# 3-15 Dem Debate **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [March 16, 2020, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-15-dem-debate/849552 "2020-03-16T00:04:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Boycott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boycott/32/6741_2.png) [@Boycott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boycott)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-15-dem-debate/849552/41 "2020-03-16T01:22:46Z")
Lou Dobbs used to be on CNN. Not a great rebuttal there from Biden. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-15-dem-debate/849552/42 "2020-03-16T01:22:46Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > [https://www.cnn.com](https://www.cnn.com) > > There’s a video window on the front page CNN. I appreciate that, but open both of these at the same time, and judge for yourself what it sounds like. :eek: [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WKT_FTr-hs) [https://www.cnn.com/](https://www.cnn.com/) ---
**Author:** ![Boycott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boycott/32/6741_2.png) [@Boycott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boycott)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-15-dem-debate/849552/43 "2020-03-16T01:27:47Z")
Doubt many people have heard of Darfur. Other than that solid answer. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-15-dem-debate/849552/44 "2020-03-16T01:30:07Z")
Bernie’s going to just stop fracking… Does he know how many people are employed in the oil and gas industry? I mean, I’m anti-fossil fuels myself, but let’s not pretend we can just waive a magic wand. ---
**Author:** ![Boycott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boycott/32/6741_2.png) [@Boycott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boycott)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-15-dem-debate/849552/45 "2020-03-16T01:31:39Z")
Bernie stop with the cringe OTT facial expressions ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-15-dem-debate/849552/46 "2020-03-16T01:34:56Z")
See the box in the lower left corner? They made a big deal about staying six feet apart, but people are walking back and forth, patting Joe with makeup. No coronavirus fear? I guess Bernie walked off to take a sit down. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-15-dem-debate/849552/47 "2020-03-16T01:35:37Z")
These are not young men… I’m sure they need a couple of pee breaks. ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-15-dem-debate/849552/48 "2020-03-16T01:36:00Z")
> [@Boycott](#): > > Bernie stop with the cringe OTT facial expressions Trump commercial footage in the making! ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-15-dem-debate/849552/49 "2020-03-16T01:36:29Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Bernie’s going to just stop fracking… > > Does he know how many people are employed in the oil and gas industry? I mean, I’m anti-fossil fuels myself, but let’s not pretend we can just waive a magic wand. If the answer is you can never shut something down that employs people regardless of whether the industry is harmful then we’re fucked. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-15-dem-debate/849552/50 "2020-03-16T01:36:34Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Bernie’s going to just stop fracking… > > Does he know how many people are employed in the oil and gas industry? I mean, I’m anti-fossil fuels myself, but let’s not pretend we can just waive a magic wand. It’s the fundamental difference between Biden and Sanders. There’s ranting about what you’re going to get done, and there’s… you know, what you can actually get done. Biden knows the difference because he’s been in both places. First he was an idealistic senator who had big ideas – and then he was a member of an administration having to work his ass off to get what he could get in the way of compromise to accomplish what he could. Sanders has only lived on one side of that coin. ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-15-dem-debate/849552/51 "2020-03-16T01:37:22Z")
> [@UltraVires](#): > > Joe is telling an absolute lie. He has always affirmitavely supported the Hyde Amendment. It’s cute when you pretend to care about politicians lying. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-15-dem-debate/849552/52 "2020-03-16T01:42:42Z")
This whole “dictatorships can’t ever do anything good” from Biden is absurd. Bernie is right about this. ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-15-dem-debate/849552/53 "2020-03-16T01:42:52Z")
Biden should have nailed that statement “Jack the Ripper made progress in lowering prostitution in 19th century England.” ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-15-dem-debate/849552/54 "2020-03-16T01:43:00Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > If the answer is you can never shut something down that employs people regardless of whether the industry is harmful then we’re fucked. We live in a democracy. When you say you’re going to throw tens of thousands of people out of work on your first day of office, people tend not to vote for that guy. You can’t save the environment if you can’t get elected in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![Boycott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boycott/32/6741_2.png) [@Boycott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boycott)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-15-dem-debate/849552/55 "2020-03-16T01:45:40Z")
If Bernie was quick on his feet he could have ended this China discussion by pointing out a Republican (Nixon) went to China and a Democrat (Carter) invited them to America. Our support of China has been bipartisan for decades. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-15-dem-debate/849552/56 "2020-03-16T01:50:26Z")
By my count, Joe Biden has led with “look” all but 4 times that he began speaking. About half of the time he leads with “look; here’s the thing”. ---
**Author:** ![Boycott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boycott/32/6741_2.png) [@Boycott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boycott)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-15-dem-debate/849552/57 "2020-03-16T01:52:42Z")
Numbers don’t lie. The turn-out argument has flipped on its head. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-15-dem-debate/849552/58 "2020-03-16T01:53:15Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > It’s the fundamental difference between Biden and Sanders. There’s ranting about what you’re going to get done, and there’s… you know, what you can actually get done. > > Biden knows the difference because he’s been in both places. First he was an idealistic senator who had big ideas – and then he was a member of an administration having to work his ass off to get what he could get in the way of compromise to accomplish what he could. > > Sanders has only lived on one side of that coin. They’ve both been in politics for 30 years or more. [Biden’s legislative record is disastrous.](https://harpers.org/archive/2019/03/joe-biden-record/) He keeps touting his liberal chops but, in practice, Biden has been much closer to conservatives in character than a liberal. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-15-dem-debate/849552/59 "2020-03-16T01:53:31Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > By my count, Joe Biden has led with “look” all but 4 times that he began speaking. About half of the time he leads with “look; here’s the thing”. Time to mix it up. “So, here’s the thing…” ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-15-dem-debate/849552/60 "2020-03-16T01:53:33Z")
These guys are taking more piss breaks than my grandmother used to. Biden definitely held serve. No sign of mental decline. I do admire Bernie for his adherence to his beliefs, but he had his last chance and it’s over. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-15-dem-debate/849552.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-15-dem-debate/849552.md?page=4)