# 41% of Americans support Syrian immigration

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/41-of-americans-support-syrian-immigration/738009>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [November 19, 2015, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/41-of-americans-support-syrian-immigration/738009 "2015-11-19T20:16:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2015, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/41-of-americans-support-syrian-immigration/738009/41 "2015-11-20T01:30:26Z")

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> [@Renaissance\_Man](#):
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> Syrian terrorists have wantonly murdered on several continents, and 41% of Americans are so stupid that they would welcome Syrians?

ISIS thanks you for your support.

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**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2015, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/41-of-americans-support-syrian-immigration/738009/42 "2015-11-20T01:37:41Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> \*Give me your tired, your poor,  
> Your huddled masses, yearning to breath free,  
> The wretched refuse of your teeming shore,  
> Send these, the homeless, tempest tost to me,  
> I lift my lamp beside the golden door. \*

A poem on a French statue does not inform American policy or attitudes. Reciting the poem at conservatives and nativists does not hurt them like quoting the Bible to a demon. Stakes might work.

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**Author:** ![Renaissance\_Man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a9adbd/32.png) [@Renaissance\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Renaissance_Man)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2015, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/41-of-americans-support-syrian-immigration/738009/43 "2015-11-20T01:38:40Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Anyway, when one is reduced to quoting idiotic analogies first posted here by **Clothahump** , one is not doing so well with the argument thing. IMHO.

“Idiotic analogies” are in the eye of the beholder. You are not doing so well with the grammar thing. Nice to see the Dope’s Welcoming Committee pile on top of me so fast and so hard.

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**Author:** ![Renaissance\_Man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a9adbd/32.png) [@Renaissance\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Renaissance_Man)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2015, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/41-of-americans-support-syrian-immigration/738009/44 "2015-11-20T01:42:11Z")

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> [@ddsun](#):
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> I strongly suspect this belongs in the Pit. It’s certainly less amusing here…
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> Thanks to this thread I have eaten 2 “fun” sized bags of m&ms. Are we sure this wasn’t used on Fox and Fiends recently?
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> OP - I support allowing Syrian immigration because immigration is a core value of American culture. “My ancestors had their shot, so fuck everybody else” is not actually a compelling reason to stop.

Your vulgarity is a violation of the terms you pledged to uphold. Shame on you.  
Is there anyone here with an ounce of common sense besides me, or do you all support the creation of a Muslim theocracy here in America as well?

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2015, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/41-of-americans-support-syrian-immigration/738009/45 "2015-11-20T01:45:56Z")

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> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#):
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> Renaissance Man, welcome to the SDMB. I hope you enjoy your stay and hang out here for a long while.
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> Note, however, that insulting other posters is not allowed. I’d appreciate it if you’d refrain from doing so in the future.
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> Again, enjoy your stay and welcome.
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> PS - This would do better in Great Debates. I’ll move it there for you.

H! I thought he was calling Obama the Muslim Communist. I didn’t even realize he was referring to me. Oops.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2015, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/41-of-americans-support-syrian-immigration/738009/46 "2015-11-20T01:49:17Z")

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> [@Renaissance\_Man](#):
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> Your vulgarity is a violation of the terms you pledged to uphold. Shame on you.  
> Is there anyone here with an ounce of common sense besides me, or do you all support the creation of a Muslim theocracy here in America as well?

I would worry more about the Christian theocracy the GOP is pushing for.

Do you really believe 20,000/31,000/however many is claimed ISIS fighters could actually take over the entire U.S?

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**Author:** ![Nema98](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d2c977/32.png) [@Nema98](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nema98)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2015, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/41-of-americans-support-syrian-immigration/738009/47 "2015-11-20T01:53:46Z")

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> [@Renaissance\_Man](#):
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> “Idiotic analogies” are in the eye of the beholder. You are not doing so well with the grammar thing. Nice to see the Dope’s Welcoming Committee pile on top of me so fast and so hard.

Nothing wrong with your opinion and views but don’t insult anyone. Feel free to cite sources to back up your claim. Many people support your views.

I did not mean to pile on top of you and I wish you stay here a long time. If you every do want to bash someone and insult, whether another member or a situation or a person like Obama, the BBQ Pit is the place to go.

Thanks.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2015, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/41-of-americans-support-syrian-immigration/738009/48 "2015-11-20T02:17:24Z")

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> [@Renaissance\_Man](#):
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> Your vulgarity is a violation of the terms you pledged to uphold. Shame on you.  
> Is there anyone here with an ounce of common sense besides me, or do you all support the creation of a Muslim theocracy here in America as well?

I said I supported Syrian immigration. There’s a galactic distance between that and creating a Muslim theocracy here. I have as little support for that as I do for a Christian one, or Hindu, or Zoroastotrian. In short, I do not support theocracies.

> [@Anaamika](#):
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> H! I thought he was calling Obama the Muslim Communist. I didn’t even realize he was referring to me. Oops.

I thought he was talking about Obama too. I thought he got awfully, ER, snarky, awfully fast, but I didn’t read it as directed at you.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2015, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/41-of-americans-support-syrian-immigration/738009/49 "2015-11-20T02:51:36Z")

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Of course I support letting Syrian refugees in! Didn’t you know that there are Syrian terrorists killing people? If we’re not even going to let in people fleeing from murderous terrorists, whom are we going to let in?

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2015, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/41-of-americans-support-syrian-immigration/738009/50 "2015-11-20T02:57:53Z")

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> [@marshmallow](#):
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> A poem on a French statue does not inform American policy or attitudes. Reciting the poem at conservatives and nativists does not hurt them like quoting the Bible to a demon. Stakes might work.

Good point.

TO THE KINDLING PILE!

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2015, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/41-of-americans-support-syrian-immigration/738009/51 "2015-11-20T02:58:26Z")

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> [@Renaissance\_Man](#):
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> “Idiotic analogies” are in the eye of the beholder. You are not doing so well with the grammar thing. Nice to see the Dope’s Welcoming Committee pile on top of me so fast and so hard.

Oh, please; you’re getting exactly the sort of attention you intended. Now why are you so much more worried about terrorism than the other risks you are exposed to, and have a much greater chance of dying from, in American life?

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2015, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/41-of-americans-support-syrian-immigration/738009/52 "2015-11-20T03:14:32Z")

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> [@Renaissance\_Man](#):
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> Is there anyone here with an ounce of common sense besides me…

This may be the funniest thing I’ve read all month.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2015, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/41-of-americans-support-syrian-immigration/738009/53 "2015-11-20T03:52:43Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Oh, please; you’re getting exactly the sort of attention you intended. Now why are you so much more worried about terrorism than the other risks you are exposed to, and have a much greater chance of dying from, in American life?

Yeah, like Global Warming!!

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**Author:** ![Renaissance\_Man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a9adbd/32.png) [@Renaissance\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Renaissance_Man)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2015, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/41-of-americans-support-syrian-immigration/738009/54 "2015-11-20T04:49:43Z")

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> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#):
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> Renaissance Man, welcome to the SDMB. I hope you enjoy your stay and hang out here for a long while.
> 
> Note, however, that insulting other posters is not allowed. I’d appreciate it if you’d refrain from doing so in the future.
> 
> Again, enjoy your stay and welcome.

Dopes here are intolerant and not welcoming in the least. They have repeatedly attacked and belittled me. You have not addressed a single one of them that I can see, including the vulgar profanities by one of your regulars.

Why don’t you tell your regulars to refrain from petty attacks en masse. Is there nobody who grasps the fact that 59% of Americans, and 30 governors do not support Obama’s cockamamy immigration plot. This is the same guy who illegally ordered authorities NOT to deport illegal aliens.

Insane.

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**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2015, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/41-of-americans-support-syrian-immigration/738009/55 "2015-11-20T05:09:09Z")

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> [@Renaissance\_Man](#):
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> Dopes here are intolerant and not welcoming in the least.

Jeezus, dude- could you give us a bit more warning before you peg the irony meter that hard next time? The needle broke off, shot across the room, winged the dog, and buried itself in the wall.

Ya coulda killed someone!

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2015, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/41-of-americans-support-syrian-immigration/738009/56 "2015-11-20T05:14:03Z")

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Guy says we’re not welcoming enough. Fair enough. Someone fetch the goat.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2015, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/41-of-americans-support-syrian-immigration/738009/57 "2015-11-20T05:29:51Z")

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> [@Renaissance\_Man](#):
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> This is a war, and you leftists have smugly surrendered, just as Neville Chamberlain did.

You should take the time to actually read some history, you might learn something.

> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Guy says we’re not welcoming enough. Fair enough. Someone fetch the goat.

I already hid the cookies. ☹

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**Author:** ![sweepkick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@sweepkick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sweepkick)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2015, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/41-of-americans-support-syrian-immigration/738009/58 "2015-11-20T05:40:12Z")

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> [@Renaissance\_Man](#):
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> You have not addressed a single one of them that I can see, including the vulgar profanities by one of your regulars.

You’ve only just joined yet you’re already familiar with who the regulars are?

I’m impressed with the dedication and effort you’ve put into this rant.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2015, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/41-of-americans-support-syrian-immigration/738009/59 "2015-11-20T05:46:52Z")

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Anyone got a Turing test in their pocket?

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2015, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/41-of-americans-support-syrian-immigration/738009/60 "2015-11-20T05:48:42Z")

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> [@Renaissance\_Man](#):
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> This is the same guy who illegally ordered authorities NOT to deport illegal aliens.
> 
> Insane.

Not correct either.

[http://blogs.reuters.com/data-dive/2015/02/25/tracking-obamas-deportation-numbers/](http://blogs.reuters.com/data-dive/2015/02/25/tracking-obamas-deportation-numbers/)

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> “America is expelling illegal immigrants at nine times the rate of 20 years ago; nearly 2m so far under Barack Obama, easily outpacing any previous president,” the Economist wrote in February 2014. “Border patrol agents no longer just patrol the border; they scour the country for illegals to eject. The deportation machine costs more than all other areas of federal criminal law-enforcement combined.”
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> Critics may declare President Obama soft on immigration, but as this Reuters graphic shows, according to Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) data the Department of Homeland Security deported 414,481 people in fiscal year 2014, down from 438,421 the year before. Each year of the Obama administration has seen more deportations than any preceding president; the pre-Obama high of 358,886 removals in FY2008 came during President George W. Bush’s last full fiscal year in office.

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