# 300: So FRIGGIN COOL! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 4, 2007, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/300-so-friggin-cool/394513 "2007-03-04T05:04:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2007, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/300-so-friggin-cool/394513/201 "2007-03-21T18:13:56Z")
I so want to see a Homoerotic Musical War Film with a happy ending! ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2007, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/300-so-friggin-cool/394513/202 "2007-03-21T18:27:35Z")
[QUOTE=devilsknew] Not to nitpick too much, but when Leonidas ordered his troops to “Eat a hearty Breakfast, because tonight we dine in Hell!” or something similar- that is probably an inexact quote, but the whole idea and ennui of Hell as delivered here doesn’t translate well and just reassured the Americana Warlording slant to this production, nothing like a damning to date this movie as entirely Chritianmericancentric. Leonidas would have inferred the underworld of [Hades](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hades) where all Greek dead went, not a burning Hell ruled by an anachronistic Lucifer and Christian Dualism. [/QUOTE] What? ---
**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2007, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/300-so-friggin-cool/394513/203 "2007-03-21T18:38:14Z")
Total N00b question: Is [this](http://www.amazon.com/300-Frank-Miller/dp/1569714029) the entire compliation of the 300 comic book series or what? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2007, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/300-so-friggin-cool/394513/204 "2007-03-21T18:45:52Z")
[QUOTE=Shirley Ujest] Total N00b question: Is [this](http://www.amazon.com/300-Frank-Miller/dp/1569714029) the entire compliation of the 300 comic book series or what? [/QUOTE] Yep. _300_ wasn’t a comic series, it was a graphic novel: it’s original publication was as a single, hard-bound book like the one in your link. ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2007, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/300-so-friggin-cool/394513/205 "2007-03-22T05:25:51Z")
[QUOTE=Shirley Ujest] I so want to see a Homoerotic Musical War Film with a happy ending! [/QUOTE] The _only_ way that would work is if it was done by Roger De Bris. (Waits to see if anyone gets the reference.) ---
**Author:** ![Enright3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/enright3/32/2897_2.png) [@Enright3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enright3)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2007, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/300-so-friggin-cool/394513/206 "2007-03-22T16:50:59Z")
[QUOTE=wolf in second hand clothing] “I liked _Titanic_ , but why’d they have to make it so _sad_?” _Happy Feet: the IMAX experience_ can kiss my ass. [/QUOTE] pardon the hijack while i add on: AMEN To That!!!. The move should be called “Crappy Feet”. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2007, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/300-so-friggin-cool/394513/207 "2007-03-24T14:01:20Z")
We saw “300” today. This is one thing that frustrates me about Thailand. All the breasts were pixellated out. But this was at one of the local art-house cinemas, and there was a preview for a Dutch film that’s coming soon; the breasts in that preview were not pixellated out. And then there’s a recent series of local movies about one of the more famous kings here, 16th century, and I heard from someone who watched them that they showed the girls at court bare-breasted, which apparently was the style at the time. Seems to have been okay for that film, which garnered a lot of publicity and which the Thais are virtually required to go see and like, but it’s not okay not for this one. Then there’s the irony of the live lesbian shows, where I can sit about a foot away from a buck-naked lesbian couple, a pair of Vanessa Mae look-alikes, having the steamiest sex imaginable on a well-lit stage. I guess you could argue that movies are more for the general public, but come on! In the old days, they used to smear Vaseline on the “naughty bits” in the movies. This at least had some entertainment value, because it caused the breast and crotch areas on these women to glow like some sort of weird nuclear accident. The advent of digital movies has made censorship easier, because pixellating is a lot less fuss. Starting about 10 years ago, there were one or two venues that managed to show this sort of thing uncensored, but not always; I heard the sex scene in “Monster’s Ball” was horribly butchered even at one of the cinemas that would show such scenes uncut if anyone did. The art-house place we went to today is normally good about showing films uncensored, but I guess it’s mostly for small ones from miscellaneous countries that sneak in under the radar. ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2007, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/300-so-friggin-cool/394513/208 "2007-03-24T18:04:08Z")
Mmmmmmmmm…pixillated breasts… ---
**Author:** ![BlackKnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eb8c5e/32.png) [@BlackKnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlackKnight)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2007, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/300-so-friggin-cool/394513/209 "2007-03-25T02:44:39Z")
I saw “300” today. I’d give it maybe 5 or 6 out of 10. It wasn’t bad, but it wasn’t anything particularly special either. I would probably have been far more entertained by either (1) A documentary about the battle, or about Sparta in general (2) “300” as done by MST3K. I had to bite the insides of my cheeks to stop from laughing at parts of the movie that probably weren’t supposed to be funny. (Example: When the young man’s head gets cut clean off, but his body is still standing for a second, I just imagined another Spartan yelling, “MEDIC!” as if there was still hope. For some reason that cracked me up. The beheading was just so over-the-top.) ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2007, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/300-so-friggin-cool/394513/210 "2007-03-25T03:21:43Z")
Yes, agree. The wife and I both thought Frank Miller’s “Sin City” was a better movie. (They didn’t pixellate the breasts in that one here, BTW. We watched it once in Hawaii and once here, we liked it so much. Almost the same, but we did notice that the scene in which the parole officer is walking nude through her place with a gun, only to find it’s only Marv, was shortened, but it’s that way on the DVD, too, so we figure the studio did it for some reason.) We also watched “Venus” last week in the same cinema as “300,” and nothing was pixellated out then. Go figure. ---
**Author:** ![Gukumatz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/74df32/32.png) [@Gukumatz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gukumatz)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2007, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/300-so-friggin-cool/394513/211 "2007-03-25T10:20:10Z")
Fantastic movie. An orgy in movie esthetics, for me - and faithful to Miller’s creative parameters, to boot. However, I _did_ burst out into in involuntary laughter when Xerxes put his hands on Leonidas’ shoulders. Oh, the innuendo! The dialogue - “It’s not my whips which they fear . . .” and the look on Leonidas’ face = gold! Immature, but yes, amusing. ---
**Author:** ![singular1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba9def/32.png) [@singular1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/singular1)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2007, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/300-so-friggin-cool/394513/212 "2007-03-25T17:36:20Z")
[QUOTE=Tuckerfan] The _only_ way that would work is if it was done by Roger De Bris. (Waits to see if anyone gets the reference.) [/QUOTE] 😃😃 😃🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2007, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/300-so-friggin-cool/394513/213 "2007-03-26T05:00:12Z")
[QUOTE=singular1] 😃😃 😃🆒 [/QUOTE] I got it, too. But I won’t spoil the surprise. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2007, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/300-so-friggin-cool/394513/214 "2007-03-26T13:10:54Z")
I really enjoyed the movie. I don’t sweat the COMPLETE departure from reality - I knew where it was going and chose to enjoy the fantasy feel that had a little claim to “hey - part’s of this really happened” buried deep within it. Oh - and was it just me, or did anyone think that Xerxes was very similar to the super-villain called Him on the PowerPuff Girls? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![RogueRacer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7ab992/32.png) [@RogueRacer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RogueRacer)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2007, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/300-so-friggin-cool/394513/215 "2007-03-26T17:06:16Z")
I feel the need to tell everyone that I saw the movie this weekend… in Sparta. (Wisconsin that is. It was just a short drive and seemed so appropriate since I grew up there.) ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2007, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/300-so-friggin-cool/394513/216 "2007-03-27T07:25:48Z")
[QUOTE=WordMan] I really enjoyed the movie. I don’t sweat the COMPLETE departure from reality - I knew where it was going and chose to enjoy the fantasy feel that had a little claim to “hey - part’s of this really happened” buried deep within it. Oh - and was it just me, or did anyone think that Xerxes was very similar to the super-villain called Him on the PowerPuff Girls? 🙂 [/QUOTE] Nah, not enough mascara, and he wasn’t wearing fishnet stockings. ---
**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2007, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/300-so-friggin-cool/394513/217 "2007-03-31T03:37:44Z")
Saw it tonight, loved it. It made me want to get back to the gym, though. I wonder what the Spartans’ diet and exercise plan consisted of. “This is blasphemy! This is madness!” “This is CROSS-TRAINING!” ---
**Author:** ![anamnesis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb8c5e/32.png) [@anamnesis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anamnesis)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2007, 9:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/300-so-friggin-cool/394513/218 "2007-03-31T09:08:35Z")
**Big Bad Voodoo Lou** : I know, seriously, this movie has inspired me to tone my upper body to new levels this summer. If I had nothing else to do all day, I’d spend it doing what Gerard Butler and the rest of the cast [did all day in preparation for the role](http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/mf/frame?theme=minfo&lid=wmv-56-p.1412231-163794,wmv-100-p.1412232-163794,wmv-300-p.1412233-163794,wmv-700-p.1412234-163794,wmv-28-p.1412231-163794&id=1809262865&f=1809262865&mspid=1809263616&type=m&a=0,15) … Of course, it would cost a small fortune for that kind of personal training, but it’s fantastic in that it doesn’t target any one particular area of the body, so the body never manages to adapt to it. That video gives me goosebumps. I wish I could find a gym that specialized in this sort of basic training taken to an extreme. I like how they say they put them through a lot of muscular and metabolic stress, even to the point where they’re vomiting, and that the workout is just as hard or harder than you thought it would be. You have to want it, and that makes me admire what the actors went through for the roles. I like how the one guy says “if you’re not nervous before you train, then think about it, because it might not be hard enough”. That’s inspiration to me. I’ve already gained five pounds of muscle in the last month doing some of the upper body stuff these guys did, and I’m not even taking protein supplements! Maybe I should’ve joined the marines. Or the Spartan army. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Gozu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gozu/32/6615_2.png) [@Gozu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gozu)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2007, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/300-so-friggin-cool/394513/219 "2007-03-31T15:57:50Z")
I read the comic when the first trailer first came out and blew my mind. The comic really felt like it was MADE to be adapted into a movie. Good comic too. The movie fell flat for me, I was quite disappointed. Maybe I shouldn’t have read the comic. ---
**Author:** ![brendon\_small](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brendon_small/32/17101_2.png) [@brendon\_small](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brendon_small)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2007, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/300-so-friggin-cool/394513/220 "2007-03-31T18:59:34Z")
Mrs. Small and I saw it at a place in Florida when we were on our honeymoon. It was great. I haven’t read this whole thread yet (ok, I only read the first page). I would gladly buy the movie on DVD and plan on it as soon as possible. I also looked at the graphic novel the other day. Pretty interesting stuff. I heard stories before I saw it about how it was a huge homo-erotic bit of random war. I never saw that in it…maybe I’m a little odd… I would definitely reccomend this movie to any person I know… Brendon [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/300-so-friggin-cool/394513.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/300-so-friggin-cool/394513.md?page=12)