# 40,000 experience power outage in North Carolina, due to sabotage (4-DEC-22)

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Tags:** breaking-news\
**Created:** [December 4, 2022, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/40-000-experience-power-outage-in-north-carolina-due-to-sabotage-4-dec-22/976033 "2022-12-04T23:34:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2022, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/40-000-experience-power-outage-in-north-carolina-due-to-sabotage-4-dec-22/976033/41 "2022-12-05T22:13:46Z")

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> [@knavette57](#):
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> Once bigotry and violence crosses over into the everyday comfort of everyone, then a wall has been breached. I think most Americans are not on board for what “troubles” would mean for their daily comfort (insurrection at the Capitol is OK, not having electricity, not OK). At least I hope they aren’t.

IMO most Americans who are OK with bigotry and violence aren’t going to give a shit about any violence that doesn’t shut off their own personal lights/heat/AC.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2022, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/40-000-experience-power-outage-in-north-carolina-due-to-sabotage-4-dec-22/976033/42 "2022-12-05T22:18:33Z")

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> [@Babale](#):
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> That means he’s always got a perfect flank!

It means He is always in the perfect position and worst position simultaneously.

Honestly it’s just confusing to think about.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2022, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/40-000-experience-power-outage-in-north-carolina-due-to-sabotage-4-dec-22/976033/43 "2022-12-05T23:02:27Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> It means He is always in the perfect position and worst position simultaneously.

I believe that when you have Advantage and Disadvantage at the same time the two cancel out and you roll just one d20.

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**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2022, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/40-000-experience-power-outage-in-north-carolina-due-to-sabotage-4-dec-22/976033/44 "2022-12-05T23:10:56Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> The validity of these conclusions has not been “well-documented” on this board, at least not yet.

Nor anywhere else, for that matter.

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**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/40-000-experience-power-outage-in-north-carolina-due-to-sabotage-4-dec-22/976033/45 "2022-12-06T00:37:09Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> Why would God need a rifle?

Because the pope has bullet proof glass.

[https://pics.onsizzle.com/pope-mobile-because-nothing-shows-your-faith-in-god-like-13550711.png](https://pics.onsizzle.com/pope-mobile-because-nothing-shows-your-faith-in-god-like-13550711.png)

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**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/40-000-experience-power-outage-in-north-carolina-due-to-sabotage-4-dec-22/976033/46 "2022-12-06T03:41:07Z")

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> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> > [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> > The validity of these conclusions has not been “well-documented” on this board, at least not yet.
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> Nor anywhere else, for that matter.

Oh, right, I forgot.

The woman, when questioned by police, said that the Angel Gabriel from Heaven came, his wings as drifted snow, his eyes as flame, “All hail,” said he, “thou drag shows are an offense to the Almighty and I’m going to put a stop to it with my Glock.” Got’cha.

I’m sure it’s a coincidence that two electric power substations were destroyed by gunfire mere minutes after the drag show started, and that the sheriff seems to be a sympathizer. But sure, let’s give them the benefit of the doubt. It worked great before the Nazis took over in Germany.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/40-000-experience-power-outage-in-north-carolina-due-to-sabotage-4-dec-22/976033/47 "2022-12-06T03:57:03Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> > [@Babale](#):
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> > But, according to her and the police, she meant this in a “because God is punishing us for an immoral drag show” sense.
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> Why would God need a rifle? -

He doesn’t want to give away that He doesn’t exist.

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**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/40-000-experience-power-outage-in-north-carolina-due-to-sabotage-4-dec-22/976033/48 "2022-12-06T03:59:10Z")

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That’s not “well-documented.”

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/40-000-experience-power-outage-in-north-carolina-due-to-sabotage-4-dec-22/976033/49 "2022-12-06T04:00:01Z")

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> [@Asuka](#):
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> Even diehard Republicans in that area would all agree shooting up transformers for the entire county isn’t the way to go to “protest” something, it’s massively hurting local businesses after all.

We’re only a few generations removed from politicians in that part of the country shutting down the entire public school system for several years rather than give black kids an equal education.

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**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/40-000-experience-power-outage-in-north-carolina-due-to-sabotage-4-dec-22/976033/50 "2022-12-06T04:26:49Z")

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> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#):
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> That’s not “well-documented.”

[sigh]

Okay, if you insist, I’ll use the words _"alleged_ suspects" because they’re too chickenshit to admit responsibility. Even Al Qaeda and ISIS do that.

In fact, they’re not even suspects, because the sheriff is in their back pocket. “People of interest.”

Please don’t sue me, Y’all Qaeda. Maybe they’ll remember that people in this thread tried to give them the benefit of the doubt when they start lining us up against the wall soon. But I doubt it. It doesn’t matter to them whether you’re an _actual_ pedophile or whether you just voted for Biden, you’re all going to Hell as far as they’re concerned.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/40-000-experience-power-outage-in-north-carolina-due-to-sabotage-4-dec-22/976033/51 "2022-12-06T04:32:52Z")

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> [@ekedolphin](#):
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> Okay, if you insist, I’ll use the words _"alleged_ suspects" because they’re too chickenshit to admit responsibility. Even Al Qaeda and ISIS do that.
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> In fact, they’re not even suspects, because the sheriff is in their back pocket. “People of interest.”

I’m surprised the sheriff/accomplice hasn’t tried to blame “antifa” yet.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/40-000-experience-power-outage-in-north-carolina-due-to-sabotage-4-dec-22/976033/52 "2022-12-06T04:34:53Z")

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Moderating:

This is a breaking news thread. Please take political or other discussion and start a thread elsewhere. Comments for this thread should be confined to breaking news.

Thanks.

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**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/40-000-experience-power-outage-in-north-carolina-due-to-sabotage-4-dec-22/976033/53 "2022-12-06T04:39:00Z")

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Right. I’m crossing the line.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/40-000-experience-power-outage-in-north-carolina-due-to-sabotage-4-dec-22/976033/54 "2022-12-06T04:42:41Z")

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Several are, not just you. It’s a good topic for discussion, but not in a breaking news thread. I’ll leave it to posters to start a thread where they choose. Either P&E or IMHO would be good choices, I think.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 9:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/40-000-experience-power-outage-in-north-carolina-due-to-sabotage-4-dec-22/976033/55 "2022-12-06T09:01:35Z")

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Beau has some opinions.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Opp09pm_r68/maxresdefault.jpg "Let's talk about Moore County, North Carolina....") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Opp09pm_r68)

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**Author:** ![chappachula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d2c977/32.png) [@chappachula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chappachula)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/40-000-experience-power-outage-in-north-carolina-due-to-sabotage-4-dec-22/976033/56 "2022-12-06T13:20:49Z")

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Beau is an interesting guy. but geeze I wish he didn’t use video.  
He should write a blog or a web site. I would read it regularly.But I’m not gonna sit through 6 minutes of slow-talking every time.  
I could read it MUCH more quickly.

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/40-000-experience-power-outage-in-north-carolina-due-to-sabotage-4-dec-22/976033/57 "2022-12-06T13:24:14Z")

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If he did, there’s be an equal number of people going “Geez, he’s an interesting guy but I wish he didn’t use text - can’t he make a video?”

YouTube does allow you to change the playback speed. Go to “settings”. It might be helpful.

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**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/40-000-experience-power-outage-in-north-carolina-due-to-sabotage-4-dec-22/976033/58 "2022-12-06T13:42:23Z")

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Beau is much better at elucidating these thoughts than I am.

He’s right, of course. Suspicion is not proof. And if I’ve been jumping to conclusions, I apologize. I’m just so goddamn fed up with domestic terrorism.

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/40-000-experience-power-outage-in-north-carolina-due-to-sabotage-4-dec-22/976033/59 "2022-12-06T14:11:54Z")

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I am heartened by the fact that the FBI is investigating. I pray for a quick return to normalcy and that there will be no casualties.

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**Author:** ![excavating\_for\_a\_mind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e8c25b/32.png) [@excavating\_for\_a\_mind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/excavating_for_a_mind)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/40-000-experience-power-outage-in-north-carolina-due-to-sabotage-4-dec-22/976033/60 "2022-12-06T15:12:53Z")

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> [@ekedolphin](#):
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> …Suspicion is not proof. And if I’ve been jumping to conclusions, I apologize. I’m just so goddamn fed up with domestic terrorism.

While it is possible, perhaps even likely, that the attack on the power stations was to protest against a Drag Show, the evidence, so far, is incredibly weak

Do you think the Sheriff or any others involved in local LE are directly involved in the incident? Do you think they condone the incident? Do you think the they are not seriously interested in apprehending those responsible? Those are extraordinary claims, you better have extraordinary evidence. Otherwise, let the investigators investigate.

Frankly, I would be much more concerned that this incident had nothing to do with a Drag Show.

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