a shootout. NBC was the first to report, CNN is now running the story. Very quick work by law enforcement. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-injured-in-chelsea-nyc-explosion/766233/71 "2016-09-19T16:14:33Z")
Fingerprint on the bomb lead to the suspect. That’s pretty definitive they got the right guy. No word yet if the car with 5 people stopped under the railway bridge are involved. Last report said they were being questioned by FBI. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-injured-in-chelsea-nyc-explosion/766233/72 "2016-09-19T16:16:24Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > Suspect arrested after a shootout. NBC was the first to report, CNN is now running the story. Very quick work by law enforcement. Astoundingly fast work! If he’s the right guy, I have to give huge props to the LEO who worked this case. Good job, folks! ETA: AP story here: [http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US\_MANHATTAN\_EXPLOSION?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-09-19-12-10-17](http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_MANHATTAN_EXPLOSION?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-09-19-12-10-17) ---
**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-injured-in-chelsea-nyc-explosion/766233/73 "2016-09-19T16:28:05Z")
It doesn’t look like the guy ever intended to cover his tracks, not just the fingerprints but cell phones and other clues from the unexploded bombs (safe to call them bombs now?). ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-injured-in-chelsea-nyc-explosion/766233/74 "2016-09-19T16:30:52Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > No word yet if the car with 5 people stopped under the railway bridge are involved. Last report said they were being questioned by FBI. Unconfirmed through outside sources but I’ve heard it was family members of the suspect. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-injured-in-chelsea-nyc-explosion/766233/75 "2016-09-19T16:38:24Z")
> [@Duke\_of\_Rat](#): > > It doesn’t look like the guy ever intended to cover his tracks, not just the fingerprints but cell phones and other clues from the unexploded bombs (safe to call them bombs now?). He probably figured the phone evidence would be destroyed by the bomb. I wonder how his fingerprints came to be on record? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-injured-in-chelsea-nyc-explosion/766233/76 "2016-09-19T16:41:31Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > He probably figured the phone evidence would be destroyed by the bomb. > I wonder how his fingerprints came to be on record? I thought it was now SOP to take fingerprints of new immigrants; is that incorrect? ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-injured-in-chelsea-nyc-explosion/766233/77 "2016-09-19T16:48:17Z")
I think you need fingerprinting just to apply. ---
**Author:** ![leahcim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b4bc9f/32.png) [@leahcim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leahcim)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-injured-in-chelsea-nyc-explosion/766233/78 "2016-09-19T16:59:02Z")
There “Emergency Alerts” function on every cellphone in the area went off this morning giving the name of the suspect. I wonder if the quick capture is as a result of that. Not too far removed from the cyberpunk trope of the protagonist’s face suddenly appearing on every screen in the area. ---
**Author:** ![Driver8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5a626/32.png) [@Driver8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Driver8)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-injured-in-chelsea-nyc-explosion/766233/79 "2016-09-19T17:00:57Z")
I can’t actually remember if I was fingerprinted at any point during my green card or naturalization applications. I’d put money on “yes, I’ve just forgotten”. I do remember that you get fingerprinted when entering the US on a foreign passport. That seems a likely event in the history of someone who ended up naturalized. Once I had a green card I was just waved through with only the most cursory of glances at my documents. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-injured-in-chelsea-nyc-explosion/766233/80 "2016-09-19T17:01:33Z")
> [@leahcim](#): > > There “Emergency Alerts” function on every cellphone in the area went off this morning giving the name of the suspect. I wonder if the quick capture is as a result of that. Not too far removed from the cyberpunk trope of the protagonist’s face suddenly appearing on every screen in the area. No, that doesn’t appear to have been a factor. From [the AP story I linked earlier: > [@](#): > > Linden Mayor Derek Armstead said that late Monday morning, the owner of a bar reported someone asleep in his doorway. A police officer went to investigate and recognized the man as Rahami, police and the mayor said. > > Rahami pulled a gun and shot the officer - who was wearing a bulletproof vest - in the torso, and more officers joined in a running gun battle along the street and brought Rahami down, police Capt. James Sarnicki said. ]([http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US\_MANHATTAN\_EXPLOSION?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-09-19-12-10-17](http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_MANHATTAN_EXPLOSION?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-09-19-12-10-17)) ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-injured-in-chelsea-nyc-explosion/766233/81 "2016-09-19T18:03:08Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > Ahmed Rahami from Elizabeth NJ sought for the NYC bombing. Right now they are not officially linking him to the other bombs. > > [http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/09/20/nyregion/nyc-nj-explosions-ahmad-khan-rahami.html?referer=https://www.google.com/](http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/09/20/nyregion/nyc-nj-explosions-ahmad-khan-rahami.html?referer=https://www.google.com/) Per AP Radio News, the FBI now says Rahami is linked to Saturday’s bombs. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-injured-in-chelsea-nyc-explosion/766233.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-injured-in-chelsea-nyc-explosion/766233.md?page=5)