Hindus don’t need me to tell them about their religion.
I didn’t say there wasn’t a monkey festival. What I said was that there’s a huge difference between saying Hindus have a celebration called the monkey festival and Hindus worship the monkey god.
Christians celebrate Christmas as a religious holiday and they have saints as religious icons. Santa Claus is a major icon of Christmas and is also known as Saint Nicholas. These are all facts - but you’d be wrong if you mixed them all together and claimed Christians worship a magic elf who lives at the North Pole.
My goodness. are you really saying they dont worship the monkey god? why call it a monkey god then?
christians dont say the saints are god much less ol st nick.
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Hindus do not worship the Monkey God. Some followers of Chinese folk religion and related traditions worship the Monkey God. Most Chinese people regard him as a fictional folk hero like Bre’er Rabbit, who happens to have a holiday. This has been explained to you.
ahh ok I see now, it’s the reference to the hindus that is hitting a nerve. No prob, I can use the chinese all the same, my point is thatpeople worship a monkey god, if I am wrong about the hindus I humbly apologize, I will have to see from one of their purported 330 millions gods which one to use for illustration purposes next time.
But I think I am right with the report because i ctually watched it.. and further invetigation hopefully proves my point: http://hinduism.about.com/od/lordhanuman/a/hanuman.htm Hanuman, the mighty ape that aided Lord Rama in his expedition against evil forces, is one of the most popular idols in the Hindu pantheon. Believed to be an avatar of Lord Shiva, Hanuman is worshiped
I assume that means the monkey god hanuman is worshiped? maybe I’m wrong. The story of the birth of Hanuman goes thus: Vrihaspati had an attendant called Punjikasthala, who was cursed to assume the form of a female monkey — a curse that could only be nullified if she would give birth to an incarnation of Lord Shiva.
a cursed female monkey given birth to an incarnation of lord shiva?
*In Hinduism… we do not worship elephants… but monkeys… yes! *
You’re obviously not well informed about Hinduism. It appears everything you know on the subject comes from a National Geographic show you once watched. I’d recommend you stop relying on TV for your education.
I’m not really sure what sort of point you’re trying to make here, but what I was trying to explain is that there’s no ‘gotcha!’ in pointing out that the Trinity doctrine is not completely amenable to logic - everybody already knows that - it sets out to be something that defies logic.
no. I provided some links also with quotes.. maybe you can provide a link saying that they don’t worship the monkey god, or is that information only with you at home? vyVY
Okay, how about this. If you won’t stop talking about your beliefs about Hinduism because they’re ill-informed, how about you stop talking about them because they’re off topic? This is supposed to be a thread about Christianity not Hinduism.
The Holy Spirit is sort of like the presence of God but in a depersonalized way. There are accounts of people talking to God the Father or Jesus but people don’t hold conversations with the Holy Spirit. It’s what people are talking about when they say “I walk with God” or “God gave me the strength to get through this” or “God is everywhere”.
This is very close to what I would have answered except that there are times/people where the Holy Spirit spparently comes across as a real theophanic divine presence. Mostly He acts to encourage the seeking of a closer relationship with God, behavior considered righteous/moral/ethical by the denominational group, and the providing of strength and comfort in times of emotional stress.
I’d like to add to this discussion generally that any meaningful discussion about God, theology, etc., needs to take an empirical basis. I cannot (nor, I believe can anyone else) ‘prove’ God’s omnibenevolence or eternal nature to anyone else. These are abstractions posited by believers of a philosophical bent, and as subject to scoffing and refutation as allegations of the motivation of Democrats or transgendered people. I can constructively speak of what God appears to be, both from my own and others’ experience, and from Scripture taken as a source of evidence about what those in past times understood their experiences to imply. (By which I mean, we cannot debate constructively the premise, “God nourishes people spiritually in Communion,” but I can speak of my experience. No one should expect others to take Scripture as, well, ‘Gospel truth’ (snerk), but saying what Paul believed himself to be led to write is a different matter.
Ironically, the sincerity of people’s belief is one of the things that keeps me from having religious faith. I agree that there are people who have complete faith and certainty in their religion. But here’s the kicker - these people believe in different religions.
If only one religion inspired this kind of devotion, I’d accept that as evidence that that religion had a connection to some kind of truth. But the fact that I see people believing in different religions tells me that the strength of the belief is independent of the subject of the belief.
I cant imagine one of the three distinct, individual, no beginning nor ending persons not chatting to the others.. the father and son talk but the holy spirit keeps his mouth shut?.. his hearing works I hope
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