# 2goes2far? how about your ads? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 23, 2008, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2goes2far-how-about-your-ads/469271 "2008-10-23T23:07:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Great\_Dave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/46a35a/32.png) [@Great\_Dave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Dave)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2goes2far-how-about-your-ads/469271/21 "2008-10-27T22:07:45Z")
> [@Velma](#): > > I live in Grand Rapids and I am voting yes on prop 2. > > (And in defense of my city, GR itself leans Democrat. It’s our suburbs that contain the religious conservatives.) > > You can tell when you leave the city as the Obama signs become McCain signs. You could probably plot the city limits by the political signs. It is kind of funny. > > I don’t hold a lot of hope that prop 2 will pass, but I really, really hope it does. Grand Rapids is rapidly expanding in the health care industry and I would love it if stem cell research became part of that. Lord knows Michigan needs all the new innovation and jobs it can get. GR is fairly progressive, for west MI- Mike Sak and Robert Dean are both Dems in the State Leg from GR. But there is still quite a ways to go before it is truly progressive. ---
**Author:** ![amelioration](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e9c0ed/32.png) [@amelioration](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amelioration)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2goes2far-how-about-your-ads/469271/22 "2008-10-27T22:32:44Z")
Living in the heart of West Michigan Suburbia, the yard signs for this group are almost as commonplace as the McCain signs. I wasn’t at all surprised about it, once I figured out what the signs said. And I’ve yet to see a sign that supports the proposal at all. _sigh_ ---
**Author:** ![PhiloVance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e19adc/32.png) [@PhiloVance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhiloVance)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2goes2far-how-about-your-ads/469271/23 "2008-10-29T22:54:42Z")
Like MI has the money to spend, oh yeah. WTF good would it do if passed? Just sit there and do nothing as in other states. [http://www.genengnews.com/articles/chitem\_print.aspx?aid=2061&chid=0](http://www.genengnews.com/articles/chitem_print.aspx?aid=2061&chid=0) ---
**Author:** ![5-HT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/f19dbf/32.png) [@5-HT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5-HT)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2goes2far-how-about-your-ads/469271/24 "2008-10-29T23:01:36Z")
well, given that its an amendment, it provides people looking to do research with a guarantee that the rug won’t be pulled out from under them after they’ve already set up shop. What does Michigan’s financial situation have to do with anything? No one’s expecting a massive Stem Cell Research project to begin immediately after this passes(if it does). Are you so short sighted as to think the money will never be there? ---
**Author:** ![appleciders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@appleciders](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/appleciders)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2goes2far-how-about-your-ads/469271/25 "2008-10-29T23:08:44Z")
> [@5-HT](#): > > They started with an ad about how much the proposal would cost the taxpayers, despite the fact that the initiative does not include **any** funding. > > … > > Next they went back to the money issue, pulling out a quote from the Prop 2 spokesman in which he says the stem cell research _should_ be publicly funded. Through some sort of logical acrobatics they claim that this proves that the prop will cost the taxpayers money. > [@5-HT](#): > > What does Michigan’s financial situation have to do with anything? No one’s expecting a massive Stem Cell Research project to begin immediately after this passes(if it does). Are you so short sighted as to think the money will never be there? Actually, if done well, this could be a giant boon for the state, drawing in lots of high-tech researchers and research money. Even just your average corporate taxes could make the state a killing if it takes off. ---
**Author:** ![5-HT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/f19dbf/32.png) [@5-HT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5-HT)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2008, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2goes2far-how-about-your-ads/469271/26 "2008-10-29T23:13:27Z")
> [@appleciders](#): > > Actually, if done well, this could be a giant boon for the state, drawing in lots of high-tech researchers and research money. Even just your average corporate taxes could make the state a killing if it takes off. Well yeah, that’s the hope. I was sort of dealing with a worst case scenario and why, even then, this doesn’t cost the state money. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2goes2far-how-about-your-ads/469271.md?page=1)