# 30 Rock 2/3/11

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-2-3-11/570154>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 4, 2011, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-2-3-11/570154 "2011-02-04T15:39:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![corkboard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@corkboard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/corkboard)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-2-3-11/570154/1 "2011-02-04T15:39:32Z")

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Tina Fey in a bra. Yummy.

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-2-3-11/570154/2 "2011-02-04T15:42:48Z")

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For someone with a diet that can only be described as legendarily poor, Liz Lemon is surprisingly flat-tummied. I want to go to there.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-2-3-11/570154/3 "2011-02-04T15:50:38Z")

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“You are… confident!”  
“You… ate a meal in front of a mirror last night.”

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-2-3-11/570154/4 "2011-02-04T15:52:30Z")

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“I need to talk to you in my office.”  
“Is it about sex? Here’s a tip: sometimes a woman likes to leave her blazer on!”

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**Author:** ![corkboard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@corkboard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/corkboard)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-2-3-11/570154/5 "2011-02-04T16:19:40Z")

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I think my new moniker will be Rufus T. Blandersnitch.

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**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-2-3-11/570154/6 "2011-02-04T16:31:52Z")

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> [@Skammer](#):
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> For someone with a diet that can only be described as legendarily poor, Liz Lemon is surprisingly flat-tummied. I want to go to there.

Agreed. I looked over at my wife during the episode last night and said, “Best. Episode. EVAR.”

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-2-3-11/570154/7 "2011-02-04T16:39:19Z")

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“A hug’s got to last at least ten seconds!”  
“You bet it does!” (explaining why his earlier hug with Jack ended “…9…10”)

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**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-2-3-11/570154/8 "2011-02-04T17:14:55Z")

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> [@corkboard](#):
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> I think my new moniker will be Rufus T. Blandersnitch.

I think it was Rufus T. Barleysheath. Unless you’re making some cool reference that I’m totally missing…

Helpfully yours,  
Fart Barfunkle

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**Author:** ![Grapefruit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/73ab20/32.png) [@Grapefruit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grapefruit)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-2-3-11/570154/9 "2011-02-04T17:55:36Z")

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This season hasn’t been quite as hilarious (to me) as previous seasons. I could barely managed to get through that contrived wedding switcharoo from a couple of weeks ago. Although… I do wish wizard cloaks were fashionable in this plane of reality!

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**Author:** ![Girl\_Next\_Door](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@Girl\_Next\_Door](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Girl_Next_Door)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-2-3-11/570154/10 "2011-02-04T18:05:13Z")

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So what exactly is the deal with Kenneth? They’ve been dropping hints over the years that he is some sort of ancient undead vampire. Anybody been catching those?

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**Author:** ![corkboard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@corkboard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/corkboard)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-2-3-11/570154/11 "2011-02-04T18:36:03Z")

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> [@hogarth](#):
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> I think it was Rufus T. Barleysheath. Unless you’re making some cool reference that I’m totally missing…
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> Helpfully yours,  
> Fart Barfunkle

No cool reference, just unreliable mind grapes.

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**Author:** ![Disheavel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e274bd/32.png) [@Disheavel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disheavel)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-2-3-11/570154/12 "2011-02-04T19:26:38Z")

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> [@Girl\_Next\_Door](#):
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> So what exactly is the deal with Kenneth? They’ve been dropping hints over the years that he is some sort of ancient undead vampire. Anybody been catching those?

No, but I’d be interested to hear what you picked up on! His characterization see-saw has been very annoying. I think he is the only character on the Thursday night line up that has not deteriorated into a dumber character to get more laughs. He often goes up in intelligence to get the laugh. But I feel that Kenneth’s up and down intelligence is really getting old and that his original role as a do-anything-to-help-TV was much better and that they should have had him switch to spewing learnings from people (presumably crazy NYers) in his neighborhood instead of the old Grandma routine.

But perhaps you are picking up on something more in the character than what I am getting.

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**Author:** ![corkboard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@corkboard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/corkboard)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-2-3-11/570154/13 "2011-02-04T20:21:45Z")

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Since season 1 there have been occasional (infrequent) references to his advanced age… one such reference was a couple seasons ago when there was talk of reforming the age requirements to be an NBC page, with a maximum age limit. Kenneth was subtly but distinctly concerned.

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**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-2-3-11/570154/14 "2011-02-04T20:23:19Z")

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There are many references to Kenneth being far older than he appears, including one earlier this season where there’s a sound only old people can hear and it drives him crazy. I think there’s at least one throwaway line per episode that hints that he’s very old and/or otherworldly. This week he refers to himself as being one of the elderly. It sort of reminds me of when we found out Ned Flanders is a senior citizen.

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**Author:** ![Fuzzy\_Dunlop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/848f3c/32.png) [@Fuzzy\_Dunlop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuzzy_Dunlop)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-2-3-11/570154/15 "2011-02-04T20:57:31Z")

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> [@pepperlandgirl](#):
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> There are many references to Kenneth being far older than he appears, including one earlier this season where there’s a sound only old people can hear and it drives him crazy. I think there’s at least one throwaway line per episode that hints that he’s very old and/or otherworldly. This week he refers to himself as being one of the elderly. It sort of reminds me of when we found out Ned Flanders is a senior citizen.

There’s a scene from years ago where Kenneth misunderstands another one of the characters and says “Who said I’ve been alive forever?” I think it was the deal breakers episode.

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-2-3-11/570154/16 "2011-02-04T21:21:17Z")

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The wizard cloak thing would’ve been funnier if Avery wasn’t the only woman wearing one. Let’s see baggy clothes that conceal every aspect of one’s body shape? Liz would love that.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2011, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-2-3-11/570154/17 "2011-02-05T02:06:21Z")

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I thought this was one of the funniest episodes ever.

“I can’t be pregnant because I’ve had my period for the last 61 days.”

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2011, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-2-3-11/570154/18 "2011-02-05T02:30:29Z")

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“Crap.”

:Keeping Up With The Kardashians comes on the TV:

Perfect.

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**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2011, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-2-3-11/570154/19 "2011-02-05T13:13:46Z")

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Did anybody notice? Det. John Munch has now appeared in a ninth television series!

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**Author:** ![Uncle\_Jocko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uncle_jocko/32/2932_2.png) [@Uncle\_Jocko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncle_Jocko)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2011, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-2-3-11/570154/20 "2011-02-05T14:37:00Z")

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> [@Krokodil](#):
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> Did anybody notice? Det. John Munch has now appeared in a ninth television series!

I couldn’t hear you, since he said the point is moot.

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