# 32 "Czars"-How Many do we Need? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [July 20, 2009, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/32-czars-how-many-do-we-need/503690 "2009-07-20T23:15:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2009, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/32-czars-how-many-do-we-need/503690/21 "2009-07-21T13:52:02Z")
“In Soviet Russia, czar names president.” ---
**Author:** ![Reloy3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c68b51/32.png) [@Reloy3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reloy3)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2009, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/32-czars-how-many-do-we-need/503690/22 "2009-07-21T14:29:03Z")
That is a lot of czars. If only there were someone to coordinate and oversee their work and ensure their effectiveness so the President can concentrate on the bigger picture. What would we call someone to oversee all of these czars . . . ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2009, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/32-czars-how-many-do-we-need/503690/23 "2009-07-21T14:57:28Z")
Czar Czar Binks? ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2009, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/32-czars-how-many-do-we-need/503690/24 "2009-07-21T15:11:04Z")
> [@ralph124c](#): > > Obama seems to think that appointing"Czars" to head government efforts will solve a ot of problems. MY QUESTION: IS THERE ANY PROOF THAT “cZARS” SOLVE PROBLEM? oR ARE WE JUST BLOWING MORE MONEY ON HACKS? I agree. This “Czar” thing is gettign old. It’s about time he starts appointing “Paramount Rulers”, “Kaisers”, “Maharajas”, “Grand Visirs” and a “Queen Mother” for good measure. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2009, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/32-czars-how-many-do-we-need/503690/25 "2009-07-21T15:26:28Z")
Perhaps we can get a Great Panjandrum out of it if the economy improves. ---
**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2009, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/32-czars-how-many-do-we-need/503690/26 "2009-07-21T15:47:52Z")
I can’t decide whether the automaker bailout should be overseen by a Car czar or an Autocrat. Maybe we should have one of each. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2009, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/32-czars-how-many-do-we-need/503690/27 "2009-07-22T06:31:30Z")
One for GM, and one for Chrysler? ---
**Author:** ![anya\_marie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ebca7d/32.png) [@anya\_marie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anya_marie)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2009, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/32-czars-how-many-do-we-need/503690/28 "2009-07-22T06:54:18Z")
With czar, appointment cancels you! ---
**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2009, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/32-czars-how-many-do-we-need/503690/29 "2009-07-22T07:42:02Z")
> [@Sailboat](#): > > I can’t decide whether the automaker bailout should be overseen by a Car czar or an Autocrat. Maybe we should have one of each. Whatever he is called, he should immediately cancel bargaining with dealers. Put the goddamned price on the window and forget the bullshit. OOPS! Sorry about the language; I thought I was posting in the pit. ---
**Author:** ![CateAyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/50afbb/32.png) [@CateAyo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CateAyo)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2009, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/32-czars-how-many-do-we-need/503690/30 "2009-07-22T11:43:27Z")
I prefer Tsar. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2009, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/32-czars-how-many-do-we-need/503690/31 "2009-07-22T12:43:57Z")
I don’t think we should be Tsaring everyone with the same brush. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2009, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/32-czars-how-many-do-we-need/503690/32 "2009-07-22T12:45:57Z")
> [@LouisB](#): > > OOPS! Sorry about the language; I thought I was posting in the pit. There’s no rule against swearing in MPSIMS, so don’t worry about it. ---
**Author:** ![Mtgman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@Mtgman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mtgman)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2009, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/32-czars-how-many-do-we-need/503690/33 "2009-07-22T15:40:46Z")
Do you know what’s worth fighting for? When it’s not worth dying for? Does it need oversight to do good And you feel they’d rip you off if they could? Does risk outweigh the gain? Maybe look for someone to blame? Did someone make your wallet feel pain? We’re in ruins One, 32 czars Started with cars, now they’re all over One, 32 czars Throw up your arms into the sky, it’s not kosher When your climate needs a czar but you can’t see them getting far Maybe the czar for intel can help But they’ll probably just moan and yelp Your faith-based czar sounds great Healthcare czar’s feelin’ the hate Guantanamo was built to last Fried is screwed One, 32 czars Started with cars, now they’re all over One, 32 czars Throw up your arms into the sky, it’s not kosher The border czar’s losing the fight Drug czar’s right behind and burning out bright The green-jobs czar is just irony So’s the czar for stimulus accountability Remember last time we had lots of czars And they went a little too far The peasants didn’t let their shit slide Executions One, 32 czars Started with cars, now they’re all over One, 32 czars Throw up your arms into the sky, it’s not kosher One, 32 czars Started with cars, now they’re all over One, 32 czars Throw up your arms into the sky, it’s not kosher Enjoy, Steven ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2009, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/32-czars-how-many-do-we-need/503690/34 "2009-07-22T16:15:58Z")
Don’t turn around Obama’s czar’s in town. ---
**Author:** ![Markxxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5daacb/32.png) [@Markxxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Markxxx)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2009, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/32-czars-how-many-do-we-need/503690/35 "2009-07-22T17:05:09Z")
Well don’t forget the Czars each have staff too. The real problem is once they are in place they never go anywhere. Thus if Obama establishes them and loses the election in 2012, to a Republican, you can bet that president won’t abandon them but fill them up with his choices. This is one of the reasons why I am convinced we have enough taxes. The government wastes money with redundancy and unneeded jobs. I recall a quote from _Green Acres_ by Mr Kimball > [@](#): > > That’s a great example of our government in action, putting two people to work where only one worked before. ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2009, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/32-czars-how-many-do-we-need/503690/36 "2009-07-23T00:29:48Z")
Hey! This is exactly what I bitched about in my blog entry for the day. The report that he’s going to tag Peter Singer science czar is just a sick joke, right? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/32-czars-how-many-do-we-need/503690.md?page=1)