# 30 Rock Season Six tonight! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 12, 2012, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-season-six-tonight/609280 "2012-01-12T14:13:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Girl\_Next\_Door](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@Girl\_Next\_Door](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Girl_Next_Door)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-season-six-tonight/609280/21 "2012-01-13T16:31:25Z")
My favorites: PETE: “Newsflash …” KENNETH: “EVERYBODY DOWN!” and Tracey referring to celebrating Kwaanza then pausing to see if Jack’s going to challenge him on it. ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-season-six-tonight/609280/22 "2012-01-13T18:01:22Z")
By the way, someone on the AV Club pointed out that the WNBA old person dance team (Timeless Torches) is a real thing, and the people who introduced themselves in the closing bit were actual members, not actors! [http://www.wnba.com/liberty/news/Timeless\_Torches.html](http://www.wnba.com/liberty/news/Timeless_Torches.html) It was a bit uneven overall, but I thought it was the best Jenna episode in quite a while! ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-season-six-tonight/609280/23 "2012-01-13T18:20:24Z")
> [@Ellen\_Cherry](#): > > Thanks, **Skammer**! > > I just had a wacky thought. Didn’t Murphy Brown name her baby Avery? Was it a boy or a girl? Was that show on long enough ago for that Avery to be this Avery? Is it an in-joke? Avery Brown was a boy, but could definitely be an in-joke just the same. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-season-six-tonight/609280/24 "2012-01-13T18:20:37Z")
I also got into the show this fall- I read Tina Fey’s book and then watched a few episodes on a plane (not Jet Fun), but this is the first time I’ve watched a new episode. It seemed pretty middle-of-the-pack to me. Frank, Toofer and Lutz as the Devil, Jesus and Santa was probably the funniest part and I thought the Kenneth storyline was the strongest. I liked Jack assuming that Liddy was saying money, but as always, CGI babytalk is creepy. That took me out of the episode. I also liked John McEnroe playing a chipper version of himself and the ridiculous use of “Camptown Races.” > [@Ellen\_Cherry](#): > > I just had a wacky thought. Didn’t Murphy Brown name her baby Avery? Was it a boy or a girl? Was that show on long enough ago for that Avery to be this Avery? Is it an in-joke? Murphy Brown’s Avery was a boy. He’d also be around 20. > [@corkboard](#): > > Liz is looking a little, well, cushier. Was Tina pregnant when they shot this? She had a baby over the summer, which is why this season is starting late. I assume they didn’t start shooting until a couple of months after she gave birth, but she did look different because of the pregnancy. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-season-six-tonight/609280/25 "2012-01-13T18:22:30Z")
> [@corkboard](#): > > Liz is looking a little, well, cushier. Was Tina pregnant when they shot this? I think she had just given [birth to Penelope](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tina_fey#Personal_life). She was born on August 10th. ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-season-six-tonight/609280/26 "2012-01-13T19:03:28Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > I also liked John McEnroe playing a chipper version of himself and the ridiculous use of “Camptown Races.” It’s good to see that he landed on his feet after the cancellation of [“Gold Case”](http://30rock.wikia.com/wiki/Gold_Case). ---
**Author:** ![corkboard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@corkboard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/corkboard)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-season-six-tonight/609280/27 "2012-01-13T20:24:12Z")
> [@Bob Ducca](#): > > I think she had just given [birth to Penelope](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tina_fey#Personal_life). She was born on August 10th. Which explains why she flashed her big post-birth boobies (bra’d, of course). Wow- Jeff Richmond is little, like a troll. ---
**Author:** ![Ellen\_Cherry](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellen_cherry/32/3600_2.png) [@Ellen\_Cherry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellen_Cherry)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-season-six-tonight/609280/28 "2012-01-13T21:12:43Z")
I think they made her look as fat as possible. A family of four could have lived in her dance-team pants! Wow her husband must _be_ micro-short. I think she’s pretty wee herself, isn’t she? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-season-six-tonight/609280/29 "2012-01-13T21:16:39Z")
The earlier shows (after the first season) were funnier than the current ones, and Liz was actually attractive and less dorky. ---
**Author:** ![Ellen\_Cherry](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellen_cherry/32/3600_2.png) [@Ellen\_Cherry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellen_Cherry)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-season-six-tonight/609280/30 "2012-01-13T21:20:04Z")
So in my extensive internet research in the past five minutes, I have learned that Tina is 5-4, her husband is 5-0 … and she was knifed in the face by a stranger when she was 5 years old. Mon dieu! I did notice the scar, but geez Louise! ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-season-six-tonight/609280/31 "2012-01-13T21:28:20Z")
[QUOTE=Marley23] Murphy Brown’s Avery was a boy. He’d also be around 20. [/QUOTE] Damn, that’s a splash in the face. Somehow it doesn’t seem that long ago. Avery Brown was played as a 5 year old by Haley Joel Osment. HJO is 23 because, per TV custom, they gave the infant hormones to grow him from non-verbal and potty training to wisecracking pre-schooler over a summer break. Bringing it back to topic, _30 Rock_ could have fun with that trope by showing Jack and Avery’s daughter appear as a 7 year old this year. I used to love 30 Rock but now I’m afraid I watch it with a dagger in my hand thinking “If it dies, perhaps _Community_ can live…”. Plus, I really do think it’s run its course. ---
**Author:** ![Ellen\_Cherry](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellen_cherry/32/3600_2.png) [@Ellen\_Cherry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellen_Cherry)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-season-six-tonight/609280/32 "2012-01-13T21:51:04Z")
No, it can’t. I just started watching it. And I want to imagine having Alec Baldwin’s baby for a while. ---
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-season-six-tonight/609280/33 "2012-01-13T22:08:03Z")
> [@Hypno-Toad](#): > > Any thoughts on who the mystery man is? WHAT mystery man? I honestly can’t remember anything about a mystery man. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-season-six-tonight/609280/34 "2012-01-13T22:09:19Z")
> [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](#): > > WHAT mystery man? I honestly can’t remember anything about a mystery man. The guy Liz met at the movies at the end of the episode. ---
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-season-six-tonight/609280/35 "2012-01-13T22:19:46Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > The guy Liz met at the movies at the end of the episode. (rewatching the last couple minutes) Oh, thanks! I missed that mixed in with everything else in that montage. Guess I kinda zoned out on that part. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-season-six-tonight/609280/36 "2012-01-13T22:37:52Z")
> [@Ellen\_Cherry](#): > > So in my extensive internet research in the past five minutes, I have learned that Tina is 5-4, her husband is 5-0 … and she was knifed in the face by a stranger when she was 5 years old. Mon dieu! I did notice the scar, but geez Louise! Her husband also wrote the “30 Rock” theme and does all of the incidental music. Also, they met when he was her director at Second City in Chicago (he’s 10 years older than her). ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2012, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-season-six-tonight/609280/37 "2012-01-14T01:17:32Z")
I thought it was a pretty good episode. The premise and characters are getting a little tired, and I think when Baldwin leaves it will be a pretty good time to end it, but I’m still enjoying the show. I could’ve watched a solid half-hour of Jenna insulting six year-olds. Didn’t the season ender have a sort of cliff-hanger last season? I can’t really remember, wasn’t it revealed they were being watched by someone or something? Or was that just a throw-away gag I didn’t get? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Controvert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dec6dc/32.png) [@The\_Controvert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Controvert)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2012, 9:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-season-six-tonight/609280/38 "2012-01-14T09:24:57Z")
I really liked the sappier version of “Camptown Races” at the end, but instead of Jenna saying “A disgusting disappointment!”, I think a funnier callback would be for her to repeat her awesome catchphrase “Go jump back up your mother!” ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2012, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-season-six-tonight/609280/39 "2012-01-14T10:59:21Z")
> [@The\_Controvert](#): > > I really liked the sappier version of “Camptown Races” at the end, but instead of Jenna saying “A disgusting disappointment!”, I think a funnier callback would be for her to repeat her awesome catchphrase “Go jump back up your mother!” I was hoping she’d shoot the kid in the face with a BB gun. ---
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2012, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-season-six-tonight/609280/40 "2012-01-14T18:15:58Z")
Tina Fey was on Letterman recently and mentioned how she was still in the process of losing her pregnancy weight in the first few episodes, so you will see her weight zig-zag depending on when a scene was shot. I thought the mystery guy was supposed to be the now single Ashton Kutcher. No Grizz or Dot Com. Foo. What was up with the other guys being dressed up to scare Kenneth? I can see the devil, but why were the others hiding and then not end up doing anything. Seems like a waste. The kid is incredibly advanced in language for a little over a year old. Surprising given the obvious linguistic limitations of her father. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-season-six-tonight/609280.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/30-rock-season-six-tonight/609280.md?page=3)