# 30 Rock (5/20)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-5-20/540215>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 21, 2010, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-5-20/540215 "2010-05-21T03:55:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2010, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-5-20/540215/21 "2010-05-21T18:08:41Z")

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> [@HelloNinja](#):
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> I would have liked those Sully jokes better if they hadn’t already been done by Jason Sudekis as a pilot on SNL’s Weekend Update.

I thought the same thing. Why is 30 Rock stealing bits from its God parent?

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2010, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-5-20/540215/22 "2010-05-21T18:59:41Z")

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> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#):
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> I thought the same thing. Why is 30 Rock stealing bits from its God parent?

Not just Sully, but last week’s “birth control where you only have one period a year” joke was done on SNL as well, though they had different names for the product.

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**Author:** ![Valerieblaise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@Valerieblaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Valerieblaise)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2010, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-5-20/540215/23 "2010-05-21T19:30:00Z")

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> [@Skammer](#):
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> Plus, they can’t have Matt Damon joining the cast, so something’s gotta be wrong with him. I wish Liz would get back with Wesley Snipes. 🙂

My friend made a similiar comment last night when we watched. I was thinking that since he’s a pilot, there’s a built-in reason for him to be away most of the time and just show up when Matt Damon is available. I didn’t think Julianne Moore’s recurring part would last as long as it did, either.

I’d also like to see what they’d do with the show since Jack, Liz, and even Jenna have all found relatively good relationships. It’d be interesting to have them paired off. The show wouldn’t have Liz’s perpetual singleness as a go-to joke anymore, but since she hasn’t had a lot of long-term relationships it seems like there would still be plenty of opportunities for the funny.

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**Author:** ![pancakes3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba9def/32.png) [@pancakes3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pancakes3)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2010, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-5-20/540215/24 "2010-05-21T20:04:56Z")

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as much as creepy loneliness is a gold mine for jokes, a relationship is 2x as much. couple that in with liz probably retaining much of her single idiosyncrasies and the funny’s are all but guarantied.

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**Author:** ![ScatteredFrog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8c91f0/32.png) [@ScatteredFrog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ScatteredFrog)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2010, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-5-20/540215/25 "2010-05-21T21:17:46Z")

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> [@Gordon\_Urquhart](#):
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> A co-worker, originally from Baltimore, pronounces her long O’s in this extraordinarily fingernails-on-chalkboard manner. I used to think it was pretentiousness; now I know it’s just her Maryland accent.
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> I’ll have to ask her to say something like “bowl of water” and see if she pronounces it “boule of wudder.”

What kills me is my wife talks that way, and she’s a native New Jerseyan – but from the NORTHERN half of the state!

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**Author:** ![ScatteredFrog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8c91f0/32.png) [@ScatteredFrog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ScatteredFrog)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2010, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-5-20/540215/26 "2010-05-21T22:12:35Z")

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> [@Cliffy](#):
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> They did the exact same bit on an episode of SNL, with Jason Sudekis IIRC playing another pilot who flew that same route and was ticked off that he wasn’t getting any credit for not hitting any brids. I don’t this is meant to lead you to think Carol isn’t the real deal.
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> –Cliffy

> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#):
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> I thought the same thing. Why is 30 Rock stealing bits from its God parent?

> [@HelloNinja](#):
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> Not just Sully, but last week’s “birth control where you only have one period a year” joke was done on SNL as well, though they had different names for the product.

Easy explanation: over the last few years, SNL has been turning out complete shit (oops, sorry about that…I shouldn’t swear…so please replace the “s” with a “W”, the “t” with a “g”, and the “h” with an “i” and you’ll have a synonym), so they probably figured few enough people bothered watching SNL so these jokes would have been new to them.

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**Author:** ![DooWahDiddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e9bcb4/32.png) [@DooWahDiddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DooWahDiddy)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2010, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-5-20/540215/27 "2010-05-22T02:21:09Z")

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> [@Cliffy](#):
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> They did the exact same bit on an episode of SNL, with Jason Sudekis IIRC playing another pilot who flew that same route and was ticked off that he wasn’t getting any credit for not hitting any brids.  
> –Cliffy

Strange, I’m a pretty faithful watcher of SNL and I don’t remember this skit (although I did see Andy Samberg play the goose who wrote a poem about all the geese lost that day, and loved it). Do you remember who the host was?

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2010, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-5-20/540215/28 "2010-05-22T02:28:21Z")

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> [@DooWahDiddy](#):
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> Strange, I’m a pretty faithful watcher of SNL and I don’t remember this skit (although I did see Andy Samberg play the goose who wrote a poem about all the geese lost that day, and loved it). Do you remember who the host was?

It was actually on one of the Weekend Update prime specials that aired last Fall. Here is[a recap of the episode](http://snltranscripts.jt.org/09/09wu3.phtml) from Thursday 10/1/2009.

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**Author:** ![Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/bc8723/32.png) [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unauthorized_Cinnamon)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2010, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-5-20/540215/29 "2010-05-22T12:55:40Z")

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I was a little sad that Carol met Nancy, and didn’t make a comment about her thick accent.

Best moment of the night was Kenneth popping up next to the limo. We laughed like idiots, then rewound and watched it again.

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**Author:** ![quixotic78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/3ab097/32.png) [@quixotic78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/quixotic78)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2010, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-5-20/540215/30 "2010-05-22T13:24:51Z")

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> [@The\_Evil\_Prince\_Zorte](#):
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> Liz asked Carol how he got through security at 30 Rock, and he said something like “If you are wearing a pilot’s uniform and look like you know where you are going, you can go just about anywhere.”
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> As for worker’s comp, his story was just about as likely as any of the lies Liz has told. Isn’t worker’s comp for injuries that prevent you from doing your job? His was a bitten middle finger.
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> He probably recognized her from Deal Breakers and threw out the TGS reference. He figures if she runs a show, she must have money and connections.

Only flaw in your (Matt Damon’s?) plan is, how did he know that Liz Lemon was going to be at Wesley Snipes’ office on a Saturday afternoon? Her being there was a complete coincidence, to get Snipes’… what did he call them? Fancy slippers?

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**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2010, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-5-20/540215/31 "2010-05-22T14:42:36Z")

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> [@HelloNinja](#):
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> Not just Sully, but last week’s “birth control where you only have one period a year” joke was done on SNL as well, though they had different names for the product.

Tina Fey was in [that skit](http://www.tressugar.com/Saturday-Night-Live-Birth-Control-Ad-1073031) (and probably wrote it, for that matter); I think she’s allowed to steal from herself.

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**Author:** ![TheTerribleTako](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ba8739/32.png) [@TheTerribleTako](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheTerribleTako)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2010, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-5-20/540215/32 "2010-05-22T18:17:37Z")

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> [@quixotic78](#):
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> Fancy slippers?

Not just fancy slippers, but fancy dress slippers my luscious plum.

My favorite moment had to be Kenneth’s drunken reverse tell-off at Grizz and Feyonce’s wedding. Something about Kenneth’s character really sold it for me. By the time he did the thumbs up, I was falling over with laughter. “I hope to see you all in heaven!”

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**Author:** ![quixotic78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/3ab097/32.png) [@quixotic78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/quixotic78)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2010, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-5-20/540215/33 "2010-05-22T21:48:23Z")

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> [@TheTerribleTako](#):
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> Grizz and Feyonce’s wedding.

Oh man, I didn’t realize that was how they were spelling that name. I thought it was just Fiancee, which was kind of lame, but Feyonce. Ha!

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**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2010, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-5-20/540215/34 "2010-05-23T14:06:29Z")

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> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#):
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> Question about tonight’s episode: In the credits an actor was listed as playing “Astronaut Mike Dexter” but I cannot remember any scene involving a character called that. 😕 Did I miss something? My DVR cut off during the end bit with Kenneth. Did Liz finally meet him or something?

He was seen in the background while Liz was shuffling through the Bible. We met him last week. No lines this week.

Loved Nancy calling Avery’s accent ridiculous. Jack having worn his sister’s hand-me-down cords with hearts for pockets explains a lot. Another vote for the looks when Kenneth handed in his gun. I’ll see you all in Heaven.

These last two episodes were the best of the season.

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**Author:** ![lindsaybluth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/90db22/32.png) [@lindsaybluth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lindsaybluth)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2010, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-5-20/540215/35 "2010-05-24T04:34:54Z")

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Is anyone else upset that Avery’s knocked up? I thought that was a REALLY cheap story line, and while I loved the rest of the episode, I really don’t like the concept of Jack Donaghy being a father and “settling down” with Avery.

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**Author:** ![ProfessorX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@ProfessorX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ProfessorX)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2010, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-5-20/540215/36 "2010-05-24T05:14:35Z")

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Sucks for Donaghy I agree. Kind of takes away arguably the best character in the show - that’s really going to change things.

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**Author:** ![TheTerribleTako](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ba8739/32.png) [@TheTerribleTako](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheTerribleTako)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2010, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-5-20/540215/37 "2010-05-24T19:41:02Z")

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> [@lindsaybluth](#):
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> Is anyone else upset that Avery’s knocked up? I thought that was a REALLY cheap story line, and while I loved the rest of the episode, I really don’t like the concept of Jack Donaghy being a father and “settling down” with Avery.

Yeah, I wasn’t a fan of it either. Especially since Elizabeth Banks had a similar storyline in Scrubs which started the downfall of Scrubs. They seemed to be making fun of Scrubs during that scene where Jack and Avery’s conversation is being drowned out by Moonvest’s music though, so maybe the writers will do something more interesting.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2010, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-5-20/540215/38 "2010-05-24T19:44:58Z")

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> [@ProfessorX](#):
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> Sucks for Donaghy I agree. Kind of takes away arguably the best character in the show - that’s really going to change things.

Jack Donaghy’s character shines when it comes to his family life. “Apollo, Apollo” focused nearly entirely on Jack’s father and Jack as a child, and it was one of the best episodes last season. This development will only enhance his character.

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**Author:** ![pancakes3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba9def/32.png) [@pancakes3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pancakes3)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2010, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-5-20/540215/39 "2010-05-24T20:34:45Z")

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banks has been preggers for so many story arcs, i get her confused with heigl who was actually in knocked up.

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**Post date:** [May 24, 2010, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-5-20/540215/40 "2010-05-24T20:52:44Z")

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Probably she will turn out not to be pregnant. I just don’t see how this can work into the story.

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