# 3rd Democratic Debate 12/19/15 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [December 18, 2015, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3rd-democratic-debate-12-19-15/740788 "2015-12-18T17:45:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3rd-democratic-debate-12-19-15/740788/41 "2015-12-20T03:25:20Z")
Is it not being shown live on the West Coast? My guide shows it starting at 7:30 PST, which is a few minutes away. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3rd-democratic-debate-12-19-15/740788/42 "2015-12-20T03:29:20Z")
It started at 5:30 PST ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3rd-democratic-debate-12-19-15/740788/43 "2015-12-20T03:31:53Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > It started at 5:30 PST For some reason I thought this one was also on CNN. I’ll have to see the rebroadcast. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3rd-democratic-debate-12-19-15/740788/44 "2015-12-20T03:36:33Z")
It is on ABC ---
**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3rd-democratic-debate-12-19-15/740788/45 "2015-12-20T03:47:43Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Hillary is controlling the debate. She’s looking strong. Yup. O’Malley is like-able, but he’s clearly a lightweight, and a bit intrusive and annoying with his first statement regarding the DNC database issue. I like Bernie’s ideas generally, but he seems to be a bit “black and white” and seems to lack nuance, and a bit “crusty” and inflexible. Hillary demonstrates a great depth of experience and nuance with her opinions. For me, I would be happy with either Bernie or Hillary as the Democratic nominee, but I think that Hillary has a far deeper understanding of the complexity of the job. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3rd-democratic-debate-12-19-15/740788/46 "2015-12-20T03:49:19Z")
Clearly Hillary dominated things tonight but I think it telling that I would be comfortable having any one of these three serve as our next President. Sadly, there is not a single one of the other major party I can say that about. ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3rd-democratic-debate-12-19-15/740788/47 "2015-12-20T03:57:04Z")
O’Malley basically called both Hillary and Bernie old in the ISIS/Asad round with his ‘perspective from another generation’ comment. Petty and uncalled for. ---
**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3rd-democratic-debate-12-19-15/740788/48 "2015-12-20T03:58:45Z")
What a difference there is between this debate and the last Republican debate. Democrats are discussing serious and nuanced issues. Republicans are still acting like children. ---
**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3rd-democratic-debate-12-19-15/740788/49 "2015-12-20T04:00:10Z")
> [@Onomatopoeia](#): > > O’Malley basically called both Hillary and Bernie old in the ISIS/Asad round with his ‘perspective from another generation’ comment. Petty and uncalled for. That’s all he’s got. He’s in way over his head. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3rd-democratic-debate-12-19-15/740788/50 "2015-12-20T04:05:52Z")
O’Malley also spends all of his time talking about how he is so major better than anybody else and has accomplished so much more. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3rd-democratic-debate-12-19-15/740788/51 "2015-12-20T04:08:32Z")
Did O’Malley mention that he’s not a Washington insider? ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3rd-democratic-debate-12-19-15/740788/52 "2015-12-20T04:14:08Z")
I give the debate to Hillary, although Bernie was no slouch by any means. Although I wasn’t in love with how she responded to the heroin question as it sounded like she winged it, Hillary simply came off more researched and sounded more presidential than Bernie to me. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3rd-democratic-debate-12-19-15/740788/53 "2015-12-20T05:01:09Z")
You mean coached. There’s a reason they get 500 page briefing books before debates plus extensive rehearsals. ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3rd-democratic-debate-12-19-15/740788/54 "2015-12-20T05:10:45Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > You mean coached. There’s a reason they get 500 page briefing books before debates plus extensive rehearsals. I said what I meant. Whether or not she and the other candidates were coached (of course they were) is a different issue. These debates are just as much about perception as they are about substance, and Hillary came off slightly better than Bernie in both areas, IMHO. Hey, at least the Democratic debates have substance. Too bad almost no one watched. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3rd-democratic-debate-12-19-15/740788/55 "2015-12-20T05:16:48Z")
By design. ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3rd-democratic-debate-12-19-15/740788/56 "2015-12-20T05:21:28Z")
Yeah, I’ll give you that one. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 9:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3rd-democratic-debate-12-19-15/740788/57 "2015-12-20T09:31:37Z")
Has anyone tabulated how many minutes each candidate was given? I’ve just started watching and maybe his time improves, but if I were O’Malley I’d be irritated. If they invite him at all, shouldn’t they give him 33% of the time? ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 9:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3rd-democratic-debate-12-19-15/740788/58 "2015-12-20T09:42:22Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > Has anyone tabulated how many minutes each candidate was given? I’ve just started watching and maybe his time improves, but if I were O’Malley I’d be irritated. If they invite him at all, shouldn’t they give him 33% of the time? O who? Seriously O’Malley is running for VP and everyone knows it. Why have the pretense of giving him equal time when nothing he says matters as he has zero chance at the nomination? This race is between Hillary and Bernie. That O’Malley is there at all is either a joke or a concession. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 9:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3rd-democratic-debate-12-19-15/740788/59 "2015-12-20T09:46:02Z")
Maybe I should retract the last post. I clicked Pause and posted in fury when O’Malley was not allowed to speak about gun control, an issue he is passionate about. However, after clicking Resume I see that O’Malley was persistent, spoke over the Mods for a while and the Mods eventually gave him 45 seconds. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 9:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3rd-democratic-debate-12-19-15/740788/60 "2015-12-20T09:53:05Z")
> [@Onomatopoeia](#): > > O who? … That O’Malley is there at all is either a joke or a concession. Yes, but it is the media itself, to some extent, which causes this. Hillary, like Paris Hilton or the Kadashians is a news item. The guy with the funny white hair has also become a news item as have, also, some of the clowns from the other Party. There’s no obvious remedy, but it is unfortunate that we sell political ideas the same way we sell detergents or soda pop. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3rd-democratic-debate-12-19-15/740788.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/3rd-democratic-debate-12-19-15/740788.md?page=4)