# 25+ injured in Chelsea, NYC explosion

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [September 18, 2016, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-injured-in-chelsea-nyc-explosion/766233 "2016-09-18T02:39:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-injured-in-chelsea-nyc-explosion/766233/82 "2016-09-19T19:26:18Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> Unconfirmed through outside sources but I’ve heard it was family members of the suspect.

The FBI said this morning at the press conference that they had seen the van at the scene of the suspect’s home.

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-injured-in-chelsea-nyc-explosion/766233/83 "2016-09-19T19:30:28Z")

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> [@Duke\_of\_Rat](#):
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> It doesn’t look like the guy ever intended to cover his tracks, not just the fingerprints but cell phones and other clues from the unexploded bombs (safe to call them bombs now?).

Or he planned Suicide by Cop so it wouldn’t matter.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-injured-in-chelsea-nyc-explosion/766233/84 "2016-09-19T19:31:45Z")

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Assuming the best about the rest of his family (and I am aware of no reason not to do so), this jackass has likely doomed his family’s business with his actions.

[Yelpers Are Trashing the Restaurant Owned by the NYC Bombing Suspect’s Family

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> Now, the Yelp page for First American Fried Chicken is being trashed by commenters, many of whom are decrying the restaurant as a breeding ground for terrorism and posting tasteless jokes about pressure cookers and pulled pork sandwiches.

]([Yelpers Are Trashing the Restaurant Owned by the NYC Bombing Suspect’s Family](https://munchies.vice.com/en/articles/yelpers-are-trashing-the-restaurant-owned-by-the-nyc-bombing-suspects-family))

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-injured-in-chelsea-nyc-explosion/766233/85 "2016-09-19T19:39:50Z")

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Some bleeding heart will start a fund me campaign and they’ll get a million dollars.

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**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-injured-in-chelsea-nyc-explosion/766233/86 "2016-09-19T19:58:28Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Assuming the best about the rest of his family (and I am aware of no reason not to do so), this jackass has likely doomed his family’s business with his actions.
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> [Yelpers Are Trashing the Restaurant Owned by the NYC Bombing Suspect’s Family](https://munchies.vice.com/en/articles/yelpers-are-trashing-the-restaurant-owned-by-the-nyc-bombing-suspects-family)

Reading the news stories this morning, there were accounts of how the restaurant wasn’t particularly popular with nearby residents. It was open 24 hours and drew a rowdy clientele, had been in a battle with the city over it, and the dad said the complaints were because of his ethnicity. The Street View taken August 2016 shows a Century 21 sign in the window, but it’s not currently listed with Century 21 that I could find.

ETA: The accounts said the food was good, but the after hours crowd was the problem.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-injured-in-chelsea-nyc-explosion/766233/87 "2016-09-19T20:03:53Z")

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Well, that was fast police work (And surely soon there will be reported all sorts of “missed clues” as if LEAs could be omnipresent and prescient).

And I suppose it IS plausible that he expected once he acted it was just a matter of time before going down in a SBC blaze. Good to know that officer’s gear protected him.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-injured-in-chelsea-nyc-explosion/766233/88 "2016-09-19T20:21:02Z")

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> [@ivylass](#):
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> Or he planned Suicide by Cop so it wouldn’t matter.

Not if he was involved in a two block running battle.

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-injured-in-chelsea-nyc-explosion/766233/89 "2016-09-19T20:42:04Z")

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You don’t think he wanted to take out as many police officers as he could before being mowed down?

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-injured-in-chelsea-nyc-explosion/766233/90 "2016-09-19T21:27:20Z")

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> [@ivylass](#):
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> You don’t think he wanted to take out as many police officers as he could before being mowed down?

Probably not terribly intelligent and frustrated. “Hell, I’ll kill some infidels. Nothin’ else going on.”

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-injured-in-chelsea-nyc-explosion/766233/91 "2016-09-19T21:44:06Z")

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The chicken place is 3 blocks east of Warinanco Park… and it looks like EPD capped his skanky ass by Euroworx Auto Body on Elizabeth Ave, about 15 blocks south of the chicken place.

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Forgot to add: Bar? What bar? There’s no bar around there…

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-injured-in-chelsea-nyc-explosion/766233/92 "2016-09-19T21:49:50Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> He probably figured the phone evidence would be destroyed by the bomb.  
> I wonder how his fingerprints came to be on record?

My wife was fingerprinted by the US government just for her student and tourist visas, not to mention her Immigrant Visa. Every foreigner who ever enters the US has fingerprints in the database.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-injured-in-chelsea-nyc-explosion/766233/93 "2016-09-19T22:48:17Z")

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As I mentioned in the Trump-campaign thread, Trump was just shown on CNN addressing a rally where he complained bitterly that Rahami was going to be given medical care.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-injured-in-chelsea-nyc-explosion/766233/94 "2016-09-19T22:55:08Z")

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> [@Count\_Blucher](#):
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> The chicken place is 3 blocks east of Warinanco Park… and it looks like EPD capped his skanky ass by Euroworx Auto Body on Elizabeth Ave, about 15 blocks south of the chicken place.
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> Forgot to add: Bar? What bar? There’s no bar around there…

He was in Linden. It is a bar called Merdies Tavern.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-injured-in-chelsea-nyc-explosion/766233/95 "2016-09-19T23:11:38Z")

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Rahami could have killed a lot of people using a slow poison in the restaurant’s fried chicken batter.

Thankful that he didn’t go that route. His bombs weren’t very good. The Chelsea bomb was the only one that hurt anybody.

Very glad he’s locked up and can’t hurt anyone else.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-injured-in-chelsea-nyc-explosion/766233/96 "2016-09-20T00:00:51Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> As I mentioned in the Trump-campaign thread, Trump was just shown on CNN addressing a rally where he complained bitterly that Rahami was going to be given medical care.

As opposed to chaining him somewhere near the site of the World Trade Center and watching him die of gangrene?

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-injured-in-chelsea-nyc-explosion/766233/97 "2016-09-20T02:59:01Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> Rahami could have killed a lot of people using a slow poison in the restaurant’s fried chicken batter.

I dont think that that method is as easy as you think.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-injured-in-chelsea-nyc-explosion/766233/98 "2016-09-20T03:05:08Z")

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> I dont think that that method is as easy as you think.

Agatha Christie could suggest something that would work. She researched poisons for her books.

I guess the terrorists find it easier getting instructions for bombs from the web.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-injured-in-chelsea-nyc-explosion/766233/99 "2016-09-20T03:50:05Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> Rahami could have killed a lot of people using a slow poison in the restaurant’s fried chicken batter.
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> Thankful that he didn’t go that route. His bombs weren’t very good. The Chelsea bomb was the only one that hurt anybody.
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> Very glad he’s locked up and can’t hurt anyone else.

The New Jersey roadrace bomb might have harmed somebody, but they postponed the beginning of the race.

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**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-injured-in-chelsea-nyc-explosion/766233/100 "2016-09-20T16:05:25Z")

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Beginning to look like the guy was turning full on jihadi, had a little notebook with his ramblings in it. And was known to the FBI.

> **[Ahmad Khan Rahami Was Inspired by Bin Laden, Charges Say (Published 2016)](https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/21/nyregion/ahmad-khan-rahami-suspect.html?_r=0)**
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> One day after Mr. Rahami, the suspect in the Manhattan and New Jersey bombings, was taken into custody, investigators on Tuesday were learning more about what might have motivated the attack.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-injured-in-chelsea-nyc-explosion/766233/101 "2016-09-20T17:01:35Z")

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Is the Chelsea neighborhood still predominantly gay? That may explain why this guy placed his bombs there. Numerous stories have brought up his prejudice towards the gay community. Targeting them would be a hate crime.

Not sure how up to date this article is. It mentions a large&nbsp;LGBTQ&nbsp;population in Chelsea.

> **[Chelsea, Manhattan](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelsea,_Manhattan)**
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> Chelsea is a neighborhood on the West Side of the borough of Manhattan in New York City. The area's boundaries are roughly 14th Street to the south, the Hudson River and West Street to the west, and Sixth Avenue to the east, with its northern boundary variously described as near the upper 20s
> or 34th Street, the next major crosstown street to the north. To the northwest of Chelsea is the neighborhood of Hell's Kitchen, as well as Hudson Yards; to the northeast are the Garment District Chelsea c...

The NJ race was probably targeted because of the connection to the Marines.

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