# 25 years ago today-- ST2: The Wrath Of Khan

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**Created:** [June 4, 2007, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-years-ago-today-st2-the-wrath-of-khan/406760 "2007-06-04T22:38:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2007, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-years-ago-today-st2-the-wrath-of-khan/406760/1 "2007-06-04T22:38:35Z")

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June 4, 1982 Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan opened.  
see the 2nd video here for the trailer

> **[25 Years Ago! Part IX! Death And Life On June 4, 1982!](http://legacy.aintitcool.com/node/32873)**
>
> Merrick here June 04, 1982. 3:45am. It was a still Summer evening not unlike a thousand evenings of my childhood. The night was humid; sweat beaded around my forehead and neck with film noir intensity. I was staying overnight with a friend...

I remember seeing it in the theatre with some friends. IIRC the theatre was far enough away that my mom went also (too far away to drop us off / drive home / come back). She REALLY didn’t like the part with the worms coming out of the ears :eek: .  
Brian

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**Author:** ![Pushkin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ee59a6/32.png) [@Pushkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pushkin)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2007, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-years-ago-today-st2-the-wrath-of-khan/406760/2 "2007-06-04T22:57:44Z")

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[QUOTE=N9IWP]  
She REALLY didn’t like the part with the worms coming out of the ears :eek: .  
Brian  
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Heh, Dad didn’t like us seeing that on TV either. Notable as yet another film that Irish television showed uncut before the BBC.

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**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2007, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-years-ago-today-st2-the-wrath-of-khan/406760/3 "2007-06-04T23:09:21Z")

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I still remember being pumped over how much better the effects looked in the TV spots. I can remember telling a friend of mine that we were finally going to see some good ship-to-ship battles, something my little crew of _Trek_ geek friends had been panting for practically since birth.

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**Author:** ![SpoilerVirgin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@SpoilerVirgin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpoilerVirgin)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2007, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-years-ago-today-st2-the-wrath-of-khan/406760/4 "2007-06-05T00:51:54Z")

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I didn’t like the part where the worms came out of the ears either. That’s why the next five times I saw the movie that month, I chose that moment to go to the restroom. 😃

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2007, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-years-ago-today-st2-the-wrath-of-khan/406760/5 "2007-06-05T00:55:38Z")

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I remember wishing “Please let it be better than the other one” (the infamous ST:TMP)

I won’t say it. Whol’ll be the first one to say it?

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2007, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-years-ago-today-st2-the-wrath-of-khan/406760/6 "2007-06-05T00:57:07Z")

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The movie holds up far better than any other of the others have or will. The themes are pretty basic (revenge, getting older, facing death) and the premise of large-scale genetic engineering is, if anything, _more_ relevant today than it was in 1982 because we have actually have some idea of how it night be accomplished.

Not only the best of the series, one of the best sci-fi movies of all time.

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**Author:** ![ASAKMOTSD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/919ad9/32.png) [@ASAKMOTSD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASAKMOTSD)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2007, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-years-ago-today-st2-the-wrath-of-khan/406760/7 "2007-06-05T01:01:37Z")

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[QUOTE=kunilou]  
I won’t say it. Whol’ll be the first one to say it?  
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You mean [this](http://khaaan.com/)? 😉

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2007, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-years-ago-today-st2-the-wrath-of-khan/406760/8 "2007-06-05T01:19:44Z")

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[QUOTE=ASAKMOTSD]  
You mean [this](http://khaaan.com/)? 😉  
[/QUOTE]

Funny, I was just thinking about that website today, without realizing that it was the 25th anniversary of the film’s release. Absolutely my favorite Trek film, and the only film that I have all the dialog memorized for. No matter how many times I see it, I still get choked up when I see Kirk turn and spot Spock’s empty chair.

Sigh, I’m _such_ a geek.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2007, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-years-ago-today-st2-the-wrath-of-khan/406760/9 "2007-06-05T01:23:36Z")

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We did a fun little thread a while back, pretending the movie was brand new.  
[Enjoy!](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=147099)

:dubious:

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**Author:** ![zamboniracer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9a140/32.png) [@zamboniracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zamboniracer)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2007, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-years-ago-today-st2-the-wrath-of-khan/406760/10 "2007-06-05T01:25:57Z")

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My college roommate Mike and I went to it opening night and I’ll never forget his comment about Kirstie Alley / Saavik, “She has great … ears.” 😃

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2007, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-years-ago-today-st2-the-wrath-of-khan/406760/11 "2007-06-05T01:44:34Z")

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[QUOTE=ASAKMOTSD]  
You mean [this](http://khaaan.com/)? 😉  
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We have a winner.

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**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2007, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-years-ago-today-st2-the-wrath-of-khan/406760/12 "2007-06-05T03:17:02Z")

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“I have been, and always shall be, your friend. Live long, and prosper.” ☹

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**Author:** ![WarmNPrickly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d78d45/32.png) [@WarmNPrickly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WarmNPrickly)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2007, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-years-ago-today-st2-the-wrath-of-khan/406760/13 "2007-06-05T03:45:39Z")

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Definitely one of the best sci-fi movies of all time.

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**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2007, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-years-ago-today-st2-the-wrath-of-khan/406760/14 "2007-06-05T03:55:35Z")

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And who’d have thought Ricardo Montalban would still have such a nice chest?

[sub]Like rich Corinthian leather.[/sub]

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2007, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-years-ago-today-st2-the-wrath-of-khan/406760/15 "2007-06-05T06:40:34Z")

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“Are you out of your Vulcan mind?”

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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2007, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-years-ago-today-st2-the-wrath-of-khan/406760/16 "2007-06-05T07:11:38Z")

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Khaaaaann!!!

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**Author:** ![thirdname](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d07c76/32.png) [@thirdname](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thirdname)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2007, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-years-ago-today-st2-the-wrath-of-khan/406760/17 "2007-06-05T07:30:19Z")

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[Khaaaaann!!!](http://www.khaaan.com/)

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**Author:** ![Pushkin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ee59a6/32.png) [@Pushkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pushkin)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2007, 7:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-years-ago-today-st2-the-wrath-of-khan/406760/18 "2007-06-05T07:55:23Z")

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What do you call the bad guy, played by Ricardo Montalban? He had a somewhat Indian name. And some other guy shouts it out during the movie.

SINBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD!

That was it wasn’t it?

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2007, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-years-ago-today-st2-the-wrath-of-khan/406760/19 "2007-06-05T12:05:42Z")

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1982 was a good summer for science fiction and fantasy movies, and Star Trek II was one of the best.  
Besides ST2 we also had:

\*\*Bladerunner

The Thing

Firefox

Poltergeist

The Atomic Cafe

Conan the Barbarian\*\*

We also had some that weren’t top tier, but interesting:

\*\*Swamp Thing

Dead Men Don’t Wear Plaid\*\*

And we had **E.T.**.

I hate ET.

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**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2007, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/25-years-ago-today-st2-the-wrath-of-khan/406760/20 "2007-06-05T12:58:18Z")

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ST2 was the only commercial VHS tape my family owned. You know, “Why own when you can rent them and who’d _ever_ want to see a movie twice?” But a cousin gave us this and I watched it at least three times a week after school. for years. I had the dialog memorized.

I remember hearing Ricardo Montalban talking about his part. He said he played the part as if Khan (sorry, I mean KHAAAAAAAN!) were the hero taking revenge on an evil _Admiral_ Kirk.

But ST2 is possibly the best of the flicks. It really seemed to intertwine some greater relevant themes with the immediate plot.

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