# 3-15 Dem Debate

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-15-dem-debate/849552>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [March 16, 2020, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-15-dem-debate/849552 "2020-03-16T00:04:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Boycott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boycott/32/6741_2.png) [@Boycott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boycott)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-15-dem-debate/849552/21 "2020-03-16T00:43:51Z")

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> [@Omar\_Little](#):
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> Bernie also claimed that after the 2008 financial TARP bailouts that Bush 2 bailed out the automotive industry !!!

That one confused me too.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-15-dem-debate/849552/22 "2020-03-16T00:44:01Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> I would be very surprised if Biden’s staff didn’t drive home with Biden to just chill and get through this. He does not need to win, he just needs to not screw it up and so far he is doing exactly that.
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> Personally I think Sanders needed to drag out Biden’s past legislative record and have him answer for it but, for whatever reason, Sanders is not going there.

Bernie has a record too.

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**Author:** ![Boycott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boycott/32/6741_2.png) [@Boycott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boycott)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-15-dem-debate/849552/23 "2020-03-16T00:46:02Z")

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Someone needs to ask Eric Holder what he makes of being thrown under the bus for not jailing anyone for the 2008 financial crisis.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-15-dem-debate/849552/24 "2020-03-16T00:47:30Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> There was an article somewhere (don’t recall where) that talked about how Sanders’ advisors are begging him to go very negative against Biden, but he’s refusing, for a very interesting reason – _he personally likes Biden_.

Bernie Sanders doesn’t have any real friends in Washington unless they’re people who idolize him and model their own campaigns after his (AOC, for instance). I never bought the punditry that he likes Biden and that he was just going to softball questions. Sanders drinks his own piss because he thinks it’s mineral water.

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**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-15-dem-debate/849552/25 "2020-03-16T00:48:09Z")

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Go to the Youtube!

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**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-15-dem-debate/849552/26 "2020-03-16T00:51:11Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> Bernie Sanders doesn’t have any real friends in Washington unless they’re people who idolize him and model their own campaigns after his (AOC, for instance). I never bought the punditry that he likes Biden and that he was just going to softball questions. Sanders drinks his own piss because he thinks it’s mineral water.

I’m skeptical that you have special insight into the mind of Sanders.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-15-dem-debate/849552/27 "2020-03-16T00:52:12Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> Just CNN here… I’m watching on [cnn.com](http://cnn.com)…

I’ve got youtube open, but it’s the Relix station with a bunch of live Phil And Friends stuff for Phil Lesh’s 80th b-day. Sorry, Joe and Bernie, they’re playing Deal right now. I’ll just read along here.

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**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-15-dem-debate/849552/28 "2020-03-16T00:55:10Z")

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I believe the Biden social security issue is when the Republicans led by Newt Gringich wanted to cut “entitlements” he turned around and said “ok, you want to cut social security then will you support cutting the military budget”. Hence putting everything on the table.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-15-dem-debate/849552/29 "2020-03-16T00:57:21Z")

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Ratings for this are going to be …? I mean I’m a junkie and I turned in late.

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**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-15-dem-debate/849552/30 "2020-03-16T00:57:44Z")

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Bernie’s doing well. Unfortunately, this is the equivalent of scoring a few runs while trailing enormously in the bottom of the 9th. He’s going to have to hit multiple Grand Slams.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-15-dem-debate/849552/31 "2020-03-16T00:57:47Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> Bernie has a record too.

Yeah. Honestly that should be the fundamental base from which the debate stems. Both men have a very long legislative history. It is all well and fine to say you (general “you”) want to do X and Y but I think seeing what a person has done is more telling than what they say. Actions speak louder than words and all that.

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**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-15-dem-debate/849552/32 "2020-03-16T00:59:53Z")

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Biden’s listing here on their agreements is effective.

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**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-15-dem-debate/849552/33 "2020-03-16T01:00:10Z")

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If Tom Steyer drops $10 to Bernie’s campaign does that make him a shill?

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**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-15-dem-debate/849552/34 "2020-03-16T01:01:21Z")

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Bernie’s right. If you want a guy that has always supported 2020 mainstream Dem positions, with the sole exception of the gun issue, he is your guy. Biden is a Johnny come lately.

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**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-15-dem-debate/849552/35 "2020-03-16T01:06:11Z")

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Joe not showing any sign of dementia. Both doing very well although I think Bernie winning on points. The most entertaining and intellectual of all of them so far to this political junkie.

They should have more one on ones instead of twenty person debates. This is good stuff.

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**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-15-dem-debate/849552/36 "2020-03-16T01:07:29Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> I’ve got youtube open, but it’s the Relix station with a bunch of live Phil And Friends stuff for Phil Lesh’s 80th b-day. Sorry, Joe and Bernie, they’re playing Deal right now. I’ll just read along here.

[https://www.cnn.com](https://www.cnn.com)

There’s a video window on the front page CNN.

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**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-15-dem-debate/849552/37 "2020-03-16T01:08:58Z")

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Biden loves listing his answers.

“Number 1…”  
“Number 2…”  
“Number 3…”

Over and over.

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**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-15-dem-debate/849552/38 "2020-03-16T01:10:45Z")

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Biden just committed to a woman VP!

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**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-15-dem-debate/849552/39 "2020-03-16T01:11:20Z")

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Joe is telling an absolute lie. He has always affirmitavely supported the Hyde Amendment.

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**Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-15-dem-debate/849552/40 "2020-03-16T01:17:51Z")

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I will say this: I think Biden could have a Latino voter problem, and Sanders comparatively has done better with Latinos while Biden has done better with African Americans.

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