# 30 Nation Coalition for War

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-nation-coalition-for-war/162526>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [March 19, 2003, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-nation-coalition-for-war/162526 "2003-03-19T13:29:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2003, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-nation-coalition-for-war/162526/101 "2003-03-22T23:45:55Z")

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—The current standard seems to be to include on the list every country that has spoken favourably of the war as ‘part of the coalition’.—

Which is just how shallow it all is. We didn’t need huge bribes and threats to get the world on our side in 1991. We didn’t scramble around counting “sigh, okay, we can’t really do anything about it anyway, and you’re threatening to spurn us if you don’t” as broad support.

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**Author:** ![Estilicon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/848f3c/32.png) [@Estilicon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Estilicon)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2003, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-nation-coalition-for-war/162526/102 "2003-03-23T00:21:50Z")

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Well elucidator you are very very wrong. You could have bought Uruguay with a couple of nickles. The president of that country is more than pathetic.

Some months ago in the height of Argentina’s crisis things in Uruguay were kind of shaky, after all we are their major traiding partner so when we have a problem… well so do they. Anyway Uruguay’s president granted an interview to a foreign news network (Bloomberg) that network had the audacity to leave the camera on after the interview had concluded. At that moment the president lost it and started to insult Argentina’s president.

Next morning he was in Buenos Aires (Argentina’s capital) giving a blowjob to our president. The moral of the story? that a guy that needs to apologize to the less powerfull man in the world (our president) is just pathetic (as I have already mentioned).

Demand a refund.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2003, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-nation-coalition-for-war/162526/103 "2003-03-23T00:30:38Z")

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Well, if its that way, I’ve never had a hummer from an actual head of state before…

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**Author:** ![Estilicon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/848f3c/32.png) [@Estilicon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Estilicon)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2003, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-nation-coalition-for-war/162526/104 "2003-03-23T00:48:30Z")

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Elucidator you don’t know what you are missing, yes I know what are you thinking but know, neither did I. How do I know then?

The key my friend is \*\* Head \*\* of state 🙂

Could someone please remind me If people are banned because of making very bad jokes. If that is the case goodbye everyone

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2003, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-nation-coalition-for-war/162526/105 "2003-03-23T00:50:07Z")

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For a _very_ bad joke, banning is considered the appropriate response. In this instance, dragged out and shot is most likely.

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**Author:** ![Estilicon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/848f3c/32.png) [@Estilicon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Estilicon)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2003, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-nation-coalition-for-war/162526/106 "2003-03-23T00:51:11Z")

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I seem to be having a problem with three words: Know, now and no. I now they have different meanings but my latin intelect seems to think that they are interchangeable. I promise from know on I will be more carefull. 🙂

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2003, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-nation-coalition-for-war/162526/107 "2003-03-23T02:17:47Z")

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Ah, yes, Estilicon, but was the President of Argentina the same guy the day of the interview as the day of the blowjob…?  
Sorry, couldn’t resist 😉

Of course, it could be that y’all are a little sore that Uruguay gets two billion worth of loans secured while George won’t even pick up the phone if it’s Buenos Aires calling?

Okay, I’ll stop now and go be cruel to France, like all good Americans…

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**Author:** ![ChaosGod](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ac91a4/32.png) [@ChaosGod](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChaosGod)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2003, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-nation-coalition-for-war/162526/108 "2003-03-24T16:49:27Z")

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\<off topic\>

> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Estilicon \*  
> \*\*a foreign news network (Bloomberg) that network had the audacity to leave the camera on after the interview had concluded. At that moment the president lost it and started to insult Argentina’s president.  
> \*\*

He said all Argentinian politicians were thieves.  
Interesting to note that his campaign slogan was “He tells it like it is”. (“Le canta la Justa”)

But anyway, I believe that the Argentinian and Uruguayan people are brothers. Our only problem is that we are continually being screwed by crooked governments.  
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**Author:** ![regnad\_kcin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@regnad\_kcin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/regnad_kcin)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2003, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-nation-coalition-for-war/162526/109 "2003-03-24T18:10:55Z")

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“But how to explain that the vast majority of the world, with little to gain from it, is in the Franco-Russian camp? The administration claims that many countries support the United States but do so quietly. That signals an even deeper problem. Countries are furtive in their support for the administration not because they fear Saddam Hussein but because they fear their own people. To support America today in much of the world is politically dangerous. Over the past year the United States became a campaign issue in elections in Germany, South Korea and Pakistan. Being anti-American was a vote-getter in all three places.”

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**Author:** ![Estilicon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/848f3c/32.png) [@Estilicon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Estilicon)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2003, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-nation-coalition-for-war/162526/110 "2003-03-24T20:41:45Z")

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Chaos God, I hope you are not offended by my comments about your president. I hate your president but I don’t hate uruguayans in the same way that I hate Bush but I don’t hate americans (well except from Rumsfeld, Cheyney, Fleischer an Barney the Dinosaur).

regnad kcin you have my same problem. I can’t believe the stupidity of the american administration to claim that they have lots of silent partners. I wouldn’t even mention it because that is such bad publicity.

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**Author:** ![regnad\_kcin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@regnad\_kcin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/regnad_kcin)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2003, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-nation-coalition-for-war/162526/111 "2003-03-25T12:58:31Z")

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Today’s quote, as the military juggernaut Palau adds its name to the coalition list, bringing the total to fifteen closeted members and now thirty-ONE outed:

“Palau gamely offered its harbors and airports to the effort, but the offer was graciously declined, as Palau is nowhere near Iraq.”

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“Palau is one of six unarmed nations in the coalition, along with Costa Rica, Iceland, the Marshall Islands, Micronesia and the Solomon Islands. Then there’s Afghanistan.”

[http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A21268-2003Mar24.html](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A21268-2003Mar24.html)

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**Author:** ![regnad\_kcin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@regnad\_kcin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/regnad_kcin)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2003, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-nation-coalition-for-war/162526/112 "2003-03-25T13:01:15Z")

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I just cant resist posting this quote from the above article:

“According to the wire service, Morocco’s weekly al Usbu’ al-Siyassi claimed that Morocco has offered 2,000 monkeys to help detonate land mines.”

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2003, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-nation-coalition-for-war/162526/113 "2003-03-25T13:15:22Z")

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Uh-oh. I hope this doesn’t signify a move to gorrilla warfare.

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**Author:** ![regnad\_kcin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@regnad\_kcin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/regnad_kcin)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2003, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-nation-coalition-for-war/162526/114 "2003-03-25T13:26:57Z")

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Holy crap!!!

Funniest joke of the day and its only 8:30!!

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**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2003, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-nation-coalition-for-war/162526/115 "2003-03-25T13:27:47Z")

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As near as I can tell, most countries simply have absolutely no interest in the war, and neither do their citizenry. Why should Loasians care about it? It has nothing to do with them. Pretty much every South American and African country falls into this case, as well as many Asian ones.

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**Author:** ![Soup\_du\_jour](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@Soup\_du\_jour](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soup_du_jour)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2003, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-nation-coalition-for-war/162526/116 "2003-03-25T13:44:58Z")

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The “coalition of the unwilling” list has **Israel** on it???

Sounds like a pretty sketchy list.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2003, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-nation-coalition-for-war/162526/117 "2003-03-26T13:52:37Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by regnad kcin \*  
> \*\*Today’s quote, as the military juggernaut Palau adds its name to the coalition list, bringing the total to fifteen closeted members and now thirty-ONE outed:
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> “Palau gamely offered its harbors and airports to the effort, but the offer was graciously declined, as Palau is nowhere near Iraq.”
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😃 😛 Oy, veh… apart from the small detail that under Treaty, Palau, the Marshalls and Micronesia **have** to give use of their harbors and airports to the US, it is indeed mightily gallant 😉

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**Author:** ![Estilicon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/848f3c/32.png) [@Estilicon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Estilicon)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2003, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-nation-coalition-for-war/162526/118 "2003-03-26T16:51:27Z")

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> “Palau gamely offered its harbors and airports to the effort, but the offer was graciously declined, as Palau is nowhere near Iraq.”

Oh the momories, during GW1 I was 10 years old but I still remember a really excited argentinian congressman saying that we should send an aircraft carrier or two to the persian gulf in order to hel the U.N. The joke is that we didn’t have even one 🙂

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