# 41% approval rating

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/41-approval-rating/784664>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 17, 2017, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/41-approval-rating/784664 "2017-04-17T20:28:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/41-approval-rating/784664/21 "2017-04-18T01:51:06Z")

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I certainly approve of the fact that he’s too incompetent to destroy American healthcare like he promised he would. He’s showing promising signs of failure on several other fronts, as well.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/41-approval-rating/784664/22 "2017-04-18T03:35:05Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> Discounting things like the Muslim ban, a promise there was no way in hell he could keep, for example.

You do realize he is still trying to keep that bigoted promise, don’t You? As long as he is still trying to screw over Muslims, his base will support him.

> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> “I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose voters.” - Trump
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> I don’t think this is 100% true, but more than 50% of his voters would certainly stick by him even if he murdered someone in broad daylight.

If he murdered a White Christian he would be done for. Otherwise, his base would still support him. Hey, those morons support him when his policies hurt them. The important thing for said morons is those policies hurt certain minorities.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/41-approval-rating/784664/23 "2017-04-18T03:45:08Z")

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From all reports he ran a successful Easter Egg roll. So there’s that.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/41-approval-rating/784664/24 "2017-04-18T04:03:46Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> From all reports he ran a successful Easter Egg roll. So there’s that.

[Not all reports.](http://www.theroot.com/the-top-5-moments-from-the-white-house-easter-egg-roll-1794400551)

[NYTimes](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/17/us/politics/white-house-easter-egg-roll-trump.html)

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> Mrs. Trump, who lives in New York and has few staff members, faced challenges in planning and executing the Egg Roll, and the White House said it had been scaled back considerably this year to allow about 21,000 visitors, down from 37,000 in recent years, in part because the annual party had become too disorderly to be enjoyed by children and their families. But planning also began late, leaving vendors and participants wondering for a time if the event would go forward at all.
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> Instead of the A-list celebrities and crowds of costumed characters that have graced past Egg Rolls, this year’s featured a few little-known musical acts and military bands playing jazz and spring-themed standards, and fewer characters strolling the South Lawn to greet children.

Consider there were more people than eggs.

There were many fewer attendees than previous years.

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**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/41-approval-rating/784664/25 "2017-04-18T04:06:22Z")

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You’re looking at the wrong news sources to figure out why Trump’s supporters support him. They support him because what they’re seeing are stories like this:

[Populism, VIII: The unlikeliest populist by Victor Davis Hanson](http://www.newcriterion.com/articles.cfm/Populism--VIII--The-unlikeliest-populist-8643)

[Donald Trump’s Latest Executive Order Aims To Make Companies ‘Hire American’](http://dailycaller.com/2017/04/17/donald-trumps-latest-executive-order-aims-to-make-companies-hire-american/#ixzz4eZPd9mW2)

[Report: POTUS TRUMP to Sign Order That Will Overhaul Visa Program for High-Skilled Workers](http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/04/report-potus-trump-sign-order-will-overhaul-visa-program-high-skilled-workers/)

[Kid At WH Easter Egg Roll Photobombs CNN Broadcast — Appears To Yell ‘Fake News’ [VIDEO]](http://dailycaller.com/2017/04/17/kid-at-wh-easter-egg-roll-photobombs-cnn-broadcast-appears-to-yell-fake-news-video/#ixzz4eZQ6o5ka)

^And none of that is even from Breitbart.

It’s not even a matter of “fake news” these days. It’s just two completely different sets of news, with different spin, different emphasis, and different headline writing. The ONLY reason I know this stuff is out there is because my father Shares shit like this on Facebook. If it weren’t for him, I would never, ever see it. And it paints Trump in a very different light than the sources I read.

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**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/41-approval-rating/784664/26 "2017-04-18T04:26:26Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> And trending up.
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> constitution). In the last month, things have only gotten worse, and yet his approval rating is _up_.

There is no statistically significant difference between these two polls.

Margin of error on each approval rating itself is ± 3%. The margin of error for the difference between the polls is 1.41\*3 ([see paragraph three.](https://abcnews.go.com/images/PollingUnit/MOEFranklin.pdf)) That’s ±4.23%.

The thread has been overcome by events…in this case the event was the development of pretty basic statistics.

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/41-approval-rating/784664/27 "2017-04-18T04:27:32Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> “I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose voters.” - Trump
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> I don’t think this is 100% true, but more than 50% of his voters would certainly stick by him even if he murdered someone in broad daylight.

I think the person he is shooting is Malala, only Malala is America’s future, and she won’t get to go to school after this. It is going to be Alternative Facts for Malala-America.

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**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/41-approval-rating/784664/28 "2017-04-18T05:47:13Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Where’s mine? It’s not a participation trophy unless _everyone_ gets one.

> [@mikecurtis](#):
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> you have to _participate_. you dont get a trophy for just watching. did you start a trump thread?
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> mc

Got it in one. You actually have to be the OP of a Trump thread that is Mundane and Pointless. Because hey… Trump!!

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/41-approval-rating/784664/29 "2017-04-18T06:14:31Z")

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Tell us who dragged you in here, and we’ll have him thrashed.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/41-approval-rating/784664/30 "2017-04-18T14:06:22Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> From all reports he ran a successful Easter Egg roll. So there’s that.

Nope. [Obama’s staff ran a successful Easter egg roll](http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/17/politics/white-house-easter-egg-roll/):

“With the White House Easter Egg Roll approaching, and just a skeleton crew in the East Wing staffing roster, volunteers were needed, stat. **Answering the all-hands-on-deck call this weekend were more than 400 registered volunteers, many of them locals, according to a staffer familiar with the plans.** ”

“According to a source who participated in the preparation the weekend, **the volunteers – many holdovers from years’ past and former administrations** – arrived at 10 a.m. ET, working alongside Visitors Office and Social Office staffers. Truckloads of donated products were unpacked, grouped and placed into their designated spots, said one volunteer team leader. The items included arts and crafts supplies, as well as non-perishable foods. And yes, the source confirmed, there were also Peeps.”

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**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/41-approval-rating/784664/31 "2017-04-18T16:14:11Z")

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> [@WhyNot](#):
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> It’s just two completely different sets of news, with different spin, different emphasis, and different headline writing. The ONLY reason I know this stuff is out there is because my father Shares shit like this on Facebook. If it weren’t for him, I would never, ever see it. And it paints Trump in a very different light than the sources I read.

[Blue Feed, Red Feed: See Liberal Facebook and Conservative Facebook, Side by Side](http://graphics.wsj.com/blue-feed-red-feed/#/president-trump)

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/41-approval-rating/784664/32 "2017-04-18T16:30:20Z")

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> [@BeepKillBeep](#):
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> I think it is mainly up due to recent military action. For some reason, Americans seem to approve of military action no matter what. They could carpet bomb a neighborhood to kill a cat that is being noisy and people would approve because explosions and guns. U.S.A! U.S.A! U.S.A!

As others have pointed out, Trumps approval has been, (thankfully) more or less flat since he started dropping bombs. The most recent increase in his approval came around the first week of April and was probably caused by the confirmation of Gorsuch. Before that his biggest bump was the state of the union address. Bsically he gets a bump when he manages to do something that normal presidents would take for granted.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2017, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/41-approval-rating/784664/33 "2017-04-18T23:21:21Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> So who the fuck are these people who are satisfied with Trump’s performance? And what the fuck is wrong with them?

The ones who, like a sad number of reporters, got all moist down below when he sent those missiles into Syria.

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> How the fuck do you reach this apparently 41% of the goddamn country? What’s it gonna fucking take? Nuclear fucking war?!

No, they’ll love that - as long as some Bad Guys Over There get it too.

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2017, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/41-approval-rating/784664/34 "2017-04-19T00:28:33Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> He has already learned that trade and North Korea and healthcare are complicated issues that require nuanced answers. Look at that progress!

Probably more like, “Huh. The sledgehammer didn’t work. Umm… Here-- _you_ guys fix it. I’ve got more important, secret stuff to do over here…”

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2017, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/41-approval-rating/784664/35 "2017-04-19T05:59:23Z")

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> [@Projammer](#):
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> Yay. Another Trump thread. Here’s your participation trophy.

3 threads on dumb liberals is way the fuck too much and need to be shut down. But thread #2763 about how Trump is deh Ebil is cool.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2017, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/41-approval-rating/784664/36 "2017-04-19T06:00:21Z")

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> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> 3 threads on dumb liberals is way the fuck too much and need to be shut down. But thread #2763 about how Trump is deh Ebil is cool.

Lol, I thought I was the only one who noticed that.

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**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2017, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/41-approval-rating/784664/37 "2017-04-19T08:42:51Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> America First is out

What does America First even mean, if it’s not simply pandering to xenophobes and cynics, which he’s done with flying colors?  
Presumably no-one would argue America First means take no interest in what’s going on in the rest of the world because, you know, America is in the world.

> [@](#):
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> China is apparently no longer a currency manipulator

I think you can file this under “Who knew \_\_\_\_ was so complicated?”  
Contrary to what is reported in the US media, it’s debatable whether China’s currency is being held artificially low, and equally debatable whether a low yuan would be in China’s best interest.  
Or put it this way: If Trump’s promise was to bring about a world where the yuan is not held artificially low, then Trump finding out that it already isn’t, is arguably a successful completion of that goal. U.S.A.! U.S.A.!

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2017, 10:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/41-approval-rating/784664/38 "2017-04-19T10:14:40Z")

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> [@Mijin](#):
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> What does America First even mean, if it’s not simply pandering to xenophobes and cynics, which he’s done with flying colors?  
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The racists, xenophobes, and cynics were Trump supporters smart enough to vote for Trump. The Trump supporters who deny such labels were the voters too stupid not to vote for him.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2017, 10:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/41-approval-rating/784664/39 "2017-04-19T10:49:08Z")

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> [@Projammer](#):
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> Got it in one. You actually have to be the OP of a Trump thread that is Mundane and Pointless. Because hey… Trump!!

There’s nothing mundane about the subject of this thread, though. This is the “normalization” people were warning about earlier. There’s nothing normal about any of this.

The question here is sincere. Why do people keep supporting a guy who won’t keep his promises, and shows at every step that he is both evil and incompetent? Why did they even approve of someone who goes so fundamentally against the morals our society claims to espouse?

Yes, there’s a bit of venting, but that’s also useful. If I couldn’t express my anger about all this online, I would blow up at people in my real life.

If you want mundane and pointless, try thread where people make fun of how Trump looks or something. This one is neither.

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/41-approval-rating/784664/40 "2017-04-20T14:12:56Z")

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> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> 3 threads on dumb liberals is way the fuck too much and need to be shut down. But thread #2763 about how Trump is deh Ebil is cool.

But there is a reason for that. Consider Ann Coulter’s recent article, [We Want The “President Of America” Back—Not “The President Of The World](http://www.vdare.com/articles/ann-coulter-we-want-the-president-of-america-back-not-the-president-of-the-world). She actually makes a good point, but look at how she talks about the left:

> [@](#):
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> Was America strengthened by the Iraq War? The apparently never-ending Afghanistan War? Vietnam? This is how great powers die, which is exactly what the left wants.

As always, the left is demonized in a bare-assertion, straw man kind of way. No content, just sneer. With Trump, there is always something new to criticize. Maybe you disagree with those criticisms, maybe you think America should be turned into a country for white Christians, fleeced by billionaires, and that’s your fair opinion. At least there is something to disagree with.

I realize this is just one example. If you require more, just wait for yours and octopus’ next posts.

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