# 3-year-old girl with scars asked to leave KFC because she was scaring the customers **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [June 16, 2014, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-year-old-girl-with-scars-asked-to-leave-kfc-because-she-was-scaring-the-customers/690863 "2014-06-16T00:12:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Mr.Nylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@Mr.Nylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Nylock)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2014, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-year-old-girl-with-scars-asked-to-leave-kfc-because-she-was-scaring-the-customers/690863/81 "2014-06-18T20:29:42Z")
> [@handsomeharry](#): > > I’m saying that it \*doesn’t \*count even as being ‘more supportive’. > > You already morphed the ‘somewhat supportive’ into ‘more likely’. There’s no reason for this escalation, and, the lack of video means absolutely nothing, which is much less than ‘somewhat supportive’ and ‘more likely’ in any scenario in which there are no facts. > > It may mean that they hadn’t even watched it, or that they didn’t have a camera on the family. When I worked fast foods, there were no cameras on anywhere except where cash registers were. > There could be 10,000 good reasons for not firing a video all over Youtube that KFC chose to not release a video. > > I read this morning that KFC paid out 30K to the family. Pretty awesome. My thought is that if the video corroborated the incident KFC might have taken a different approach; basically just fire the employee and maybe a manager involved and probably they still would have given some money to the girl. If it is inconclusive, that would be very counterproductive for KFC. I think they are trying to put the incident and blame for the incident behind and redirect the focus to helping the girl and their part in being generous and charitable. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2014, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-year-old-girl-with-scars-asked-to-leave-kfc-because-she-was-scaring-the-customers/690863/82 "2014-06-19T22:54:37Z")
You don’t fire an employee because a customer is having a meltdown. You also don’t pay out to obvious scams like the finger scam. Both of those things are an invitation for customers to behave badly. You might think that paying for the injured girl’s hospital bill is similar, but it’s mostly a chance to piggyback a bad story, that’s proven to be circulating well, with a positive message about KFC. It’s adding a positive to a negative. Internally, they may have addressed what they might do if a similar incident happens in the future. Since they’ve already paid off once, they may be able to successfully accuse any copycats of trying to scam them. ---
**Author:** ![Rhiannon8404](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rhiannon8404/32/17929_2.png) [@Rhiannon8404](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhiannon8404)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2014, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-year-old-girl-with-scars-asked-to-leave-kfc-because-she-was-scaring-the-customers/690863/83 "2014-06-19T23:19:29Z")
> [@picunurse](#): > > There may be isolated cases, but for the most part, servere dog bites don’t get stitched right away. They are allowed to heal and drain and prove the’re no infection. Then plastic surgery comes along and does their magic. > Having been an ER nurse for at least a quarter of my forty year career, I saw lots of bites, very few stitches, especially with small children. Interesting. Thanks for making the distinction about “severe” bites. I volunteer at my local animal shelter have have been witness to several dog bites and have been bit myself. All were stitched. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2014, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-year-old-girl-with-scars-asked-to-leave-kfc-because-she-was-scaring-the-customers/690863/84 "2014-06-20T04:28:50Z")
That $30K won’t make a drop in the bucket regarding her bills. She had been in the hospital since the attack occurred in April. ---
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2014, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-year-old-girl-with-scars-asked-to-leave-kfc-because-she-was-scaring-the-customers/690863/85 "2014-06-20T11:49:19Z")
Perhaps $30k is the family’s portion of the medical bills (e.g. their copay). ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2014, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-year-old-girl-with-scars-asked-to-leave-kfc-because-she-was-scaring-the-customers/690863/86 "2014-06-20T14:57:38Z")
> [@picunurse](#): > > We all want to think we live in a civilized society. We don’t. Three day old wounds are not scars, they are wounds, with blood and other fluids that soak through bandages. The attack occurred in April, the supposed KFC incident happened in June. What “three day old wounds” are you talking about? ---
**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2014, 9:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-year-old-girl-with-scars-asked-to-leave-kfc-because-she-was-scaring-the-customers/690863/87 "2014-06-22T09:14:21Z")
Why is the percentage of the medical bills in re the 30K being discussed in this thread? Did KFC promise to pay all of her bills, or something? ---
**Author:** ![Inna\_Minnit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Inna\_Minnit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inna_Minnit)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2014, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-year-old-girl-with-scars-asked-to-leave-kfc-because-she-was-scaring-the-customers/690863/88 "2014-06-22T12:21:35Z")
> [@PunditLisa](#): > > Perhaps $30k is the family’s portion of the medical bills (e.g. their copay). I was wondering where the number came from. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2014, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-year-old-girl-with-scars-asked-to-leave-kfc-because-she-was-scaring-the-customers/690863/89 "2014-06-22T15:13:07Z")
This is very encouraging news. Dr Stile has already flown to see the little girl and found a prosthesis business to donate an eye. I guess surgery will happen later this year? It should make starting school much easier for the girl. Hopefully much of the obvious scarring can be eliminated and she can have a normal childhood and life. I’m impressed that the doctor acted so quickly. Even flying across country for a house call. > **[Las Vegas surgeon offers to help 3-year-old dog attack survivor allegedly...](https://www.nydailynews.com/2014/06/21/las-vegas-surgeon-offers-to-help-3-year-old-dog-attack-survivor-allegedly-asked-to-leave-mississippi-kfc/)** > > A Las Vegas plastic surgeon has volunteered to help the little girl whose grandma says she was kicked out of a Mississippi KFC after being told her scars from a pit bull attack were “disrupti… > [@](#): > > A Las Vegas plastic surgeon has volunteered to help the little girl whose grandma says she was kicked out of a Mississippi KFC after being told her scars from a pit bull attack were “disrupting” other customers. > > Dr. Frank Stile flew out to Jackson to meet with 3-year-old Victoria Wilcher for the first time on Saturday, according his Facebook page. > [@](#): > > Stile said in a Facebook post that Raymond E. Peters, the owner of the Florida-based Center for Custom Prosthetics, has agreed to donate a prosthetic eye and help out with Victoria’s surgeries. ---
**Author:** ![Pai325](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Pai325](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pai325)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2014, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-year-old-girl-with-scars-asked-to-leave-kfc-because-she-was-scaring-the-customers/690863/90 "2014-06-24T01:42:42Z")
[http://http://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/2014/06/23/girl-tossed-from-kfc-hoax/11284405/](http://http://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/2014/06/23/girl-tossed-from-kfc-hoax/11284405/) Looks like it was a hoax. ---
**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2014, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-year-old-girl-with-scars-asked-to-leave-kfc-because-she-was-scaring-the-customers/690863/91 "2014-06-24T02:18:44Z")
The link isn’t working. ---
**Author:** ![Accidental\_Martyr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ce7236/32.png) [@Accidental\_Martyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Accidental_Martyr)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2014, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-year-old-girl-with-scars-asked-to-leave-kfc-because-she-was-scaring-the-customers/690863/92 "2014-06-24T02:22:02Z")
> **[Report: Story of girl getting tossed from KFC hoax](https://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/2014/06/23/girl-tossed-from-kfc-hoax/11284405/)** > > Report: Story of girl getting tossed from KFC hoax ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2014, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-year-old-girl-with-scars-asked-to-leave-kfc-because-she-was-scaring-the-customers/690863/93 "2014-06-24T02:23:56Z")
Try this one: [http://m.nydailynews.com/news/national/woman-claim-kfc-kicked-3-year-old-disfigured-granddaughter-hoax-report-article-1.1841151](http://m.nydailynews.com/news/national/woman-claim-kfc-kicked-3-year-old-disfigured-granddaughter-hoax-report-article-1.1841151) ---
**Author:** ![Pai325](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Pai325](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pai325)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2014, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-year-old-girl-with-scars-asked-to-leave-kfc-because-she-was-scaring-the-customers/690863/94 "2014-06-24T03:03:30Z")
> [@Accidental\_Martyr](#): > > [Report: Story of girl getting tossed from KFC hoax](http://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/2014/06/23/girl-tossed-from-kfc-hoax/11284405/) Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2014, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-year-old-girl-with-scars-asked-to-leave-kfc-because-she-was-scaring-the-customers/690863/95 "2014-06-24T03:17:33Z")
Well, there it is then. I mentioned earlier that if the story was true, it’s despicable. That it’s a hoax and the family is using the little girl this way is despicable. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2014, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-year-old-girl-with-scars-asked-to-leave-kfc-because-she-was-scaring-the-customers/690863/96 "2014-06-24T03:33:51Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Well, there it is then. > > I mentioned earlier that if the story was true, it’s despicable. That it’s a hoax and the family is using the little girl this way is despicable. And KFC handled it just about perfectly. They come out looking supportive and kind. If they had a damn brain in their collective corporate skull they’d say it was an unfortunate incident but they’re happy to help the girl and they just want to drop the whole thing. Stop while you’re ahead KFC. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2014, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-year-old-girl-with-scars-asked-to-leave-kfc-because-she-was-scaring-the-customers/690863/97 "2014-06-24T03:41:56Z")
I agree. Don’t punish a 3 year old kid. I hope the charitable plastic surgeon will still do the right thing and fix her scars. She still needs the glass eye from that other generous donor. Withdrawing help now just harms the kid. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2014, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-year-old-girl-with-scars-asked-to-leave-kfc-because-she-was-scaring-the-customers/690863/98 "2014-06-24T05:31:04Z")
> [@lagrippe](#): > > If anyone was wondering, apparently this isn’t the real story of what happened. According to people in the town, Kelly (the grandmother) had approached the store manager to ask that they throw several children out because they were staring at Victoria. Not making fun of her or bullying her, just staring. The manager had no reason to throw them out because they weren’t being openly rude or nasty to the point of unreasonableness, so she refused. Then the grandmother started getting angry because the manager wouldn’t do what she said and became so disruptive that she was the one asked to leave. At no point did anyone say that they were being thrown out of the store because of the injuries to Victoria’s face. Here’s another scenario, where grandma doesn’t even need to be acting jerkish: People see grandma with badly-injured child. Someone engages her in conversation, but the tone pisses off grandma because the person seems to be implying negligence or even abuse on her part. It all kicks off, and grandma is asked to leave, but not the other party. She’s fuming (perhaps legitimately) but knows this version of events won’t interest anyone, so makes the situation a little more black-and-white in her write up. Not to claim that this is what happened of course. And maybe KFC will admit that the story is true, or other people will come forward to support that version of events. In the meantime I can’t get pissed about it while it seems so implausible compared to other ways this could have played out. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2014, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-year-old-girl-with-scars-asked-to-leave-kfc-because-she-was-scaring-the-customers/690863/99 "2014-06-24T05:50:48Z")
> [@Mijin](#): > > Here’s another scenario, where grandma doesn’t even need to be acting jerkish: > > People see grandma with badly-injured child. > Someone engages her in conversation, but the tone pisses off grandma because the person seems to be implying negligence or even abuse on her part. > It all kicks off, and grandma is asked to leave, but not the other party. She’s fuming (perhaps legitimately) but knows this version of events won’t interest anyone, so makes the situation a little more black-and-white in her write up. > > Not to claim that this is what happened of course. And maybe KFC will admit that the story is true, or other people will come forward to support that version of events. In the meantime I can’t get pissed about it while it seems so implausible compared to other ways this could have played out. Or they were never there in the first place. According to the source, which spoke on condition of anonymity: > [@](#): > > The source said surveillance videos show that at no time on the 15th were any people children in the store who match the description of Victoria Wilcher or Mullins. The tapes were viewed in both the Meadowbrook and Woodrow Wilson KFC locations in Jackson, the source said. In hours of tape, the source said one small boy with his parents is seen, but they order food and leave the store. > > The source said no orders were recorded to include mashed potatoes and sweet tea on the same transaction, or even the two items as part of a larger order on May 15. And the owner of the two KFC franchises in Jackson posted on Facebook: > [@](#): > > At this point their story is full of holes. Any thinking person who follows their timeline can see it. The event at KFC never happened.” ---
**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2014, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-year-old-girl-with-scars-asked-to-leave-kfc-because-she-was-scaring-the-customers/690863/100 "2014-06-24T12:01:50Z")
> [@Accidental\_Martyr](#): > > [Report: Story of girl getting tossed from KFC hoax](http://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/2014/06/23/girl-tossed-from-kfc-hoax/11284405/) Well isn’t this nice: > [@Clarion Ledger](#): > > After it went viral, employees and managers at both Jackson locations have faced death threats, have had drinks thrown at them through the drive-thru window and have faced constant verbal harassment, the source confirmed. I suppose we shouldn’t all hold our breath waiting for these assholes to come back and apologize for their assaults and rudeness. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-year-old-girl-with-scars-asked-to-leave-kfc-because-she-was-scaring-the-customers/690863.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3-year-old-girl-with-scars-asked-to-leave-kfc-because-she-was-scaring-the-customers/690863.md?page=6)