# 40 reasons for gun control **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 16, 2002, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/40-reasons-for-gun-control/137016 "2002-11-16T12:25:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2002, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/40-reasons-for-gun-control/137016/41 "2002-11-16T23:45:54Z")
> [@](#): > > Victoria Police has [sic] revealed there has been a considerable increase in handgun crime in the past financial year. Illegal pistol seizures are up 18%; the use of all guns in assaults up 46%. GCA Press Release 23/09/2002 ---
**Author:** ![Baraqiyal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecccb3/32.png) [@Baraqiyal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baraqiyal)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2002, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/40-reasons-for-gun-control/137016/42 "2002-11-17T00:01:58Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Tripler \* > \*\*Please take my commentary (as it was intended) on the original writer. > … > I still maintain my position against the quoted statements. > \*\* I still don’t think you get it, Tripler. The whole list is pro-gun. Try reading it again in that light. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2002, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/40-reasons-for-gun-control/137016/43 "2002-11-17T00:33:33Z")
And the original writer had the same intent as the OP - to make gun control advocates look hypocritical and wrong-headed. ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2002, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/40-reasons-for-gun-control/137016/44 "2002-11-17T00:34:27Z")
> [@](#): > > It’s threads like this that make me sooooo glad I live in Australia where gun-ownership is NOT the norm. Just to shatter a misconception: It’s not really the norm in America, either. What is it, something like 80 million gun owners? ---
**Author:** ![Kalashnikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/2bfe46/32.png) [@Kalashnikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalashnikov)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2002, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/40-reasons-for-gun-control/137016/45 "2002-11-17T00:48:26Z")
Nope, Tripler still doesn’t get it. It’s somewhat like a parody - you won’t ‘get’ it if you’re not very familiar with the original ideas it’s parodying. This is a very old piece, but I’ve always seen it presented as something to entertain pro-gun folks rather as something to convince anyone. ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2002, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/40-reasons-for-gun-control/137016/46 "2002-11-17T01:46:51Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by SPOOFE \* > \*\* > Just to shatter a misconception: It’s not really the norm in America, either. What is it, something like 80 million gun owners? \*\* Apologies **Spoofe** , but the impression I get from much that comes out of the US is that most citizens, even if they do not own a firearm, are supportive of the inalienable _right_ to own one. That view seems to be only held by a minority here in Australia. (I am finding it difficult to get hold of reliable (non-partisan) stats about gun ownership/rates of firearm useage in crime etc both for Aus and the US. Anybody got any clues where I could access them…I’ve tried the ABS and the Australian Bureau of Criminology but to no real avail. Please do not suggest the NRA or the Sporting Shooters Association or Gun Control Australia!!) ---
**Author:** ![Tripler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripler/32/21807_2.png) [@Tripler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tripler)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2002, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/40-reasons-for-gun-control/137016/47 "2002-11-17T01:49:13Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Baraqiyal \* > \*\*I still don’t think you get it, Tripler. The whole list is pro-gun. Try reading it again in that light. \*\* Yeah, that’s all fine and dandy when someone _tells_ you it’s a tongue-in-cheek list. However there’s nothing in the OP to suggest that it’s even remotely so. The only way to realize this (which is where I failed) is to read a few lines down and see that it was posted in jest. Too damn many times have I heard comments similar to these from friends or family members who are anti-gun, and I just smile and nod my head. Doesn’t mean I agree with 'em, just that I’ve heard their voice. It may be a very old piece, but it’s the first time I’ve seen it. It’s kinda hard to detect sarcasm over a message board when you can’t detect the intonation in someone’s “posting” voice. . . Tripler But to that original author: Why I outta. . . . 😃 ---
**Author:** ![minty\_green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@minty\_green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minty_green)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2002, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/40-reasons-for-gun-control/137016/48 "2002-11-17T03:11:03Z")
Tripler, it’s good to know that fine people like you are out there making the pro-gun argument. ---
**Author:** ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2002, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/40-reasons-for-gun-control/137016/49 "2002-11-17T03:21:32Z")
Oh come now, **Tripler**. The list was OBVIOUSLY tongue in cheek…that’s why no one except you took it apart for a bit by bit rebuttal 🙂 Especially #2. Read #2 again. But it’s OK, because we still love you. Even if you are dense. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Tripler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripler/32/21807_2.png) [@Tripler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tripler)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2002, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/40-reasons-for-gun-control/137016/50 "2002-11-17T03:48:57Z")
**Neruotik** , I prefer the term “obtuse”, thank you very much. 😃 Tripler Bit-by-bit man, bit . . by . . . bit. ---
**Author:** ![Tripler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripler/32/21807_2.png) [@Tripler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tripler)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2002, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/40-reasons-for-gun-control/137016/51 "2002-11-17T03:50:11Z")
Especially when I can’t use a freakin’ spell check. :rolleyes: Tripler Sorry, \*\*Neurotik \*\* ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2002, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/40-reasons-for-gun-control/137016/52 "2002-11-17T04:09:05Z")
**unclviny** , go to the ATMB (About This Message Board) forum and read all the sticky threads, particularly FAQ - guidelines for posting at the SDMB and New and improved registration agreement. You should also read the forum descriptions more carefully. The BBQ Pit is NOT the place for Great Debates. Nor is it a place to troll. Do not troll in ANY forum of the SDMB. A good number of your posts are borderline trolling. Stop it, if you wish to continue posting here. I’m closing this thread. Lynn For the Straight Dope [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/40-reasons-for-gun-control/137016.md?page=2)