# 2nd grade and 4 year olds vote Gore! **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [November 10, 2000, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2nd-grade-and-4-year-olds-vote-gore/40570 "2000-11-10T01:30:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![JustAnotherGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/278dde/32.png) [@JustAnotherGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JustAnotherGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2000, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2nd-grade-and-4-year-olds-vote-gore/40570/21 "2000-11-10T21:51:52Z")
Since this has taken a turn from the 2nd graders are smart enough to do it post, I want to repost my findings Palm Beach County had 65,062 more voters in 2000 than 1996, an increase of 16.39% One would expect the Republican and Democratic division to break somewhat consistently with the 1996 vote. However, Democrats and Libertarians increased by 18.11% or a total of 42,084 votes Republicans and Reform Party voters decreased in count by 8,248 votes or -5.01%. There may well be a voter fraud in Palm Beach County… Though not as the Democrats would like to paint it. ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2000, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2nd-grade-and-4-year-olds-vote-gore/40570/22 "2000-11-10T21:52:09Z")
Satan wrote: > [@](#): > > I went to that link, Scylla, and it seemed empty or malfunctioning or something… > > _:: fleeing ::_ I clicked on a link to an Al Gore webpage, and it took me to a Pat Buchanan webpage! \ ---
**Author:** ![beagledave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6de8d8/32.png) [@beagledave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beagledave)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2000, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2nd-grade-and-4-year-olds-vote-gore/40570/23 "2000-11-10T22:05:13Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by tracer \* > \*\*Satan wrote: > > > [@](#): > > > > I went to that link, Scylla, and it seemed empty or malfunctioning or something… > > > > _:: fleeing ::_ > > I clicked on a link to an Al Gore webpage, and it took me to a Pat Buchanan webpage! \ \*\* Well then you’re obviously too fucking dumb to use a web browser! ::::ducking…spinning…and running:::: ---
**Author:** ![hansel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6bbea6/32.png) [@hansel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hansel)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2000, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2nd-grade-and-4-year-olds-vote-gore/40570/24 "2000-11-11T01:02:31Z")
1. Doesn’t the fact that almost everyone immediately spots the problem (2nd on the card, 3rd hole to punch) indicate that _there actually is a problem with the design_? 2. If 16,000 people fucked up the first time, and 19,000 this time, it doesn’t matter how obvious it is to most people: if 4% of the electorate spoils their ballots unintentionally, _it’s a bad design_. For that matter, why was the design used again after the first time a bunch of votes were disqualified because of it? ---
**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2000, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2nd-grade-and-4-year-olds-vote-gore/40570/25 "2000-11-11T01:09:28Z")
[Moderator Hat: ON] beagledave said: > [@](#): > > Well then you’re obviously too fucking dumb to use a web browser! ::::ducking…spinning…and running:::: You can duck, spin, and run all you want, but the above is a direct insult and not allowed in Great Debates. I know it’s likely that you meant it as a joke. However, that does not excuse the use of such an insult. * * * David B, SDMB Great Debates Moderator [Moderator Hat: OFF] ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2000, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2nd-grade-and-4-year-olds-vote-gore/40570/26 "2000-11-11T01:10:27Z")
hansel: I saw on the Mcneil Leher news hour that in some counties (without the ballot problem,) up to 15% of the vote was disqualified. The problem is incompetance. ---
**Author:** ![johnson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@johnson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnson)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2000, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2nd-grade-and-4-year-olds-vote-gore/40570/27 "2000-11-11T01:30:34Z")
a big black arrow pointing to the hole to punch ought to be considered as some kind of clue that the third hole is the one for Gore, rather than just dingbat decorations on the ballot. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2nd-grade-and-4-year-olds-vote-gore/40570.md?page=1)