# 5/1/11 Law and Order Criminal Intent **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 2, 2011, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/5-1-11-law-and-order-criminal-intent/580523 "2011-05-02T22:21:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Surly\_Chick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Surly\_Chick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Surly_Chick)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/5-1-11-law-and-order-criminal-intent/580523/1 "2011-05-02T22:21:31Z")
So last season ended with Goren being fired and Eames resigning and this season they’re back with no mention of it. Did I miss something somewhere? ---
**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/5-1-11-law-and-order-criminal-intent/580523/2 "2011-05-02T23:59:42Z")
Details are still forthcoming. I like how the new captain was the crook from two previous episodes, a Wall Street Ponzi schemer and a suburban hit man who used a fake crematorium. ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2011, 9:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/5-1-11-law-and-order-criminal-intent/580523/3 "2011-05-03T09:15:09Z")
The explanation for the return comes later in the season, starting in episode 3. A condition of Goren’s return is mandatory psychiatric consults with the police shrink played by Julia Ormond ---
**Author:** ![Surly\_Chick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Surly\_Chick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Surly_Chick)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2011, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/5-1-11-law-and-order-criminal-intent/580523/4 "2011-05-03T12:23:25Z")
That’s annoying. I like things explained immediately! ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim_r.mortiss/32/142_2.png) [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_R.Mortiss)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2011, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/5-1-11-law-and-order-criminal-intent/580523/5 "2011-05-03T14:44:47Z")
Whatever happened to Jeff Goldblum? I only started watching the show for him, and now he appears to be gone without a trace. ---
**Author:** ![Surly\_Chick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Surly\_Chick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Surly_Chick)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2011, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/5-1-11-law-and-order-criminal-intent/580523/6 "2011-05-03T15:23:03Z")
> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#): > > Whatever happened to Jeff Goldblum? I only started watching the show for him, and now he appears to be gone without a trace. Perhaps that will be explained in episode three also. 😉 I miss him too. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2011, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/5-1-11-law-and-order-criminal-intent/580523/7 "2011-05-03T16:08:59Z")
> [@Surly\_Chick](#): > > So last season ended with Goren being fired and Eames resigning and this season they’re back with no mention of it. Did I miss something somewhere? Last season BEGAN with Goren & Eames leaving the force; the rest of the season was Nichols & his partner. Ten bucks says they never explain it. The way Goren & Eames left would seem to make it impossible for them to return to the NYPD, and I can’t imagine any explanation being believable. I’ve decided to believe that this sesaon is taking place in an alternate universe from last season, in which it was Nichols who went off the rails over their captain’s death (they were old friends, after all) rather than Goren. ---
**Author:** ![Surly\_Chick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Surly\_Chick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Surly_Chick)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2011, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/5-1-11-law-and-order-criminal-intent/580523/8 "2011-05-03T16:43:46Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > Last season BEGAN with Goren & Eames leaving the force; the rest of the season was Nichols & his partner. You’re just being testy because I beat you in the obit thread… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim_r.mortiss/32/142_2.png) [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_R.Mortiss)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2011, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/5-1-11-law-and-order-criminal-intent/580523/9 "2011-05-03T19:52:48Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > Last season BEGAN with Goren & Eames leaving the force; the rest of the season was Nichols & his partner. > > Ten bucks says they never explain it. The way Goren & Eames left would seem to make it impossible for them to return to the NYPD, and I can’t imagine any explanation being believable. I’ve decided to believe that this sesaon is taking place in an alternate universe from last season, in which it was Nichols who went off the rails over their captain’s death (they were old friends, after all) rather than Goren. Maybe last season was all a dream by Bob Newhart. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2011, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/5-1-11-law-and-order-criminal-intent/580523/10 "2011-05-03T21:54:33Z")
> [@Surly\_Chick](#): > > You’re just being testy because I beat you in the obit thread… 😃 Don’t be insane. Rhymers do not get testy, and I have already arranged my revenge anyway. ---
**Author:** ![stargazer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb8c5e/32.png) [@stargazer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stargazer)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2011, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/5-1-11-law-and-order-criminal-intent/580523/11 "2011-05-03T22:15:48Z")
> [@Krokodil](#): > > Details are still forthcoming. I like how the new captain was the crook from two previous episodes, a Wall Street Ponzi schemer and a suburban hit man who used a fake crematorium. He was also a bad guy in a couple of the original L&O episodes, and one of them was a memorable enough [performance](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0629448/) (as a really, really overbearing and domineering husband/father/baaaaad guy) that I’m having a hard time buying him as the captain. I liked how Goren & Eames magically got their old desks back, though. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2011, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/5-1-11-law-and-order-criminal-intent/580523/12 "2011-05-03T22:19:40Z")
> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#): > > Maybe last season was all a dream by Bob Newhart. Fool of a 5-0! You mean [Tommy Westphall](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_One_%28St._Elsewhere_episode%29).