# 30 Rock 10/14: The LIVE show

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-10-14-the-live-show/557184>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 14, 2010, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-10-14-the-live-show/557184 "2010-10-14T21:59:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Pliny\_the\_younger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/aca169/32.png) [@Pliny\_the\_younger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pliny_the_younger)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-10-14-the-live-show/557184/21 "2010-10-15T14:12:35Z")

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I laughed my head off at Jon Hamm - that cracked my shit up. The rest of it was okay - it was a fun experiment. They can go back to regular film now. 🙂

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**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-10-14-the-live-show/557184/22 "2010-10-15T15:04:23Z")

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> [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](#):
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> Aaand I just watched the East Coast version. The timing was a lot tighter for everyone, I thought, and Jane Krakowski in particular was better.

She was probably sober for the East Coast version. I’m a little disappointed they didn’t do the nip slip, maybe with an actual blue cardboard dot taped to her nipple.

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**Author:** ![lindsaybluth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/90db22/32.png) [@lindsaybluth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lindsaybluth)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-10-14-the-live-show/557184/23 "2010-10-15T15:19:20Z")

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Jon Hamm and Matt Damon’s “haha, I was in on the surprise the whole time!” were the only bright spots.

The Fox News joke, “Hi, I’m blonde” was the lowest I’ve ever seen in recent memory. I was disgusted with how they went for the easiest joke known to man.

The timing was off for everything; people seemed uncomfortable in the space, Alec Baldwin seemed to be grandstanding throughout. His performance made me think of all of his bizarre antics in the news, whereas Jack Donaghy bears little resemblance to the real Alec Baldwin.

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**Author:** ![corkboard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@corkboard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/corkboard)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-10-14-the-live-show/557184/24 "2010-10-15T15:37:49Z")

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> [@lindsaybluth](#):
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> The Fox News joke, “Hi, I’m blonde” was the lowest I’ve ever seen in recent memory. I was disgusted with how they went for the easiest joke known to man.

I thought the reason for that was it was Jenna playing a character on the sub-SNL quality _TGS_, where the writing is weak and they go for the low-hanging fruit, rather than Jane playing a well-written character on _30 Rock_.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-10-14-the-live-show/557184/25 "2010-10-15T15:46:53Z")

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Correct. It was a satire of TV satire, not of Fox News.

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-10-14-the-live-show/557184/26 "2010-10-15T16:10:35Z")

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Ienjoyed it. As a one-time thing I thought it was pretty cool.

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**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-10-14-the-live-show/557184/27 "2010-10-15T16:54:46Z")

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> [@Quimby](#):
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> I thought it was a fun experiment and I love their solution to how to to do a flashback cutaway. JLD was a fun surprise especially for NBC which has literally ruined many an episode of various shows by revealing everything in the ads.
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> I also, for some reason, really liked the transition back to film at the end.
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> To the person who asked, that wasn’t a laugh track, they filmed this in the SNL studio. She thanked their staff at the end.
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> I am curious how different the west coast feed was. I am sure both will be on the DVD.

HULU has both versions up now.

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**Author:** ![UTejas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UTejas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UTejas)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-10-14-the-live-show/557184/28 "2010-10-15T17:40:52Z")

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[17 Differences between the East and West Coast versions](http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2010/10/the_17_differences_between_30.html)

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**Author:** ![lindsaybluth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/90db22/32.png) [@lindsaybluth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lindsaybluth)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-10-14-the-live-show/557184/29 "2010-10-15T17:44:11Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> Correct. It was a satire of TV satire, not of Fox News.

Meh. I thought of that, but frankly the real SNL does garbage like that, so I didn’t buy it. The audience loved it.

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**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-10-14-the-live-show/557184/30 "2010-10-15T18:56:37Z")

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I liked it well enough. Alec Baldwin seemed to be channeling the ghosts of bad SNL hosts past. Definitely performing to the camera. Wonder if that was deliberate in homage to his many SNL appearances.

It dawned on me late in the show that they _have_ to do JLD as Sarah Palin. It would have been a great bit. Too bad they didn’t try that.

Spaceman can sing!

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-10-14-the-live-show/557184/31 "2010-10-15T19:02:50Z")

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On the West Coast version Spaceman did a very sly finger quotes when he called himself a doctor. Pretty funny and subtle.

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**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-10-14-the-live-show/557184/32 "2010-10-15T19:29:03Z")

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> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#):
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> On the West Coast version Spaceman did a very sly finger quotes when he called himself a doctor. Pretty funny and subtle.

Yeah, he did that on the East Coast version as well. I laughed.

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-10-14-the-live-show/557184/33 "2010-10-15T19:41:39Z")

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> [@UTejas](#):
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> [17 Differences between the East and West Coast versions](http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2010/10/the_17_differences_between_30.html)

Great link! Thanks.

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**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-10-14-the-live-show/557184/34 "2010-10-15T20:09:19Z")

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> [@UTejas](#):
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> [17 Differences between the East and West Coast versions](http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2010/10/the_17_differences_between_30.html)

Thanks for the link. You have to wonder if the writer understands what he is writing about when his first paragraph contains the phrase, “…subtle tweaks made between the two different versions _taped_ for the east and west coasts…”. Italics mine.

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**Author:** ![lindsaybluth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/90db22/32.png) [@lindsaybluth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lindsaybluth)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-10-14-the-live-show/557184/35 "2010-10-15T20:13:52Z")

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I’m pretty sure Dr. Spaceman had the best line of the night:

“Baby, let’s let the dog watch us. Do you think he understands the love that we have? Oops, I’m finished, call yourself a cab.”

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-10-14-the-live-show/557184/36 "2010-10-15T20:59:55Z")

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> [@randwill](#):
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> Thanks for the link. You have to wonder if the writer understands what he is writing about when his first paragraph contains the phrase, “…subtle tweaks made between the two different versions _taped_ for the east and west coasts…”. Italics mine.

Of course it was taped. You think they’re never going to show it again? True, it was taped as it was being aired, and that is a distinction for a live show, but everybody who will see the reruns, or watch Hulu to see the differences, or get the DVD, will see a taped version. It’s completely clear that the writer had to record the first broadcast to compare it to the second; he wasn’t doing that from pure memory. He wasn’t comparing as he watched either. The article is timed at 4 am.

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**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-10-14-the-live-show/557184/37 "2010-10-15T21:23:30Z")

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> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#):
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> > [@randwill](#):
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> > Thanks for the link. You have to wonder if the writer understands what he is writing about when his first paragraph contains the phrase, “…subtle tweaks made between the two different versions _taped_ for the east and west coasts…”. Italics mine.
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> Of course it was taped. You think they’re never going to show it again? True, it was taped as it was being aired, and that is a distinction for a live show, but everybody who will see the reruns, or watch Hulu to see the differences, or get the DVD, will see a taped version. It’s completely clear that the writer had to record the first broadcast to compare it to the second; he wasn’t doing that from pure memory. He wasn’t comparing as he watched either. The article is timed at 4 am.

Except that he writes that the show was “taped for the east and west coasts”, implying that it was taped for broadcast on the east and west coasts. Which it was not. It was broadcast live. That was the whole point of the exercise.

A better choice of words would have been, “performed for the east and west coasts” or “broadcast for the east and west coasts”.

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**Author:** ![kath94](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/67e7ee/32.png) [@kath94](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kath94)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2010, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-10-14-the-live-show/557184/38 "2010-10-16T02:42:53Z")

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Does anybody know who played the “flashback” Jack? You know, the one with the smaller penis? 😃

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**Post date:** [October 16, 2010, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-10-14-the-live-show/557184/39 "2010-10-16T14:54:28Z")

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I turned it off minutes after the first commercial break due to the overpowering stench of Bad SNL Sketch.

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**Author:** ![Llama\_Llogophile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@Llama\_Llogophile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Llama_Llogophile)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2010, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-10-14-the-live-show/557184/40 "2010-10-17T00:17:45Z")

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I thought it was fun, particularly Jon Hamm’s commercial.

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