# 4/20

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/4-20/812722>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [April 19, 2018, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/4-20/812722 "2018-04-19T18:00:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/4-20/812722/21 "2018-04-20T16:58:20Z")

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> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#):
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> And Hitlers. [Birthday]

I once postulated that the reason we celebrate 4/20 is because it is important to meditate about peace on the anniversary of such a horrific event.

That may have also been the time when I realized that smoking out of a bong involves all of the basic elements (fire, wind [your breath], earth [of a certain kind], and water), and was therefore something something.

Ahh, college.

Today, I walked past the gathering mob in downtown Denver on my way into a courthouse for work. I’m glad we’re to the point of legalization; it makes the parade sort of overkill, though. And the budtenders have warned all of the regulars about the crazy lines expected at all of the stores.

> [@dtlique](#):
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> John Boehner wants you to get high. Seriously. He’s now on the board of directors of a marijuana growing company. Never mind that he was completely opposed to legalizing it when he was a congressman.

Have you seen his[son-in-law](https://newsone.com/2416489/john-boehner-dominic-lakhan/)? I’m guessing it might have come up a time or two at recent family gatherings.

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**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/4-20/812722/22 "2018-04-20T18:08:19Z")

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I think I just figured out why my local Whole Foods seemed so understaffed today. “Sorry, boss-dude, I’ve been coughing since I got up this morning”.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/4-20/812722/23 "2018-04-20T19:15:27Z")

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On 4/20, Chuck Schumer announces legislation to take cannabis [off Schedule I](https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/national-international/Chuck-Schumer-Seeks-to-Decriminalize-Marijuana-480370463.html).

Which would not affect any state laws that make it illegal, but it is a start.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/4-20/812722/24 "2018-04-20T20:00:32Z")

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Just remembered, in the states where it is legal, you are still in violation of federal law if you have it in national parks, forests, monuments or other federal property. If he were to get it taken off Schedule I, it would no longer be illegal in many of those places in states where it is legal.

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/4-20/812722/25 "2018-04-20T20:30:54Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Just remembered, in the states where it is legal, you are still in violation of federal law if you have it in national parks, forests, monuments or other federal property. If he were to get it taken off Schedule I, it would no longer be illegal in many of those places in states where it is legal.

I believe it would also make federal research money available to study its effects/applications.

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**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2018, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/4-20/812722/26 "2018-04-20T20:50:03Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Just remembered, in the states where it is legal, you are still in violation of federal law if you have it in national parks, forests, monuments or other federal property. If he were to get it taken off Schedule I, it would no longer be illegal in many of those places in states where it is legal.

It’s still illegal under federal law no matter where you have it, whether on federal land or not. Taking it off Schedule I (and assuming it’s not put on Sched II) would remove it from being a federal offense. So it would then be legal in those states that have legalized it.

However, I’d be surprised if marijuana weren’t mentioned in other federal statutes, such as ones applying to drug testing for truck drivers. So just taking it off Sched I will not necessarily make it 100% legal in every instance in mj-legal states.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/4-20/812722/27 "2018-04-21T00:30:07Z")

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Is it just me or does anyone else think the whole origin story sound like it could make a decent movie? It would be comedic, obviously, and the release date is obvious.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 9:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/4-20/812722/28 "2018-04-21T09:59:46Z")

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I’ve read the origin story, but it doesn’t explain when 4/20 became a widespread thing. I’ll confess this year is the first time I’ve noticed it. Smoked dope off and on through the 1970s and 1980s without being aware of it.

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2018, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/4-20/812722/29 "2018-04-21T13:47:50Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> Is it just me or does anyone else think the whole origin story sound like it could make a decent movie? It would be comedic, obviously, and the release date is obvious.

Like, a prequil for _Half Baked_. I’d watch that.

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