# 327,151,193 Muslims **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 26, 2004, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/327-151-193-muslims/276736 "2004-11-26T11:03:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2004, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/327-151-193-muslims/276736/61 "2004-11-27T14:10:57Z")
> [@GorillaMan](#): > > Just in case anyone missed it. Curved Air! I can’t believe another person has heard of Curved Air! Weird … ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2004, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/327-151-193-muslims/276736/62 "2004-11-27T14:42:44Z")
> [@Brutus](#): > > The muslim world is chock full of problems, from Morocco to Malaysia (And increasingly, Europe). Agreed. And huge problems exist in “the Christian world”, too, not strictly related to the majority religion. > [@Brutus](#): > > What percentage must be problem-ridden before you folks recognize that A) Problems exist, Stated in OP. > [@Brutus](#): > > B) They must be dealt with post-haste, Which problems, and dealt with by whom? > [@Brutus](#): > > C) Useless politically-correct handwringing only exacerbates the situation, since it quells any real discussion of the problems. Labelling a plea against unfair prejudice as “politically-correct handwringing” is bullshit. > [@Brutus](#): > > You may prefer that people hone to keen edge their condemnation (Those fucking Nizari Isma’ilis!). but that just isn’t human nature. When a poster on this board talks about a facet of America being a homogenous mass, or Americans being, for example, “gun-toting rednecks” there is a pile-on requesting that the person who created the stereotype withdraw. And quite rightly too. This is a request for the same consideration to be extended to 1.2 billion very diverse people, who are grouped together by us purely on the basis of their religion. > [@Brutus](#): > > Besides, you aren’t seriously holding up Bangladesh and Indonesia as shining examples of how things should be, are you? As if though having had a female leader means those countries don’t have some pretty serious problems? Not at all; those countries suffer from severe problems, of which only a tiny proportion is caused by their religion. However, I get the impression that a large number of people think that the entire “Muslim world” is like fucking Afghanistan under the Taliban. It isn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2004, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/327-151-193-muslims/276736/63 "2004-11-28T11:55:30Z")
> [@This Year's Model](#): > > To ignore the poetry, lyrics, and fucktards, and return to the pedantic nitpicking tone earlier established; Just gotta say that I loved this comment. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2004, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/327-151-193-muslims/276736/64 "2004-11-28T23:11:02Z")
matt\_mcl writes: \> Or you could, if the United States had ever had a female president. Oh, come on, I’m not completely stupid. Please make an attempt to understand my posts without assuming that I’m an idiot. I said that: \> . . . countries where there’s a tradition of the members of a family being the \> leader of one of the main parties . . . Of course, you could say the same thing \> about the U.S. In other words, I was making fun of the U.S. for electing the son of a former President as the current President. In fact, is there any other first-world country in which it’s so common for members of political families to be elected to major political offices over and over? It’s common in other third-world countries, but where else in the developed world is it so common? ---
**Author:** ![litost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c4cdca/32.png) [@litost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/litost)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2004, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/327-151-193-muslims/276736/65 "2004-11-28T23:30:36Z")
**jjimm** I agree with every single sentiment in the OP _except_ the notion that electing a female leader somehow indicates something positive, especially for the female sex in that country. The female leaders in South Asia are almost always part of political dynasties and the big names I can recall were all either daughters or wives of hugely popular male leaders. One could even argue that their ascendancy to power represents a patronizing streak as a lot of voters think of these women as carrying on their father’s/husband’s legacy (something a woman is “expected” to do culturally). BTW, I wonder if your OP will get through to those who need to understand it. Most likely, those who frequently needlessly taint the Muslim world (a suicide bomber in Palestine = 1 billion terrorists/terrorist sympathizers sprung from a violent religion) will portray themselves as politically incorrect brave souls cutting right through the kumbayah bullshit calling a spade a spade etcetera etcetera [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/327-151-193-muslims/276736.md?page=3)