# 30 Rock 10/15 "Season 4" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 16, 2009, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-10-15-season-4/514019 "2009-10-16T13:39:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Ichbin\_Dubist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/51bf81/32.png) [@Ichbin\_Dubist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ichbin_Dubist)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2009, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-10-15-season-4/514019/1 "2009-10-16T13:39:10Z")
I thought the “Welcome to Season 4” thing was pretty funny, and the callback at the end might very well be one of the snarkiest things to air on prime time ever. Otherwise, not the show at its strongest – they’re never great when they’re trying to make a political point about Jack. And the strike stuff wasn’t funny. I loved the “Off-Season Tennis” promo, though. And I would consider watching a half-hour special of Tracey Morgan wandering Rockefeller Plaza trying to act like a normal human, maybe once. ---
**Author:** ![Sigmagirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@Sigmagirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigmagirl)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2009, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-10-15-season-4/514019/2 "2009-10-16T13:58:57Z")
Yeah, the Leno thing had balls. The parts with Kenneth and Jack facing off were good; the parts with Kenneth marching around on the street were boring. Just to get Jack to write “I’m a big ol’ liar.” “Massage it, Kenneth.” ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2009, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-10-15-season-4/514019/3 "2009-10-16T15:42:45Z")
What happened at the very end? I got a phone call and missed it. ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2009, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-10-15-season-4/514019/4 "2009-10-16T15:56:08Z")
Yea, not their best episode. I’ll second **Happy L.**'s request though, I missed the last few minutes. ---
**Author:** ![Ichbin\_Dubist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/51bf81/32.png) [@Ichbin\_Dubist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ichbin_Dubist)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2009, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-10-15-season-4/514019/5 "2009-10-16T16:06:28Z")
> [@Simplicio](#): > > Yea, not their best episode. I’ll second **Happy L.**'s request though, I missed the last few minutes. Jack and Liz are watching Jenna’s weird tennis promo, and Jack comments “There’s nothing wrong with being fun and popular and just giving people what they want.” Then he looks into the camera “Ladies and gentlemen, Jay Leno.” ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2009, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-10-15-season-4/514019/6 "2009-10-16T16:09:16Z")
I wanted to see Tracy Jordan jamming on some bucket drums. It was a good start to the season and it had some funny stuff. Not the best episode, but still pretty good. “I don’t need this, I could get a job with the Air Force tomorrow.” ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2009, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-10-15-season-4/514019/7 "2009-10-16T16:17:36Z")
> [@Ichbin\_Dubist](#): > > Jack and Liz are watching Jenna’s weird tennis promo, and Jack comments “There’s nothing wrong with being fun and popular and just giving people what they want.” Then he looks into the camera “Ladies and gentlemen, Jay Leno.” Which was immediately followed by the opening of Leno – with Leno saying “Thanks, guys. It’s time to give America what it wants,” and [walking on stage right through the tennis promo.](http://www.thejaylenoshow.com/video/episodes/?vid=1167349#vid=1167349) One does not have to love Leno to appreciate the bit. ---
**Author:** ![Ichbin\_Dubist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/51bf81/32.png) [@Ichbin\_Dubist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ichbin_Dubist)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2009, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-10-15-season-4/514019/8 "2009-10-16T16:21:45Z")
> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#): > > “I don’t need this, I could get a job with the Air Force tomorrow.” It was also pretty funny that nobody on the show could remember this cast member (I can’t think of his name myself), and having them sort of skirting the absurdity that TGS has a tableful of writers and (seemingly) 3 cast members, one of whom does nothing. ---
**Author:** ![Sigmagirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@Sigmagirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigmagirl)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2009, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-10-15-season-4/514019/9 "2009-10-16T16:39:10Z")
Josh, who quit in disgust. Now they have two cast members. But they’re looking for more. Or they’re intercoursing, I can’t tell. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2009, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-10-15-season-4/514019/10 "2009-10-16T16:41:45Z")
What’s funny about Josh in last night’s show is that he was missing for most of last season, only in a handful of epsiodes. His whole “I’m right here!” bit cracked me up… As if he was there every episode last season and we’d just missed seeing him there. ---
**Author:** ![filling\_pages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b9bd4f/32.png) [@filling\_pages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filling_pages)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2009, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-10-15-season-4/514019/11 "2009-10-16T16:51:09Z")
Hey! Want to hold hands with a black millionaire? (Tracy slays me. I know he bugs a lot of folks, but his delivery never fails to hit me right in the funny bone.) ---
**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2009, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-10-15-season-4/514019/12 "2009-10-16T18:26:52Z")
> [@filling\_pages](#): > > (Tracy slays me. I know he bugs a lot of folks, but his delivery never fails to hit me right in the funny bone.) My problem is that I don’t think he’s acting. I’ve never seen anything to indicate he’s not actually that stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Fair\_Rarity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fair_rarity/32/153_2.png) [@Fair\_Rarity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fair_Rarity)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2009, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-10-15-season-4/514019/13 "2009-10-17T02:36:57Z")
I wonder if when Tracy was wandering around being “normal” if the people he approached were actors or if they were regular people. It had the feel of regular people and I kinda hope they were because I think that makes it funnier. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2009, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-10-15-season-4/514019/14 "2009-10-17T13:15:31Z")
> [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](#): > > My problem is that I don’t think he’s acting. I’ve never seen anything to indicate he’s not actually that stupid. [Here](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvwHcaIus6Y) is a link to Tracy Morgan doing standup. Warning: It’s very explicit humor about sex [NSW]. I’m only offering it up to demonstrate that he is, in fact, playing a character on the show. I’m another person who thinks he’s hilarious. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2009, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-10-15-season-4/514019/15 "2009-10-17T14:55:50Z")
> [@Ruby Sees](#): > > I wonder if when Tracy was wandering around being “normal” if the people he approached were actors or if they were regular people. It had the feel of regular people and I kinda hope they were because I think that makes it funnier. Yes, I wondered the same thing. I think at least a few might have been actual encounters they filmed from across the street in NY.