# 25 things which make it hard for me to believe in God **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [February 28, 2009, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-things-which-make-it-hard-for-me-to-believe-in-god/487785 "2009-02-28T12:45:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2009, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-things-which-make-it-hard-for-me-to-believe-in-god/487785/21 "2009-02-28T19:32:20Z")
> [@Weston](#): > > I think it would be nice if I could believe in God but the following things make it really hard. …That’s about all I can come up with. I’m sure smart people who’ve studied this could come up with loads more. I dont want to offend anyone. This post is the product of an existential crisis. I really do want these questions answered so I can have a chance to believe. That is a looooong post. Tell me, why, you an athiest, do you so desparately want to believe in God? What’s the upside ? ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2009, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-things-which-make-it-hard-for-me-to-believe-in-god/487785/22 "2009-02-28T21:32:28Z")
> [@smiling\_bandit](#): > > Well, I’m gonna help you out. You possibly picked the wrong place to ask these questions. This I agree with. If the OP was really looking for ways to understand religion and is honestly seeking some reason to find god, a place populated by intelligent non believers is not a good bet. (or as smiling bandit calls us “arrogantly ignorant unbelievers.”) The entire rest of the post has done more to confirm my conviction that there is no god than all of Sam Harris’ and Christopher Hitchens’ writings I have ever read. “feasts everlasting. . . . gold and silver a-plenty.” oh my. ---
**Author:** ![Razncain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9d8465/32.png) [@Razncain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Razncain)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2009, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-things-which-make-it-hard-for-me-to-believe-in-god/487785/23 "2009-02-28T21:59:52Z")
**smiling bandit** you’re probably sending more to Hell with these kind of illogical answers. Jehovah/Yahweh/God says to get back out there and make believers out of all of ‘em or he’ll have your ass in a slinger. > [@](#): > > It’s God we’re talking about here. This a creature which is primal, eternal, incomprehensible. If God is incomprehensible as you claim, why are you speaking as if you know something about Him? To date there are over 30,000 different sects of just Protestantism alone, with many as long-winded as you speaking on behalf of what many consider to be an incomprehensible God. > [@](#): > > You possibly piced the wrong place to ask these questions. if you really want to talk about it, find a well-educated pastor and ask him about it. Finding one might be difficult. Chances are if the pastor is well-educated, he probably educated himself right out of his faith. This happens all the time. Schools such as Harvard, Yale, Princeton and others started out as conservative Christian seminaries, but wouldn’t be considered that today. You keep on recruiting the best students, and hiring the brightest professors, there soon won’t be much left of that _ole time religion._ Also evidence gathered from clergyman in the more mainline liberal Protestant groups in CA many years back also showed half of them having serious personal doubts about the existence of God, and only one-third believed in the divinity of Jesus. So, more than likely you’re probably not going to get a straight answer from many of them in the pulpit or in a church setting. Can’t blame ‘em really. They have a lot at stake including their livelihood, and supporting their family. > [@](#): > > Here you will find the arrogantly ignorant unbelievers, who hate the very idea that someone might see something they do not. You will get no serious answers from them, only mockery and hate. Sounds like the hate is coming from you. Here it’s a level playing field, and I can’t think of a better place for him to bring out such questions; although I agree to keep ‘em on the farm, one mustn’ come here. Your tone is more than a bit arrogant and your answers are sort of the ones that probably wouldn’t even work on a child, must less an adult. Absurd answers deserve mockery, so no surprise if some follow suit with that. Most Bible believers realize that book is often filled with ridiculous things that one should believe, so it shouldn’t be any surprise there either if one holds these up to the light of ridicule as well. > [@](#): > > Well, Christians somewhat disagree on this. We know “Why” he did it: to savemankind from sin and death. We don’t know exactly why he did in that manner. It was his choice and not ours. What exactly did work? The majority of the world still isn’t buying into this con, including some that profess to be Christians, and it’s absurd to think if God hadn’t killed Himself or his Son temporarily (pick one or both, most believers do), that the world would have come to an end. Also, St. Irenaeus a early church father writing a short time after the Gospels are written thinks the [Gospels are heresy](http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0103222.htm) in regards to Jesus’ early death. > [@](#): > > God has a dynamic but eternal nature. He is real, and like all real things his reality puts certain limits. He must be good, and is good, and is goodness itself. He can’t do evil, and he can’t pass up doing good just because someone else might not like it. If the God you’re describing is the one laid out in the Bible, what would happen if one were to try to emulate his behavior? They would either be locked up, or committed to an insane asylum. > [@](#): > > No miracles? Oh, I don’t believe that. But God is not a trick-performing pony to prance around for your amusement. He comes and goes when he pleases, as he pleases, and communicates as he wishes. Translation: I believe in miracles although they don’t really occur, and I will never have one scintilla of evidence for them; never be able to demonstrate one either now or in the future, however, I like to think they occur because I’ve read in a book that said they did. Ergo, wishful thinking appeals to me more than critical thinking. > [@](#): > > The Bibkle is the Bible. It is the best source we have now. But no book, not it if it were a trillion miles long with pages the size of planets, could encompass God’s glory. The Bible is intended for everyone. It has elements of poetry, myth, philosphy, history, and mystery. And don’t forget that to add plenty of foolishness to save them so that they might believe, says St. Paul. > [@](#): > > Frankly, I think you haven’t given this any thought at all, and are conflating words. Perhaps some are thinking the same of you. I certainly am. > [@](#): > > But perhas you are thinking you’re a mite smarter than any of us are, and maybe you haven’t really considere things carefully. Christianity is not a faith; it is the whole world. And in point of fact, the plain matter is that no Christian is going to be able to answer all the questions you might have. But you ought, if you are serious, to try to educate yourself on the matter first and question it second. Education will hinder not help in your religious belief system. This has been brought out in many studies of where higher education tends to not get ‘em back on the farm again. Also 93% of scientists at the prestigious and distinguished NAS (National Academy of Sciences)are agnostic or atheist, and depending on which brand of Christianity you adhere too, more than likely they will all be damned for their intellect. You, OTOH, need not worry. razncain ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2009, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-things-which-make-it-hard-for-me-to-believe-in-god/487785/24 "2009-02-28T22:03:14Z")
> [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#): > > That is a looooong post. > > Tell me, why, you an athiest, do you so desparately want to believe in God? What’s the upside ? As someone who wants to believe but finds it close to impossible, I think I can answer this. When I’m not feeling well or I’m going through hard times, the first words of comfort that people offer are often religious in nature. Put it in God’s hands. Let God handle it. Ask God to help you. You can do all things in Christ that strengthens you. The Lord doesn’t give you anything you can’t handle. If I was a believer, these words would actually comfort me rather than piss me off. It would be wonderful to have a supreme being full of love and compassion, who knows your every wish, and would never let anything bad happen to you. Who wouldn’t want to have such an entity in their corner? Also, socially speaking, it’s easier to believe. My parents are very devout. When they aren’t at the casino, they’re at church. I like having philosophical discussions with them, but as such as they mention God and Jesus, my brain turns off. I hate that. I’d also like to tell my mother about my mental health issues, but she’s unable to divorce the mind from the soul. Jesus can’t fix her arthritis or her diabetes, but apparently he can cure me of depression. As long as I ask him to. If I could just flip a switch and turn myself into a believer, I would. Even though I’d be irrational and delusional, maybe I’d be a happier and hopeful person. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Robson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gary_robson/32/3448_2.png) [@Gary\_Robson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Robson)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2009, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-things-which-make-it-hard-for-me-to-believe-in-god/487785/25 "2009-02-28T22:04:10Z")
> [@razncain](#): > > Not so, miracles of biblical proportions are occurring even today. Are you ready for this? Here’s Benny Hinn at work, showing what he can do with his faith, just [let the bodies hit the floor,](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lvU-DislkI&feature=related) that someone else set to rock music. Pretty impressive stuff, eh? What the _hell_ is going on in that video? ---
**Author:** ![TooSchoolforCool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tooschoolforcool/32/19621_2.png) [@TooSchoolforCool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TooSchoolforCool)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2009, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-things-which-make-it-hard-for-me-to-believe-in-god/487785/26 "2009-02-28T22:24:52Z")
> [@](#): > > What Christians all agree on is that nomatter how we think or understand what he did, it worked. Some would say he paid a moral debt, others that he satisfied the demands of justice, still others that by becoming a pure sacrifice he broke open the prison of this world for us. But that’s not the thing we believe: that’s a theory of how the thing worked. But we do know why he did it: he loves us utterly. By this logic, or rather, by this lack of logic, the story could involve a bunch of animated vegetables hitting each other with fish, and God made THAT happen because he loves us utterly and this somehow brings us salvation. If you can’t explain the theory, then you have nothing but blind faith that the act in question has anything to do with anything. And if that’s the case, fine, but it’s silly to present something like the crucifixion as if it were any sort of argument for or against some moral belief or duty or understanding of how the world works. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2009, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-things-which-make-it-hard-for-me-to-believe-in-god/487785/27 "2009-02-28T22:28:28Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > This I agree with. If the OP was really looking for ways to understand religion and is honestly seeking some reason to find god, a place populated by intelligent non believers is not a good bet. (or as smiling bandit calls us “arrogantly ignorant unbelievers.”) A charismatic salesman/preacher is a far better bet if the OP wants someone to talk him into belief. ---
**Author:** ![DrCube](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a3d4f5/32.png) [@DrCube](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrCube)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2009, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-things-which-make-it-hard-for-me-to-believe-in-god/487785/28 "2009-02-28T22:30:48Z")
> [@WhyNot](#): > > And I strongly suggest you check out some other religions - namely, based on what you’ve said here, Buddhism - before deciding that the whole concept of religion is not for you. I can well believe Christianity isn’t, but something else may be. "And our special today is a Zen Buddhism: a light, airy religion that is easy on the cerebrum and won’t tax your credulity. If a heftier, meatier religion is your style, we offer Islam, complete with 5 daily prayers, foreign languages, pilgrimages, and misogyny. For those with a funny bone, we also offer the classic Old Time Religion: Rural American Protestantism, awash in a spicy glaze of fire and brimstone, with a touch of snake handling and faith healing for that real “Old Time” feel. As always, we advise against making a rash decision. Take your time, go over the menu. We offer over a thousand current – and many more historical – religions, from the high tech Scientology and Heaven’s Gate, to the more Luddite, such as Mennonites and Jainism. If you have any questions, your server will be with you shortly. If you’re a rock star, don’t forget to try the sampler platter!" ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2009, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-things-which-make-it-hard-for-me-to-believe-in-god/487785/29 "2009-02-28T22:56:21Z")
> [@smiling\_bandit](#): > > Here you will find the arrogantly ignorant unbelievers, who hate the very idea that someone might see something they do not. No; we simply don’t believe you aare seeing anything real. And you have no evidence to back up your claims. If there’s arrogance here, it’s the beleivers who declare that what they want to believe MUST be true regardless of evidence or logic. > [@smiling\_bandit](#): > > Well, Christians somewhat disagree on this. We know “Why” he did it: to savemankind from sin and death. We don’t know exactly why he did in that manner. It was his choice and not ours. That’s simply illogical. Given that the one condemning us was HIM, God could have just **stopped**. > [@smiling\_bandit](#): > > There’s never a natural explanation for God curing someone of leprosy, or demonic possession. Sure there is. “It didn’t happen.” > [@smiling\_bandit](#): > > Terminally ill kids. > > > [@](#): > > > > And what? We believe that another power, a power of sin and death, which rejected God and his gifts and now claims this world, made sin and death. Or rather, corrupted good things into sin and death. We are engaged in fighting that power. Now, it is true that God has been known to send his faithful into suffering, and even encourages them to rejoice in the suffering. He often sends the one who please him best into the hardest and longest suffering. Congratulations; you’ve helps underline why I would despise your God even if he existed. And demonstrated the sociopathy of Christianity; "Terminally ill kids ? So What ?! " I mean it’s not like an omnipotent being could cure cancer. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2009, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-things-which-make-it-hard-for-me-to-believe-in-god/487785/30 "2009-02-28T23:16:14Z")
> [@Weston](#): > > I think it would be nice if I could believe in God but the following things make it really hard. > … > Also, we’re going to discuss the basics of the Christian story. That is, the idea that God sent Jesus to redeem our sins and that Jesu was cricified, rose after 3 days and all of that. Although you make fair points, the big two are: - Judaism (which shares the Old Testament with Christianity) states that Jesus is not the Messiah. So at least one of these two religions is completely wrong - and also they never discuss it nor provide any reason to choose between them. - the only ‘evidence’ that Jesus rose from the dead is the claims in the four Gospels. But the verses covering the discovery of the empty tomb and then meeting the risen Jesus are full of contradictions. And if Jesus didn’t arise, there’s nothing to worship. ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-things-which-make-it-hard-for-me-to-believe-in-god/487785/31 "2009-03-01T00:32:24Z")
> [@DrCube](#): > > "And our special today is a Zen Buddhism: a light, airy religion that is easy on the cerebrum and won’t tax your credulity. If a heftier, meatier religion is your style, we offer Islam, complete with 5 daily prayers, foreign languages, pilgrimages, and misogyny. For those with a funny bone, we also offer the classic Old Time Religion: Rural American Protestantism, awash in a spicy glaze of fire and brimstone, with a touch of snake handling and faith healing for that real “Old Time” feel. > > As always, we advise against making a rash decision. Take your time, go over the menu. We offer over a thousand current – and many more historical – religions, from the high tech Scientology and Heaven’s Gate, to the more Luddite, such as Mennonites and Jainism. If you have any questions, your server will be with you shortly. If you’re a rock star, don’t forget to try the sampler platter!" [singsong]Sounds like someone’s a [UU](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unitarian_Universalism)er! [/ss] 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-things-which-make-it-hard-for-me-to-believe-in-god/487785/32 "2009-03-01T03:17:24Z")
Once you can think of one reason, you’re on the path to true righteousness. I’m willing to bet that your list of 25 took about 30 minutes or less. Why should we stop there? We should build this list. Use it as a distribution flyer. Let belivers read it and decide. With a big enough list, any beliver can find one list item that truly hits home, making them question the validity of their personal belief system. ---
**Author:** ![Vox\_Imperatoris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Vox\_Imperatoris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vox_Imperatoris)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-things-which-make-it-hard-for-me-to-believe-in-god/487785/33 "2009-03-01T03:42:44Z")
> [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#): > > That is a looooong post. > > Tell me, why, you an athiest, do you so desparately want to believe in God? What’s the upside ? I can’t answer for him, but the answer is pretty obvious for why I would want to believe—I want to live forever. > [@Weston](#): > > Why, if _we_ are the warm, fuzzy centre of all creation, is the universe so incredibly massive? I mean, have you ever _seen_ a pictrre of the known universe? I saw one on astronomy picture of the day. Its unbelievable! There’s something like 40 _billion_ galaxies, each with about 100 _billion_ stars. And that’s only the stuff we know about! It seems so _arrogant_ to bvelieve that of all that, there’s oinly one species on one planet in one solar system in one galaxy that actually matters. I don’t have a problem with most of your points, but I’ve never liked this argument. Why _shouldn’t_ it be massive? It’s not arrogant to say that it all belongs to us until someone else comes along to tell us otherwise. All that space is just more for humanity to one day conquer. Valete, Vox Imperatoris ---
**Author:** ![Lust4Life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecc23a/32.png) [@Lust4Life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lust4Life)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-things-which-make-it-hard-for-me-to-believe-in-god/487785/34 "2009-03-01T04:04:28Z")
I think that the solution as to whether there is a god and if so what is its nature will be found within the laws of physics,Quantum and otherwise,when we know a hell of a lot more about them then we know today. If the minute electrical charges and chemical processes within our bodies produce life and sentience then surely the incredible energies,atomic reactions and the other properties in our awesomely large local universe alone might be capable of producing immensly powerful entities that as far as we on Earth are concerned are godlike if not actually gods. This doesn’t mean that their thinking processes and concerns are even remotely to do with humanity which could be just an irrelevancy in the greater scope of an infinite,eternal,multidimensional multiverse.(Which wouldn’t actually need a creator having always existed and always will exist) But we wouldn’t be able to understand more then a minute amount of any plan of gods if there is such a thing. . ---
**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-things-which-make-it-hard-for-me-to-believe-in-god/487785/35 "2009-03-01T04:16:28Z")
Well I am an ordained minister of the Universal Life Church and I must say that the OP has once again confirmed my disbelief in the existence of God. Thank whatever for that. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-things-which-make-it-hard-for-me-to-believe-in-god/487785/36 "2009-03-01T05:05:03Z")
> [@smiling\_bandit](#): > > He often sends the one who please him best into the hardest and longest suffering. Nothing says love like homebaked cookies and torture. ---
**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-things-which-make-it-hard-for-me-to-believe-in-god/487785/37 "2009-03-01T05:28:56Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > Nothing says love like homebaked cookies and torture. I thought the torture was outsourced? ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-things-which-make-it-hard-for-me-to-believe-in-god/487785/38 "2009-03-01T05:48:53Z")
I can’t believe that some of you don’t understand why he wants to believe. As an atheist, I would exchange everything I’ve ever worked for in my entire life for a genuine belief in god. Who doesn’t want eternal bliss to look forward to? I’d be a lot happier if I thought I was going to see my grandpa again when this was all over. ---
**Author:** ![Lust4Life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecc23a/32.png) [@Lust4Life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lust4Life)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-things-which-make-it-hard-for-me-to-believe-in-god/487785/39 "2009-03-01T06:40:25Z")
> [@Cisco](#): > > I can’t believe that some of you don’t understand why he wants to believe. As an atheist, I would exchange everything I’ve ever worked for in my entire life for a genuine belief in god. Who doesn’t want eternal bliss to look forward to? I’d be a lot happier if I thought I was going to see my grandpa again when this was all over. With you on that one all the way mate. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-things-which-make-it-hard-for-me-to-believe-in-god/487785/40 "2009-03-01T06:51:39Z")
> [@Cisco](#): > > I can’t believe that some of you don’t understand why he wants to believe. As an atheist, I would exchange everything I’ve ever worked for in my entire life for a genuine belief in god. Who doesn’t want eternal bliss to look forward to? I’d be a lot happier if I thought I was going to see my grandpa again when this was all over. Actually Christianity promises an eternity of contemplating God’s greatness. Grandpa might very well be burning in Hell, after all. Seeing as there’s all the various sins we all accept on a daily basis of which we are unrepentant, that we’re all going to Hell generation after generation seems plausible. - Lending money - Acceptance of homosexuals - Oral sex - Anal sex - Masturbation - Contraceptives - Abortion - Swearing - Speaking the name of the Lord (God, Yawheh, Jesus, etc.) (10 commandments!) - Women ceasing being the property of her husband - Children ceasing being the property of their father (Partially in the 10 commandments) - People ceasing being the property of _anyone_ - Worshiping the cross and other idols (10 commandments!) - Working on Sunday (10 commandments!) - Etc. People can’t even follow the basic ten rules! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-things-which-make-it-hard-for-me-to-believe-in-god/487785.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-things-which-make-it-hard-for-me-to-believe-in-god/487785.md?page=3)